Why are some people still saying a 4-thread i5 is good enough with a beefy GPU...

[P4-630]

IMO it's not good enough anymore for gaming, especially for the latest AAA titles, and even some from years ago.
High fps AAA gaming? You can just forget about that with a 4-core i5.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

IMO it's not good enough anymore for gaming, especially for the latest AAA titles, and even some from years ago.
High fps AAA gaming? You can just forget about that with a 4-core i5.

Because the majority of people still game with GPU that are slower than a GTX 1070 and game on a 1080p/60 monitor and don't care if they are getting 40-50fps

 

[P4-630]

Because the majority of people still game with GPU that are slower than a GTX 1070 and game on a 1080p/60 monitor and don't care if they are getting 40-50fps

There are people pairing it with a beefy GPU, you don't buy such GPU for 40-50 fps.

Will RTX 2070 work with my i5 6600 processor?

Hello I've ordered an RTX 2070 and I'm wondering if it will work properly with i5 6600 processor, I've heard that hardware can bottleneck and I'm curious to see if this will happen and what affects this has on gaming, I'm quite new to PC's so any advice would be helpful.

www.techpowerup.com

 

[oxrufiioxo]

There are people pairing it with a beefy GPU, you don't buy such GPU for 40-50 fps.

Will RTX 2070 work with my i5 6600 processor?

Hello I've ordered an RTX 2070 and I'm wondering if it will work properly with i5 6600 processor, I've heard that hardware can bottleneck and I'm curious to see if this will happen and what affects this has on gaming, I'm quite new to PC's so any advice would be helpful.

www.techpowerup.com

Apparently they don't care if their frames tank in modern games.




This is the biggest reason as much as I love Techpowerup's reviews They really need to incorporate 1% lows because any person is going to feel massive drops in frame rates.
At the same time if the person want's to pair a 2070 with a 6600k now and upgrade his cpu later if it isn't up to par I see no issue with it.

 

[trog100]

60 fps used to be the desired norm maybe for most people it still is..

trog

 

[Vayra86]

I guess Í'll just copy paste a link for what I posted elsewhere just now, so we can put that myth to bed.

And no, 60 FPS or not is not all that important here either.

Will RTX 2070 work with my i5 6600 processor?

I'm sorry, but it's you who is wrong here. A bottleneck happens when one component holds another one back (it cannot feed it fast enough). The scenario that you keep referring to is not a bottleneck: today's GPUs simply cannot deliver 144fps in most tiles, period. No CPU bottleneck involved. I...

www.techpowerup.com

Enjoy

 

[Steve-007UK]

I'm perfectly happy with my 4690K overclocked to 4.4ghz and happy playing all my games at 2k 72fps.

Don't care for most of the new so called AAA games because most i have played and they ain't that great to be honest.

 

[Vayra86]

At the same time if the person want's to pair a 2070 with a 6600k now and upgrade his cpu later if it isn't up to par I see no issue with it.

The only 'issue' is that he'd be better off turning it around, because right now the 2070 is wasted performance (30% or more!) while in 1-2 years time, that same performance is cheaper. At the same time, there are fantastic CPU offerings today.

I'm perfectly happy with my 4690K overclocked to 4.4ghz and happy playing all my games at 2k 72fps.

Don't care for most of the new so called AAA games because most i have played and they ain't that great to be honest.

You run an RX480 580...

The key word here is balance. Your rig works fine because it is balanced well. And you avoid the games that give you stutter. Clearly a matter of perception

Just to drive this home...

 

[Deleted member 178884]

I've ran my 1080ti ftw3 on a 6600K @ 4.5 and it was quite fine for the vast majority of games I played at 4k at least - I suppose it might become an issue to use 1080p or 1440p, but honestly they're still viable.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

The only 'issue' is that he'd be better off turning it around, because right now the 2070 is wasted performance (30% or more!) while in 1-2 years time, that same performance is cheaper. At the same time, there are fantastic CPU offerings today.



You run a 480...

I agree he would need to go into it knowing he needs a better cpu... a 1660 super is a much better fit otherwise.

I didn't chime in on that thread because I knew it would just become a pissing contest over whether quad cores without hyperthreading where still viable. Also pretty sure the OP never even responded to any of the advice.

 

[Steve-007UK]

Forgot to update my specs but i have an RX580 now got it very cheap only payed £70 for it and i also have an RTX 2070 but thats for a new build next year

 

[Vayra86]

Forgot to update my specs but i have an RX580 now got it very cheap only payed £70 for it and i also have an RTX 2070 but thats for a new build next year

Same difference - see above

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Forgot to update my specs but i have an RX580 now got it very cheap only payed £70 for it and i also have an RTX 2070 but thats for a new build next year

Hopefully you don't go with another quad core....

 

[Steve-007UK]

Nah i will get a dual core Joking aside i'm planning on getting a 3900x for the next build.

