Korean mom meeting and say goodbye to her deceased daughter one last time in VR

[Deleted member 50521]

Mother Meets Recreation of Her Deceased Child in VR

South Korean TV broadcaster MBC recently aired a Korean language documentary that centers on a family’s loss of their young daughter, seven-year-old Nayeon. Using the power of photogrammetry, motion capture, and virtual reality, the team recreated Nayeon for one last goodbye with the family’s...

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Definitely a novel use of VR, letting people saying farewell to their deseased loved ones for one last time. There is always regrets in life for whatever reason. Some one like this mom just needs one last closure with her daughter. Honestly probably not the best thing for everyone. It is bad enough for say goodbye already.


Anyway I thought it is a novel use of VR so just wanna share.


With better and better VR visuals and better AI based speech system, there maybe more applications like this.

 

[trickson]

That is just Ducking creepy and sick! God GOD is there NOTHING they wont mess with?

 

[Flanker]

I suppose this can be used as some type of therapy to help people grieve for their lost ones. OTOH it can cross some cultural taboo, like animating the dead type of wrong.

 

[R-T-B]

That is just Ducking creepy and sick! God GOD is there NOTHING they wont mess with?

I'll let the mom decide that one.

 

[Bones]

One word for this:
Caprica.

And this is how our Cylon problem starts.........

 

[Xzibit]

I suppose this can be used as some type of therapy to help people grieve for their lost ones. OTOH it can cross some cultural taboo, like animating the dead type of wrong.

How are they going to grieve for the bill they get for the mo-cap and the programming that goes into it.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Wow. Folks, the OP shared something very touching and heart felt, a way for technology to help a grieving mother close a painful chapter in life, and you're mocking that? Seriously?

Have some self-respect and dignity... Not cool peeps, not cool at all.

 

[hat]

I, uh, yeah... I don't think this is a good idea... to be honest, I find this downright disturbing.

 

[Ruru]

That's kinda sad. If that becomes mainstream, I'll put my Oculus on and say goodbye to my cousin, he died when I was serving on the army.

 

[Xzibit]

Wow. Folks, the OP shared something very touching and heart felt, a way for technology to help a grieving mother close a painful chapter in life, and you're mocking that? Seriously?

Have some self-respect and dignity... Not cool peeps, not cool at all.

Try reading the article. Even the author still has his doubts

Putting aside the obvious exploitation factor of reuniting a mother with her deceased child for television viewers—Nayeon even pulls at the heartstrings by telling her father to stop smoking, and her siblings not to fight so much— recreating a deceased loved one in such high fidelity raises some ethical concerns, and they’re ones we simply don’t have clear answers to yet. Whether conjuring virtual doppelgangers of lost loved ones may one day be considered an unnecessary re-traumatization, or a valid coping mechanism to help overcome tragedy, we just can’t say for now.

After translating each subtitle, my first cynical instincts to label this a blatantly insensitive puppeteering of a dead child are mostly gone. It’s not perfect, but it makes sense to me on some level.

They are other articles about it as well that raise a lot more questions and have quotes of the mothers re-actions. Is she going to remember her real daughter now or re-created series of the AI. One of the disturbing ones is profiteering from dead people.

 

[GamerGuy]

I guess it's up to the mother to decide, we're certainly NOT the ones to judge. IF it allows her to bid a final farewell to her daughter and close this painful chapter of her life, who are we to say otherwise?

 

[dorsetknob]

Hm just had a Buisness idea !

Presenting

" My Last Will and Testmony Interactive VRtm "

 

[R0H1T]

Try reading the article. Even the author still has his doubts

Yes & the author simply has no idea about whether it will work or not, in the end however a net-positive impact is welcome. Though just to be clear people look towards lots of things in life, to get them away from some/many of the challenges they face daily. Video games being a prime example!

One of the disturbing ones is profiteering from dead people.

Not any worse than conning the living ones, in fact that's much worse!

