EA & Bungie banning Linux Gamers in Battlefield V & Destiny 2

[Deleted member 158293]

Just a heads up to Linux gamers, EA & Bungie are permanently banning accounts of Gamers playing through Wine. No fix so far, and seemingly none planned.

Game carefully:

https://itsfoss.com/ea-banning-linux-gamers/

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I knew they were doing so on Destiny 2. I’m not sure if they are just paranoid about anti-cheat or what, but Bungie ain’t messin around.

 

[R-T-B]

It's because wine uses nonstandard DirectX libraries. Anticheat doesn't and can't understand this.

 

[candle_86]

Well that's what they should be doing, it's not a supported platform

 

[GoldenX]

They could just integrate proton and make it work on Linux, that's what was working until now. But no, that's too hard, just kick them out.

 

[candle_86]

They could just integrate proton and make it work on Linux, that's what was working until now. But no, that's too hard, just kick them out.

Yes let's waste resources on .05% of the playerbase

 

[lexluthermiester]

Well that's what they should be doing, it's not a supported platform

Your opinion. Kinda flawed really. Banning paying players for nothing more than the choice of OS? Little more than a narrowminded punk move.

The article is correct. The publisher needs to properly address the issue and reverse the bans.

 

[eidairaman1]

Yes let's waste resources on .05% of the playerbase

Ya know perhaps people dislike W10, what are they to do?

Your opinion. Kinda flawed really. Banning paying players for nothing more than the choice of OS? Little more than a narrowminded punk move.

The article is correct. The publisher need to properly address the issue and reverse the bans.

I see them boycotted and antitrust suit coming, no one should be forced to use 10

 

[GoldenX]

Yes let's waste resources on .05% of the playerbase

With that mentality, the gaming platforms will never improve.

There's not even any money to waste on, other people already made the work.

 

[candle_86]

With that mentality, the gaming platforms will never improve.

There's not even any money to waste on, other people already made the work.

Except the anti cheat systems are not tested nor any possible bugs from a poor emulation of directX. The publishers don't support the platform and it is their choice, honestly the Linux community on x86 is so small they wouldn't see a return on investment supporting Linux. It's a smart business move.

Ya know perhaps people dislike W10, what are they to do?



I see them boycotted and antitrust suit coming, no one should be forced to use 10

You arnt forced, you read the system requirements and the Eula. No one held a gun to anyone's head and said you must buy windows 10 and play our game.

 

[eidairaman1]

Except the anti cheat systems are not tested nor any possible bugs from a poor emulation of directX. The publishers don't support the platform and it is their choice, honestly the Linux community on x86 is so small they wouldn't see a return on investment supporting Linux. It's a smart business move.



You arnt forced, you read the system requirements and the Eula. No one held a gun to anyone's head and said you must buy windows 10 and play our game.

However it is growing.

 

[candle_86]

With that mentality, the gaming platforms will never improve.

There's not even any money to waste on, other people already made the work.

There is, they have to test it for any bugs and convert the game engine to Vulcan or opengl, that takes time and money. It's the same reason alot of games don't get mad releases.

However it is growing.

Not by a statistically significant margin. Less people use Linux than use windows 98.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Not by a statistically significant margin. Less people use Linux than use windows 98.

Citation needed. That's a very bold claim indeed. Please provide evidence to support that claim.

 

[king of swag187]

Thank god

 

[dorsetknob]

Not by a statistically significant margin. Less people use Linux than use windows 98.

Hey don't malign win 98 (i have only just upgraded to ME)

 

[R-T-B]

Yes let's waste resources on .05% of the playerbase

Proton is a supported valve product, so I'm going out on a limb and betting it's far more than .05%.

Seriously, signing the wine dlls and having anticheat know about this is the only sensible answer.

Except the anti cheat systems are not tested nor any possible bugs from a poor emulation of directX.

That's not the issue at all. The issue is cheats are possible via nonsigned directx libraries.

Not by a statistically significant margin. Less people use Linux than use windows 98.

Ok, someones factbook is stuck in the 90s...

 

[remixedcat]

My hubby games with linux mint xfce. Most work fine.. already boycott ea so this is easy.

And most of this anti cheat shit has malware and phones home to china... one was sending too much personal info to dodgy ppl. Keylogger

 

[R-T-B]

And most of this anti cheat shit has malware and phones home to china... one was sending too much personal info to dodgy ppl. Keylogger

I won't dispute dodgy ones exist but there are also valid ones and my point above was any anticheat that is worth it's salt must check it's platform for integrity.

 

[GoldenX]

There is, they have to test it for any bugs and convert the game engine to Vulcan or opengl, that takes time and money. It's the same reason alot of games don't get mad releases.

Please read how wine and dxvk work.

 

[Vya Domus]

With that mentality, the gaming platforms will never improve.

I am not exactly sure games running on Linux are somehow improved versus the ones on Windows.

 

[Readlight]

Evil American corporation.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Thank god

You're Welcome.

Evil American corporation.

Evil European Corporation.

 

[londiste]

Seriously, signing the wine dlls and having anticheat know about this is the only sensible answer.
That's not the issue at all. The issue is cheats are possible via nonsigned directx libraries.

This. Anticheat needs a controlled environment to be effective. Unknown libraries are not controlled and known, making cheats possible.

It is not about Linux or EA/Bungie being evil, it is all about anti-cheat which is a very-very important part of online games these days. There has been a lot of criticism towards both and specifically around Battlefield V and Destiny 2 about anti-cheat not being good enough.

The libraries WINE/Proton use, are these a fixed set? The argument against supporting Linux (or more precisely, support for specific versions of WINE/Proton) in the anti-cheat solutions has merit as it is a lot of work - probably even more work than supporting Windows - for a small and fragmented (in terms of OS and environment) playerbase.

 

[candle_86]

This. Anticheat needs a controlled environment to be effective. Unknown libraries are not controlled and known, making cheats possible.

It is not about Linux or EA/Bungie being evil, it is all about anti-cheat which is a very-very important part of online games these days. There has been a lot of criticism towards both and specifically around Battlefield V and Destiny 2 about anti-cheat not being good enough.

The libraries WINE/Proton use, are these a fixed set? The argument against supporting Linux (or more precisely, support for specific versions of WINE/Proton) in the anti-cheat solutions has merit as it is a lot of work - probably even more work than supporting Windows - for a small and fragmented (in terms of OS and environment) playerbase.

The Linux cult thinks it's a few minutes work

 

[dirtyferret]

Your opinion. Kinda flawed really. Banning paying players for nothing more than the choice of OS? Little more than a narrowminded punk move.

The article is correct. The publisher needs to properly address the issue and reverse the bans.

Out of curiosity did EA and/or Bungie come out with a clear statement at launch of either supporting Linux or not?