Input lag is killing me

[Lkzz]

I don't think there's any software that can reliably test for what you need, sadly. Burnintest is a stability test, stressing components heavily to see if anything crashes or otherwise fails. I don't know this for a fact, but I would be shocked if it did something as advanced as monitoring latencies while the PC is being stressed.

Man, is kinda hard to explain, but this lag it's harder while I'm playing CSGO, but for example when I'm playing Valorant is very very little. And the Burnintest would be more to test another problem that I'm suffering, which is blue screen, that I don't know if is related to this input lag problem at all. I had this blue screen problem on the "old PC", but probably was something related to the temperature, cause I had a GTX 1080, which has this fame of being really hot, and sometimes while playing COD it could reach almost 90 °C. And on the last PC, even with the constant blue screen error, I didn't have this "Input lag or whatever lag" problem.

 

[milewski1015]

Hmm and how can I exactly do that?

The same page where you downloaded the chipset driver, there’s a SATA driver there too

 

[Lkzz]

The same page where you downloaded the chipset driver, there’s a SATA driver there too

Thanks mate!

Either you're doing something in the background with your harddisk, or windows is indexing files hardcore, because the storage DPC counts are insane compare to others. If not, I would recommend installing the SATA drivers from the motherboard website.
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Mine for comparison (I have indexing service disabled):
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The results after updating SATA drivers

 

[Mussels]

disconnect the sata drive and run just the SSD and see if that issue goes away
your system specs dont even say what drive it is

 

[Lkzz]

Well I have a Ssd M.2 Western Digital (wd) Black 512gb Nvme Pcie + Samsung HD 1TB. You mean trying to run the PC without the HDD?

 

[mouacyk]

If you want to know what's hitting your HDD so much, look in the following location:

I suspect it's Windows search indexing or malware scanning.

 

[Mussels]

Well I have a Ssd M.2 Western Digital (wd) Black 512gb Nvme Pcie + Samsung HD 1TB. You mean trying to run the PC without the HDD?

yes. you still only told me the brand, leaving hundreds of models it could be - disconnect it and see if this is input lag, or hard drive lag.

 

[Lkzz]

If you want to know what's hitting your HDD so much, look in the following location:
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I suspect it's Windows search indexing or malware scanning.

This are the results, what can I do to solve this? I searched if this "SVCHOST.EXE" is the virus one and luckly it isn't, so I jdesactivated the windows update, and then I set the priorty to low and put just to use the CPU 0, which in my case I have 8

yes. you still only told me the brand, leaving hundreds of models it could be - disconnect it and see if this is input lag, or hard drive lag.

Alright I will try that tomorrow, but if you see the results it's probably something related to hard drive lag, this "SVCHOST.EXE" is consuming so much

 

[Mussels]

svchost is windows updates

 

[Lkzz]

svchost is windows updates

But is it normal to consume that much?

 

[Mussels]

But is it normal to consume that much?

during updates? yes

and if windows is using that slow ass mech drive for those updates, the system would likely slow down quite a lot and stutter

 

[Lkzz]

during updates? yes

and if windows is using that slow ass mech drive for those updates, the system would likely slow down quite a lot and stutter

I think that's exactly what's happening

 

[Mussels]

well, whats installed on the mech drive?

 

[Lkzz]

well, whats installed on the mech drive?

Well, how can I show you? I'm sorry man, but I just got a lot on my plate right now, this problem that I don't know how to fix, my dad with covid, my head is just a mess. So I'm really sorry for asking so many questions, but I want to give exactly what you asking for, so that way you guys can try to help me and I finally can get rid of one problem.

 

[mouacyk]

You really should install Windows to the faster SSD or NVMe drive, so Windows updates don't take forever like this and interfere.

 

[Mussels]

is windows on the mech drive or the SSD?

 

[Valantar]

I would expect any HDD-based lag to be much more significant and intermittent (i.e. outright freezes or very major slowdowns lasting a second or two at random but frequent times, rather than the system feeling overall slow), which doesn't match too well with the op's description of the issue. But it could be the case, of course.

 

[Lkzz]

is windows on the mech drive or the SSD?

I'm not sure, but probably on the mech drive

You really should install Windows to the faster SSD or NVMe drive, so Windows updates don't take forever like this and interfere.

So I need to format my computer?

I would expect any HDD-based lag to be much more significant and intermittent (i.e. outright freezes or very major slowdowns lasting a second or two at random but frequent times, rather than the system feeling overall slow), which doesn't match too well with the op's description of the issue. But it could be the case, of course.

Basically I suffer this lag sometimes, especially playing CSGO, and constant blue screens without any meaning, sometimes when I try to restart my computer this blue screen happens...