 

[Bones]

I've ran my 1080ti ftw3 on a 6600K @ 4.5 and it was quite fine for the vast majority of games I played at 4k at least - I suppose it might become an issue to use 1080p or 1440p, but honestly they're still viable.

This is probrably the root of it.
As long as it's giving the performance the individual wants/expects it's all good. That naturally will vary between users - Some don't mind it, others simply must have the max framerates possible.

I'm currently running a GTX 970 in my 2700x build and it's doing great, had one of my Radeon VII's in and was doing well with that too but popped this card in to be sure it was still in working shape.
So far it's been running well.
I'm also running a 4K monitor and that does make a bit of difference in how things look - Sometimes all the little things will add up to a huge amount of difference.

 

[lexluthermiester]

IMO it's not good enough anymore for gaming, especially for the latest AAA titles, and even some from years ago.
High fps AAA gaming? You can just forget about that with a 4-core i5.

Please review. Seems good enough to me.
EDIT
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Found another for consideration;

 

[8BitZ80]

High fps AAA gaming? You can just forget about that with a 4-core i5.

A quad core Core i5 can't do high FPS AAA gaming.
A Corolla can't be competitive at racetrack events.
So what.

 

[Bones]

A quad core Core i5 can't do high FPS AAA gaming.
A Corolla can't be competitive at racetrack events.
So what.

A stock Corolla can't be competitive unless the competiton is all stock Corollas.
If it's a modified Corolla it's a different story based on degree of modification, quality of work done, parts used to modify the vehicle AND what shows up for it to go up against...... And how one's luck runs that day.

What a system is comprised of does determine alot of what you get, how it's tweaked is another thing and exactly what it's running is yet another factor - It all adds up to an end.
However, as long as the user is happy with what's going on that's the most important thing to worry about from any perspective - My likes do not determine another's and whether or not it's working "Good Enough" for me only applies to me and my rig.

 

[Tomgang]

We dont need Quad core or for that matter dual core. Single core CPU is all what we need games

More seriously, i agreed. Going Quad-core these days for gaming and if only 4 threads as well. It´s a dead end to walk down the path to. 4 cores/8 threads or just 8 threads is the bare minimum today. Triple AAA title these days uses past 8 threads and has moved on to 12 threads these days. For an optimum gaming exsperience today i all ways tell people to get a CPU with at least 12 threads like the Ryzen 3600 or maybe a used I7 8700K. I have seen to many youtube video that shows a CPU like a I7 9700K still can peak at 100 % load on all 8 cores/threads and that means at that moment the CPU becomes the bottleneck. Buying a 4 core cpu today and specially with out HT/SMT is so not the right thing to do.

You can just take me for an instance. I moved away from my I7 920 to at I7 980X as games wanted more than 8 threads and i cut see a difference switching cpu even with these old chips. FPS with 980X dit not become much higher, but minimum FPS became much more stable hence gave a better gamings exsperince as i no longer had stutter/lag spikes that i had with I7 920.

 

[Voluman]

Because, it is. Probably. Most 'normal' people for 'normal usage' it is enough. And habits, past time sake, development circuitstandings.
But when i playing on lan with my nephew (i5 with 8gb vs i7 with 16gb) the i7 already loaded and in game while i5 is still loading screen. But if i dont see it directly, probably would be 'okay' even with i5 because the game experience its close the same.

 

[er557]

there's more to gaming smoothness than fps, it depends on the windows scheduler, the amount of ram you have, the more the better, loading times will be better, and of course the other things windows does while you game, especially that today's games are multi core aware and can be very taxing on the cpu with their AI and what not, specifically so in high referesh monitors. So the trend is indeed to have more cores, with as fast mhz as possible. But what do I know, I game @72 threads....

 

[dirtyferret]

IMO it's not good enough anymore for gaming, especially for the latest AAA titles, and even some from years ago.
High fps AAA gaming? You can just forget about that with a 4-core i5.

That's your opinion but looking at benchmarks for virtually all non-cowboy AAA 2019 games I see quad cores are still capable of producing playable results at 1080p 60fps.

 

[BrainMuncher]

Please review. Seems good enough to me.

9400F and 8400 are both 6 cores, that's 50% more cores

 

[dirtyferret]

9400F and 8400 are both 6 cores, that's 50% more cores

I think his point was more the i5 quads being compared to the i5 hexa

 

[Vario]

I think enthusiast forums lose track of how the average gamer operates, for them the joy is in playing the game and they don't upgrade until the games don't run well at all. Buy a $1000 system, play it for 8 years, repeat. Sometimes these guys will buy a high end GPU mid way through.
Personally I am on something of a 4-5 year upgrade cycle.
You can go a long ways before it barely runs. I know a guy running a Sandy Bridge i7 laptop with Intel integrated graphics playing GTA V, same guy is hoping to run RDR2 on it, maybe its possible with lowest settings, who knows.