Need a Q9650 Overclock Guide On G31M-S2L

[sneekypeet]

Please be patient with me, im sure i dont know how to do it, but looking at a thread my quoting doesn't seem to be different from the rest of the people here, could you inform me a little better what it is exactly im doing wrong? thanks.

I have been merging your posts this whole time If you want to quote just one member, use the reply button. If you want to quote multiple people use multi quote button in each post you wish to reply to and a box appears at the bottom of the page which says insert quotes. Then reply to them all at once.

 

[Gintaras]

That is a Question that's hard to answer!

Over Time and reading many threads ( over many subjects ) you will be able to Gauge your own level of trust with many Posters here.

Many Give GOOD VALUABLE ADVICE ( and often their advice/suggestions are valadated by others )
some just regurgitate the advice of others ( Can Be usefull confirmation )
Others just give no information of use ( you ignore Them where possible)

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But i kind of find it funny that there is not a professional who could prove someone wrong with facts. facts personally i would not understand but judging by other replies i could get a grasp of who is right.

I have been merging your posts this whole time If you want to quote just one member, use the reply button. If you want to quote multiple people use multi quote button in each post you wish to reply to and a box appears at the bottom of the page which says insert quotes. Then reply to them all at once.

Thanks i understood now.

 

[KainXS]

im using CPUID's CPU-Z and HWMonitor and just downloaded Prime95.
In the bios i haven't saved and loaded the overclock, i just checked the changes the bios shows according to your suggestion and loaded the defaults again i did not apply the overclock and loaded windows and frankly im afraid to do this for the same reason mentions above.

i have reached 3.4 by picking a 400 number for frequency and fine clock to 0.5 ( i dont know what im doing, so i was putting different numbers until i got the 3.4 Ghz result.

I hate to say it but if you don't know what you are doing the you need to start learning what you are doing. There are tons of sites online to learn how to start overclocking and alot of it comes from personal experience, you don't need to be a professional(does this even exist really in overclocking) to overclock.

Heres a video from youtube that might interest you since its about a board similar to yours, you probably should not try it though because of the reasons given above by everyone else but I won't stop you.

 

[Gintaras]

I hate to say it but if you don't know what you are doing the you need to start learning what you are doing. There are tons of sites online to learn how to start overclocking and alot of it comes from personal experience, you don't need to be a professional(does this even exist really in overclocking) to overclock.

Heres a video from youtube that might interest you since its about a board similar to yours, you probably should not try it though because of the reasons given above by everyone else but I won't stop you.

This is the very same video I watched when I thought about overclocking my CPU, I say I don't know what I'm doing mainly because the host frequency (FSB) setting is so complicated to understand since I can put ANY number I want, is there something I should know which exact numbers to set combining with exact specific number of clock speed? etc. From this thread and testing, I already learned and am sure that I should not overclock until I get a proper cooler, that is all. I still haven't got any assurance on other matters relating to my specs or how to combine clock speed with host frequency, pci frequency etc.

 

[Kursah]

This is the very same video I watched when I thought about overclocking my CPU, I say I don't know what I'm doing mainly because the host frequency (FSB) setting is so complicated to understand since I can put ANY number I want, is there something I should know which exact numbers to set combining with exact specific number of clock speed? etc. From this thread and testing, I already learned and am sure that I should not overclock until I get a proper cooler, that is all. I still haven't got any assurance on other matters relating to my specs or how to combine clock speed with host frequency, pci frequency etc.

Well what FSB do you start at 333 for a Q9650 with a 1333FSB correct? Yep.

So to get 1333, it is a "quad pumped" FSB, or 333*4 to get close to 1333 speed. There were some higher-end Core2 CPU's that were 1600 IIRC, so that's where I consider this a free and easy overclock for Core2's on lower FSB speeds. If a board is rated for 1600FSB, then you should be able to OC to 400FSB on a lower-end Core2 if the CPU is capable of it.

