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Is it worth upgrading i7 4790 now?

Your advise?

  • Buy R5 3500X

    Votes: 8 33.3%

  • Wait DDR5 systems

    Votes: 16 66.7%
  • Total voters
    24
Ibotibo01

Ibotibo01

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I have i7 4790 with H81M-P33 and 16GB 1600MHZ Hyperx DDR3 RAM. GPU is RTX 2060. I think I should wait DDR5's arrival but in my country, R5 3500X is $150. I would buy R5 3500X, Asrock A320M-HDRV4(it is support Ryzen 3000 series) and 16GB 3200MHZ Dual Channel DDR4 RAM.
I want to sell i7 4790 for best price and best upgrading. What should i do?
 
wait if you can. not so much for ddr5, but new amd cpu.chips coming, so prices will drop and you could get a 3600X/3700 and a x570 board.

to run 3xxx series cpu on 3/400 chip, you need to flash bios BEFORE installing the cpu,
so unless you have a 1xxx/2xxx series cpu, only the "big" boards allow for flashing without cpu.

edit: why upgrade anyway? if its about gaming, crank up game/driver settings towards quality, this will put more load on the gpu (less cpu).
 
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If you can get the 3600(non X) at a decent price, that would be a massive upgrade. Also DDR5 is a long way away, no point waiting for it. The earliest (consumer) designs using DDR5 are at least 1.5 yrs from now, you can wait for Zen3 though if you want more bang for buck or more performance.
 
Are you happy with what your current systems performance?
 
an oc'ed 4790k should be good for little bit more. I would describe the 3500x as a poor choice however. I doubt that 6 thread CPU will last you 7 years.
Anyway your budget seems very limited but i would say wait for 4000 ryzen, then pick up on the cheap a 3600 or 3700x. Stay away from that mobo chipset, get at least a semi-decent b450, they are already cheap but with b550 probably out by the time 4000 series is out b450 should be even cheaper than it is currently (all this should still be in 2020).
Or.. dunno as long youre running that 2060 well enough on that cpu... maybe just wait till you want to upgrade that?
 
Ibotibo01 said:
I would buy R5 3500X, Asrock A320M-HDRV4(it is support Ryzen 3000 series) and 16GB 3200MHZ Dual Channel DDR4 RAM.
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not worth it.
the cpu is barely an upgrade over 4790
the board will barely handle any cpu upgrade in the future

either get a 3600 and b450 or nothing
 
Ram isn't something you should base your waiting time on, if you do want to wait then maybe for B550.
Ryzen 3600 would be a better pick, you can get them under 200$ these days
 
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best advice given by Fry178
wait for ryzen 3000 price drops,ryzens usually tend to lose a lot of value over time,been that way with 1000/2000.when ryzen 4000 launches and intel puts their core/thread count on par with ryzen,3600 should cost half what it costs now.you may even find 3700x cost less than 3600 now. pair it with a b450 at least to have an upgrade option.
 
As @Melvis said it depends (for me) if you are happy atm with the performance you get. If they're still good you can surely wait new launches by amd or intel and then upgrade to a previous generation than the new one, or if you can afford or want to have it at day one you can go with new launches.
If you are not happy now and you need it, you can go with a b450 board (a decent one, 100+$/Euros to have the possibility to upgrade in the future, especially MSI or AsRock) and put in here a Ryzen 5 3600 or even a 1600AF (mostly same performance of the 2600) and you're good to go.
 
If there is not an immediate need to buy now, there is, and always will be something around the corner worth waiting for.

Going with a DDR5 platform will be much more than a simple upgrade. It will basically be a totally new computer as DDR5 will require a new motherboard, and almost certainly a new CPU to support it. And, of course, a new motherboard constitutes a new computer (in terms of software licensing) so you will likely need a new OS license too. So that's a major investment from the start.

Will your current power supply support the new CPU? Will your current graphics card bottleneck that DDR5 and new CPU, or will you need a new graphics solution too? And then will your current PSU support all that?

I say, if you don't "need" a new computer now, wait and see what becomes available "around the corner" and what then appears just around the next corner. And in the meantime, look at what you can do to increase performance of your current system - perhaps migrate to SSDs?
 
Waiting for DDR5 is like waiting for electric cars that make sense.
You'll be waiting for a while.
 
OC i7-4790 to Ryzen 3500x is close to a lateral move. I would hold off if your desktop is still giving you the performance you want.
 
If you're not in a hurry and can wait around two years, wait for DDR5. When the time comes, you will be able to choose between diving into DDR5 systems (like Zen 4 or whatever Intel has available at the time) or maybe buy DDR4 systems at somewhat lower prices.

Otherwise, either buy whatever is available today (lots of advice already thrown around here) or wait just for this year's launches (like Zen 3, for example).
 
The Ryzen chips are great for sure, but that Asrock A320M-HDRV4 board is just not worth it at all. I would just wait and save up for a more substantial upgrade, perhaps when Zen 3 or whatever Intel has down the line is in the market that will last you for a long time.
 
I OC'ed to 4.5GHZ but temperature reached 80C for 100% usage(normally 60C). Now, i am using it with 4 GHZ all cores. it is 4% more powerful than normal without warming(60C).
 
Ibotibo01 said:
I OC'ed to 4.5GHZ but temperature reached 80C for 100% usage(normally 60C). Now, i am using it with 4 GHZ all cores. it is 4% more powerful than normal without warming(60C).
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Try 4.4 with lower voltage
What are you using for testing temps and stability?
 
I'd wait. I got 2700X and I'm waiting for the new AMD CPUs.
 
I can't speak for anyone else...but if I owned your system I wouldn't even consider an upgrade. That is...if your storage drive is of adequate size? You didn't mention this. IF it was smaller than 500GB's...I'd probably upgrade only that part if it was my system.