Hey guys just a quick update: Yes, all my things, including Windows and Steam such as other games, are installed on my SDD. Later I will try to run some tests withou the HDD, and I agree with you man @Valantar, I higly doubt that the problem is being caused by the HDD, I think maybe is something related to SDD or my memorys. If you guys have any other tests that I can run to make things clear, I accept suggestions...

And another thing, this input lag seems harder just on CSGO, I can move and spray normally with this

 

[Mussels]

hard drives can cause stutter, windows has to pause and wait any time the drive spins up - and WINDOWS chooses when its accessed, not you.
Sitting there playing CSGO would give the drive time to idle, and then windows says 'oh good you're idle, time to defrag' or so on

theres so much information trickling out so slowly... you get bluescreens and never mentioned them?

disconnect the hard drive and see what happens, and give us photos of any BSOD's so we can read the codes

 

[Frick]

What error codes do you get?

 

[Valantar]

The sudden mention of BSODs definitely changes things. Can't remember if this has been done, so I'll ask: have you run any type of memory stability test? Memtest64 is a decent solution for running one in Windows, though I prefer making a bootable Memtest86 (not Memtest86+, it has a bug that causes it to hang on some multicore CPUs) USB stick and running that overnight.

 

[Lkzz]

hard drives can cause stutter, windows has to pause and wait any time the drive spins up - and WINDOWS chooses when its accessed, not you.
Sitting there playing CSGO would give the drive time to idle, and then windows says 'oh good you're idle, time to defrag' or so on

theres so much information trickling out so slowly... you get bluescreens and never mentioned them?

disconnect the hard drive and see what happens, and give us photos of any BSOD's so we can read the codes

I didn't think they had any connection, also I created another post based on this blue screen, but I had to delete it. The most usual code I get it's "system_thread_exception_not_handled" and "irql not less or equal", sorry for not mentioning that before guys, my bad...

What error codes do you get?

Mostly "system_thread_exception_not_handled" and "irql not less or equal", sometimes even when I try to restart my computer this happens wihout any explanation

The sudden mention of BSODs definitely changes things. Can't remember if this has been done, so I'll ask: have you run any type of memory stability test? Memtest64 is a decent solution for running one in Windows, though I prefer making a bootable Memtest86 (not Memtest86+, it has a bug that causes it to hang on some multicore CPUs) USB stick and running that overnight.

I used the MemTest64 and this are the resulsts, do you know any other to test the memory? If I change the slots, will it make any difference? Also I'm pretty curious, cause this "Lag" happens harder and more often while I'm playing CSGO, while on Valorant it seems really normal. I don't know if this blue screen has anything to do with it, but is kinda curious...

 

[Valantar]

I didn't think they had any connection, also I created another post based on this blue screen, but I had to delete it. The most usual code I get it's "system_thread_exception_not_handled" and "irql not less or equal", sorry for not mentioning that before guys, my bad...


Mostly "system_thread_exception_not_handled" and "irql not less or equal", sometimes even when I try to restart my computer this happens wihout any explanation


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I used the MemTest64 and this are the resulsts, do you know any other to test the memory? If I change the slots, will it make any difference? Also I'm pretty curious, cause this "Lag" happens harder and more often while I'm playing CSGO, while on Valorant it seems really normal. I don't know if this blue screen has anything to do with it, but is kinda curious...

IMO two passes of an in-OS memory test isn't sufficient to rule out memory instability - it can't test memory that's reserved for the OS/other applications, and two loops might not be enough to detect intermittent errors. If I were you I'd download Memtest86, put it on an USB stick, boot from that and run it at least overnight.

 

[Lkzz]

IMO two passes of an in-OS memory test isn't sufficient to rule out memory instability - it can't test memory that's reserved for the OS/other applications, and two loops might not be enough to detect intermittent errors. If I were you I'd download Memtest86, put it on an USB stick, boot from that and run it at least overnight.

And how can I boot from this USB? Do you have any video explaining how to do that? Maybe on YT or something. Or I simply plug the USB and select it as the first boot option on BIOS?

 

[Valantar]

And how can I boot from this USB? Do you have any video explaining how to do that? Maybe on YT or something. Or I simply plug the USB and select it as the first boot option on BIOS?

You need an USB drive with nothing on it, a bootable image file (typically a .iso) of the relevant test/OS/application + an application like Rufus or YUMI that allows you to extract the image onto the drive and make it bootable. Rufus is simple to use and supports a very broad range of systems, while YUMI is more limited in its support but allows for multiple images on one flash drive. Rufus should fit your needs here. Just follow the instructions in the application, don't have any other USB storage connected while preparing the drive (removes the chance of accidentally wiping the wrong drive), reboot and choose to boot from the USB rather than your Windows drive.