 

[hat]

Yes & the author simply has no idea about whether it will work or not, in the end however a net-positive impact is welcome. Though just to be clear people look towards lots of things in life, to get them away from some/many of the challenges they face daily. Video games being a prime example!

No, it isn't. There's a wide difference between playing a video game to conjuring an interactive replica of a deceased relative...

Maybe it might work for some people... but it creeps me the hell out, man.

 

[Bones]

No, it isn't. There's a wide difference between playing a video game to conjuring an interactive replica of a deceased relative...

Maybe it might work for some people... but it creeps me the hell out, man.

My thoughts exactly......
Creeeeeepy.

 

[R-T-B]

I, uh, yeah... I don't think this is a good idea... to be honest, I find this downright disturbing.

I wouldn't like this either. But I feel it's not our place to make that decision beyond our personal selves.

 

[Xzibit]

Not any worse than conning the living ones, in fact that's much worse!

Isn't that what shes doing to her mind. She went on this long journey to feed information and script scenarios to programmers to fool herself virtualy after 4 yrs.

What if the little girl didn't want to be brought back as a scripted mo-cap A.I. Where is the VR child services at ?

Its dark. What if the situation is a child doesn't like their parent and tragically the child passes. Parents can't handle their passing and use this to re-write their relationship to feel better. Benefits the survivor but not the decease.

 

[AsRock]

I wouldn't like this either. But I feel it's not our place to make that decision beyond our personal selves.

Yup deal with it ( part of life ), as next step is that t get a option to keep seeing lost love one, at price of course.

 

[Deleted member 50521]

In another application: i think many historical events will soon be able to be experienced forst hand for education purpose. Like french revolution, signing declaration of independence. Just the like the moon landing experience before.

Isn't that what shes doing to her mind. She went on this long journey to feed information and script scenarios to programmers to fool herself virtualy after 4 yrs.

What if the little girl didn't want to be brought back as a scripted mo-cap A.I. Where is the VR child services at ?

Its dark. What if the situation is a child doesn't like their parent and tragically the child passes. Parents can't handle their passing and use this to re-write their relationship to feel better. Benefits the survivor but not the decease.

The dead can’t feel or tell anything. If it is of any service to the living there is a market.

This is a prime of example of “get off your morale high horse” where many westerners simply LOVE to ride

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Not my place to tell any parent how to grieve for their child but while I can see that the people behind this mean well, there is also a potential side effect that bereaved parents who might be driven absolutely insane from grief gain some sort of mental attachment to the loved one thats been 'bought back' for that final goodbye and try to carry on with regular life with the A.i. --- This isnt good because you never come to terms with what happened, get over the grief and move on with life.

People will use this as a way to fill that empty void in their heart/soul that the deceased left and used like a drug or coping mechanism. --- I cant agree with this use of the tech in that situation. People will just become depressed hermits and society will just collapse in on itself

 

[phanbuey]

As a parent, this traumatized me. I can't even imagine; but if I had to, then I'm not sure I would want to deal with it like this. Seems a bit like instead of letting the scar heal, opening the wound and then poking inside it a bit.

Interesting for sure (in a black-mirror-going-to-be-thinking-about-this-all-day kind of way).

 

[Chomiq]

If it gives people closure I can't be against it.

 

[dirtyferret]

As a parent, this traumatized me. I can't even imagine; but if I had to, then I'm not sure I would want to deal with it like this. Seems a bit like instead of letting the scar heal, opening the wound and then poking inside it a bit.

Interesting for sure (in a black-mirror-going-to-be-thinking-about-this-all-day kind of way).

agreed and I can also see less then scrupulous companies using this to take advantage of grieving parents

 

[Eskimonster]

i lost my brother when he was 21, seeing him in VR would rip up all the old wounds again.

 

[trickson]

Yeah this is just too creepy.
Haven't they heard of the saying, Rest in piece?
How can one rest in piece if you are raising them from the dead?
It's macabre and Creepy IMHO and I would never do such a thing. It's almost like digging them up from the grave.