Other than this...I'd just be happy with what I have and passively put aside some cash for a future build. I usually wait until I see something that comes along that just feels right as an upgrade and that is what I did with my build. I waited three years....with patience.

I could not be happier with my system...:). It's not the fastest...but for me, it is absolutely perfect AND my Ryzen 5 2600/RX 580 combo is probably no faster than yours...it's probably slower.

R5 2600 Vs. i7-4790K

Are you giving that 4790 enough credit? Familiarity breeds...well, you know.

Best Regards,

Liquid Cool
 
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In all honesty, ZEN2 is a superior CPU tech and would offer a strong upgrade, that said if you are willing to wait for 2020, ZEN3 is just around the corner, and will provide a considerable boost in efficiency and performance. That's what I'm doing, waiting for ZEN3. ;)

Also you would want a R7 3700X and/or R7 3800X as an upgrade path for your setup.

 
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Ibotibo01 said:
I have i7 4790 with H81M-P33 and 16GB 1600MHZ Hyperx DDR3 RAM. GPU is RTX 2060. I think I should wait DDR5's arrival but in my country, R5 3500X is $150. I would buy R5 3500X, Asrock A320M-HDRV4(it is support Ryzen 3000 series) and 16GB 3200MHZ Dual Channel DDR4 RAM.
I want to sell i7 4790 for best price and best upgrading. What should i do?
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From i7 4790 to R5 3500X is a not an upgrade but just a side replace (from single core to all core threads) to a new platform. I would wait, not for DDR5 imperatively (that could be at least 2years more), but for anything new that would actually make sense. Even R5 3600/X wont give you all that much of a noticable performance, in gaming or any other low/middle work load. Only if you use full/max threaded apps.

If you are on to 1080/1440p gaming the i7 4790+RTX2060 should not have any significant issue running current games. I would wait another year.
 
My plan is to keep the DDR3 16GB and upgrade to haswell Xeon 1650V3 6C/12T $99 and $59 socket 2011 CN Mobo. Probably a bad idea but wth.
Oh well on second inspection 2011-3 needs DDR4.
$150 for 6core seems expensive, and DDR4 is inflating at the moment $75, not sure how high it can go.
Before DDR5 we have to go through socket 1200, then refresh/shrink on the same socket. 2,5+ years and be subjected to the stutter here and there.
 
cucker tarlson said:
Try 4.4 with lower voltage
What are you using for testing temps and stability?
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Motherboard is using auto voltage because it is entry level motherboard. It OC'ed to itself to auto GHZ but if i use 4GHZ for processor base frequency, it is getting boost to 4.44GHz. I can't change coltage.
For 3.9 GHz base frequency, boost is 4.21GHz.
For 3.8 GHz base frequency, boost is 3.99GHz.
For 3.6 GHz base frequency, boost is 3.99GHz but all cores averages are 3.8GHZ.

For 4.44GHz(Boost), i don't think it is stable due to the fact that in games, audio is not responding sometimes.
For 4.21GHz(Boost), i didn't use enough for reflecting but it reaches 78C.
For 3.99GHz(base is 3.8Ghz), it is working well and it only reaches 60C
For base is 3.6GHZ, it have worked well already.

I tested with Far Cry 5(1080p Ultra), results are:
4.44GHz is getting 93 FPS(NOT ALL CORES).
3.99 GHz all cores is getting 90 FPS.
Normal profile is getting 88FPS.

For me, I am thinking 3.99GHz all cores for stability and temperature.

What should i do?

Liquid Cool said:
I can't speak for anyone else...but if I owned your system I wouldn't even consider an upgrade. That is...if your storage drive is of adequate size? You didn't mention this. IF it was smaller than 500GB's...I'd probably upgrade only that part if it was my system.

Other than this...I'd just be happy with what I have and passively put aside some cash for a future build. I usually wait until I see something that comes along that just feels right as an upgrade and that is what I did with my build. I waited three years....with patience.

I could not be happier with my system...:). It's not the fastest...but for me, it is absolutely perfect AND my Ryzen 5 2600/RX 580 combo is probably no faster than yours...it's probably slower.

R5 2600 Vs. i7-4790K

Are you giving that 4790 enough credit? Familiarity breeds...well, you know.

Best Regards,

Liquid Cool
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Firstly, thanks for all replies in this thread. I think you are right.

I don't know my how i am thinking actually. Occasionally, i am thinking DDR3 systems are getting ages and change the sell price. Sometimes, i7 4790 is nice for me but BF5's FPS are really bad. I'm getting 75-80FPS in ultra with drops. If i choose play with Ray Tracing, CPU usage is 100% and it is dropping in 30FPS. Even, GTX 1660S is getting 50-60FPS.
Nevertheless, I think that i will sell CPU when DDR5 releases. Well, my thought is changing with prices.
 
ppn said:
My plan is to keep the DDR3 16GB and upgrade to haswell Xeon 1650V3 6C/12T $99

and $59 socket 2011 CN Mobo. Probably a bad idea but wth.



$150 for 6core seems expensive,


and DDR4 is inflating at the moment $75, not sure how high it can go.
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Depending on what CPU you currently have, you'll see less gaming performance overall.

A cheap S2011 Chinese eBay special will be based on the H61 chipset (B75 at best!) and offer limited functionality (search Google for info) versus the real S2011 boards you can buy for 2-3x as much - this is indeed a bad idea.

No, not really.

Where? (click) :twitch:
 
a water cooled gpu will probably be a good idea, at least on the long run
i ran a 2080 hybrid but had to swap it out (hw issues) and the air cooled 2080S (almost same pcb/power setup),
drops below the 2080, even when heavily tweaked, not even talking about ~100 more cores and +800 MHz more on vram (out of the box).
 
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