First thing to remember is your CPU and RAM are using multipliers and dividers to base their speed off of FSB. So I would set the CPU to the minimum multiplier, iirc that is 6. And set the RAM close to 1:2 divider or whatever keeps you under your RAM's current rated speed, I.E. if you are rated for DDR2 800, then keep it under that speed. Keep these two items de-tuned and let's test your board first.

I would recommend that you start increasing and testing. Increase in steps. I would say go from 333 to 350. If that is stable, go to 375. If stable again, go to 400, which IMHO is the goal here for a simple and clean OC that might just work...but that ol' P31 might not be up to snuff to get it done either.

I would increase NorthBridge (NB) voltage by one or two steps for testing, the more you increase this, it is pretty much overclocking the mainboard so it may need more voltage to achieve the clock speed increase.

Once you know if your board can make the 400-mark, then let's set the RAM to DDR2 800, 1000, 1066 or whatever divider you have to get it close to rated speed.

Once stable confirmed there, increase the CPU multiplier by 1X, run stability tests. If you are stable and temps are okay, increase again and retest. Test all the way to instability/overheating, or to the 9X multiplier that the Q9650 features to achieve an OC to 3.6GHz.

Odds are at 8X+ multipliers you may (or may not) need to increase CPU voltage. Some Core2 CPU's I could actually undervolt and run at a 400FSB for an easy overclock at lower than stock voltage, which kept temps in-line. If your PC crashes/BSOD's during stress testing, increase CPU voltage by one step and repeat. If increasing this doesn't help, increase NB voltage and ensure RAM settings are still stable (use Memtest 86+ for example).

As suggested before, I prefer OCCT for stress/stability testing.

Spend some time researching your hardware. Lookup your CPU, lookup your RAM, lookup your board. See what others have achieved with the board specifically. Review other threads and guides as well, researching is key to overclocking hardware, especially old hardware that isn't common any longer.

Makes me wish I had an old Core2 setup to tinker with again!

 

[biffzinker]

I already learned and am sure that I should not overclock until I get a proper cooler, that is all.

Also a fan blowing on the motherboard VRM up where the 4-pin 12 volt connector that supplies the CPU would help keep the MOSFETs from cooking while your overclocking. I looked up your board yesterday, and noticed no heatsinks on the VRM.

Edit: I've had a Gigabyte AMD Socket 939 board blow a MOSFET from overclocking a past AMD CPU but not providing additional cooling.

 

[KST66]

What a Crap
I´ve the same Board, running C2D e8400, Stepping e0 @4200 MHz.
First: start in your BIOS, and @ the Main Page press "STRG+F1" simiultaniously.
So you switched to the extended BIOS.

Problem: the Board can't switch to more than 342 MHz FSB without setting the PCI-E Speed to more than 100 MHz.
Some People told, if you switch PCI-E to more than 110 MHz, the HDDs (SATA and IDE) will fail.
Never seen that, my PCI-E is @ 145 MHz and FSB is switched to 467 MHz.
With the C2D e8400 i'm with that setting @ 4200 MHz.
CPU runs @ Stock Voltage (+0,005V), RAM (DDR2) runs @ 934 MHz.

My English is not the best, but if you wanna know more about the Board and CPU (QX9650), just post here and you'll get an Answer from me.
I can help you defintely to get the most out of your CPU, i promise.

Greez

Here's the Sys i made with the Gigabyte GA-G31M-S2L @ e8400 (sry, it's in German):

Just if you're interested anymore, post here, and i'll help you

Greez Klaus

Just lil more Info:
I use just the Stock Cooler (good one with copper core), delivered with my e8400.
You have to look:
the CPU-Case is running out of Temp @70 Degrees Celsius (told ya: i'm German) it's about 158 Degrees in Fahrenheit.
The Core of the QX9650 are out @ 100 Degrees Celsius (=212 Degree Fahrenheit)
Normal Worktemperature is at least 149 Degree for the Case and 185 Degrees for the Cores.
At this temperature the CPU will slow down (Throttle), at 203-210 (the Cores) Degrees the PC switch off.
QX9650 is a little "HOT" (130W TDP), so, perhaps look for a better cooler.
But with Stock Cooler arriving 3,33 GHz will be, in normal circumstances, no prob.

If you see in the PIC above, i switched the RAM (@934 DDR2) from Latencies of original 6-6-6-18 to 5-5-5-15.
Not every RAM works with this, i've Middle Class "Hynix" RAMs, they work with it...
Just test it, once more: i'll help you if you want.

Against of all the People say here: the GA-G31M-S2L is a nice Board for OC, just the Northbridge (FSB) sucks out over 470-480 -MHz (No matter if you give +0,1 or 0,2 V more).
You can buy it for about 25-35€, so I love it for that Price !!!

Hehe, while i wrote this Post, my other Computer (Asus P5B-Premium (Intel P965 Chipset) @ Intel C2Quad Q6600 2400@3000 MHz) restarted with no need...
THAT'S OVERCLOCKING !!!

 

[rockit00]

There are a some LGA775 to LGA771 mod people over at Overclock.net who do some mad overclocking and bios modding with their GA-G31's. A good place to start reading.

 

[KST66]

Unbelieveable
Hoho: just bought that today:

http://www.ebay.de/itm/2-Stuck-Inte...468806?hash=item25d8e1d546:g:cjoAAOSw8d5ZQCUe
and
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Lot-of-6-x-L...891499?hash=item23441216ab:g:T68AAOSwLF1YBfwr

Hope they will run between 3,6 and 4,0 GHz

12MB L2 Cache and 80 instead of 105 btw 130 W TDP

 

[EarthDog]

Old thread...

Overclocking a dual core vs a quad is different though. Much less stress pushing a dual than a quad core. The board may overclock, but its not made for it with the weak and un heatsinked vrm area...

 

[KST66]

You have to do an BIOS "Microcode" Update.
Without that, you're not be able to get the "VT-D" Extension with a XEON (necessary for installing win 10 eg.).
The P5B-Premium will work without Probs.
The GA-G31M-S2L is a little bit more tricky...

Overclocking a dual core vs a quad is different though.

Right, for that, the Q6600 is running @3GHz and not, like the e8400, with 4,2GHz.

Next: Q6600 is 1066 (FSB 266MHz), e8400 is 1333 (333MHz FSB)

Next: the Q6600 is 65nM, the e8400 is 45nM, less Heat consumption
VID for Q6600: 1,325V, VID for e8400: 1,275V
Just wondering: the VID for the 8400 is not very good, but it's going for more than 4500MHz, tested @ another Board, limitation is the FSB from the Board (GA-G31M-S2L)
All "Primestable"

If you not believe me: look at "Handy-FAQ.DE"
Look at "KST66"
I were over 6 Years Moderator there, the last two Years i was Administrator at this Forum.
It's the biggest German Handy-Forum.
OK, it's Smartphone, not PC, but I know what I say, believe me.
www.handy-faq.de

 

[Caring1]

......I were over 6 Years Moderator there, the last two Years i was Administrator at this Forum.
......
www.handy-faq.de

Then you should be aware forums have rules, multiple posting is against the rules here, you need to edit your posts.

 

[infrared]

@KST66
Reviving a 6 month old topic might be okay if you can categorically solve a problem, however the OP has already been given some good advice on the basic steps he needs to take. You haven't really added much other than showing off and reeling off a load of random information about hardware that isn't involved in this conversation. Keep it on topic if you're going to try to help, don't confuse the poor guy with info that doesn't relate to him.

Also please learn to edit your posts or multiquote. Double posting isn't allowed, I've merged your posts, the last group of your posts I did was 5 in a row! Here's a guide for editing and multi-quoting, please take a look:

https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...osts-and-use-the-multi-quote-features.234427/.

Anyway, please wait until the OP returns to continue this topic, until then there is nothing to discuss.

I'm locking this thread, @Gintaras , if you'd like me to re-open this for you, send me a PM and I'll do that straight away