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LG caught bribing youtube channel over a monitor review

lynx29 said:
I was seriously considering buying an LG OLED in a couple years. Don't think I will now. That's kind of pathetic. Seriously... they should have the self-awareness to know they can't get away with that crap with hardware unboxed.
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Its good if you dont mind its 5k hours lifetime, at best 7k.
 
Mescalamba said:
Its good if you dont mind its 5k hours lifetime, at best 7k.
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Best buy warranty = new panel in 2-3 years. there's nothing else in this size at 120hz that compares... $1100 samsung qleds w uniformity issues and DSE.
 
Mescalamba said:
Its good if you dont mind its 5k hours lifetime, at best 7k.
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Meh, my B9 is still going strong and I leave it on all the time. I've had it like a year and a half now.
 
phanbuey said:
Best buy warranty = new panel in 2-3 years. there's nothing else in this size at 120hz that compares... $1100 samsung qleds w uniformity issues and DSE.
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Yea sadly Samsung makes better TVs than monitors as I learned. Currently have one of their TVs .. better than any LCD I tested so far. :/ Zero backlight bleed, near perfect uniformity, just no high Hz for gaming, but at least its really responsive and from what I saw goes fine with v-sync. Bigger ones can even do 120 Hz.

R-T-B said:
Meh, my B9 is still going strong and I leave it on all the time. I've had it like a year and a half now.
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Lucky or dunno. Some folks noticed burned out pic in those 5k hours. Or they are unlucky ones. :D
 
Mescalamba said:
Lucky or dunno. Some folks noticed burned out pic in those 5k hours. Or they are unlucky ones.
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It's mostly anything Gen 8 (8 series or whatever) or older. The older models had a far smaller red subpixel, which they found ages fastest. They enlarged it, and it seems to be working very well.
 
That was really bad of LG - it's no "translation mistake" and I suspect illegal of them to try it on. I'm glad that channel stood up to them and called them out publically. I've now subbed their channel as they look very good, with reviews that I can trust.

I do wonder how many other channels have been compromised this way, though. Judging by the attitude of the LG rep, they've clearly done this before, with some success and get away with it. Remind me not to give them my money.
 
R-T-B said:
It's mostly anything Gen 8 (8 series or whatever) or older. The older models had a far smaller red subpixel, which they found ages fastest. They enlarged it, and it seems to be working very well.
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Ah, good to know. Given current state of monitors for PC, I think some OLED is in my future too. If I dont count high end Eizo or Dell, most are just.. bad. And those I mentioned are sadly no-go for high Hz.
 
Mescalamba said:
Ah, good to know. Given current state of monitors for PC, I think some OLED is in my future too. If I dont count high end Eizo or Dell, most are just.. bad. And those I mentioned are sadly no-go for high Hz.
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I upgraded from the LG 34GN850-B (which is one of the best UW 1440p high refresh IPS screen) to an OLED CX and it was the most significant upgrade in gaming experience that I had in a while
 
qubit said:
and I suspect illegal of them to try it on.
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Illegal? Nah. Wrong, despicable, devious, deceptive? Yes. Illegal? Nope.
 
TheoneandonlyMrK said:
HWUB Tim likely has way better monitors laying around if he wants one to use, in fact given how many he reviews he likely has too many about.

The shit your talking clearly tells me you hate tubertechs and clearly don't watch many reviews this way.

Somehow the written word is different, and less corrupted, wtaf.

Some of HWUb reviews stray a fair bit past negative as do gamers nexus.

Many sources, not one and not just the one who chats what you like is the way to asses your next purchase, your ways aren't for me.

I've seen it time and again ,some guy knows jack about something he has a pet peave over it, thinks the world's f#@£&@ stupid cos it doesn't flow his way and some try to create they're niche, you do you pal leave the general statements in your ass.

"These youtube channels still feel they not doing paid reviews"

They are not alone, I believe some aren't.
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I dont hate them, just I think they wrong on the sponsored aspect.

HUB seems to be one of the better one's to not been manipulated by vendors.
 
chrcoluk said:
I dont hate them, just I think they wrong on the sponsored aspect.

HUB seems to be one of the better one's to not been manipulated by vendors.
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just because something has worth doesn't mean it isn't worthless within a situation.
You try selling potatoes to a potato farmer who's just brought in his crop.
Worth= what the recipient values it at, not the recipient's viewer's or general public.
A monitor even traded for cash equivalents wouldn't pay for the time HWUB put into reviews IMHO.
 
Can anyone tell me what other site than TFT Central does legit, credible and in-depth reviews? I pretty much ONLY read TFT for this, but they can only do a few reviews a year and unfortunately waste lots of their precious their time on obscure stuff (like 27" 1080p junk etc).

I just won't buy a monitor without reading an exhaustive review first, and I haven't seen a site do anything even remotely similar to what TFT does, so help me, I need a good gaming monitor! :D
 
Octopuss said:
Can anyone tell me what other site than TFT Central does legit, credible and in-depth reviews? I pretty much ONLY read TFT for this, but they can only do a few reviews a year and unfortunately waste lots of their precious their time on obscure stuff (like 27" 1080p junk etc).

I just won't buy a monitor without reading an exhaustive review first, and I haven't seen a site do anything even remotely similar to what TFT does, so help me, I need a good gaming monitor! :D
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pcmonitors.info

prad.de
 
I don't speak german.
 
Paid reviews have been around for so long why is this so shocking? Using the word bribe instead of paid review only creates a drama filled headline to draw attention to the content creator instead of making the reviewer look like a sellout. Which is just as bad if you really think about it. Are they "selling" tech related videos or drama on their channels? Everyone knows LG sells a quality product and their success is not going to be changed because someone from their marketing team tried to pay for a review.
 
oldwalltree said:
Paid reviews have been around for so long why is this so shocking? Using the word bribe instead of paid review only creates a drama filled headline to draw attention to the content creator instead of making the reviewer look like a sellout. Which is just as bad if you really think about it. Are they "selling" tech related videos or drama on their channels? Everyone knows LG sells a quality product and their success is not going to be changed because someone from their marketing team tried to pay for a review.
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Man you're out there. Like the f-king Pluto.
 
TheoneandonlyMrK said:
just because something has worth doesn't mean it isn't worthless within a situation.
You try selling potatoes to a potato farmer who's just brought in his crop.
Worth= what the recipient values it at, not the recipient's viewer's or general public.
A monitor even traded for cash equivalents wouldn't pay for the time HWUB put into reviews IMHO.
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I wasnt saying that. I am saying on the technicalities of what is sponsored and what isnt. Also although one monitor isnt a lot in the grand scheme of things, what about having to buy every GPU, every monitor, every CPU, every board they review, the costs would soon add up and that would probably be enough to make a reviewer change their model.

So consider they review the FE, then maybe 3 to 4 AIB cards, they buy the FE at MSRP, pay 2k for each AIB card.

Plus the argument you brought up here doesnt just apply to big time youtubers, what about the small guys starting out, you think they can suck up buying 2k retail GPUs for a channel with a 1000 viewers? So yes once they big it may not matter as much, but they all start small. Not to mention even if the channel was funded by a millionaire, they could be taking months to get hold of retail kit during shortages. Most of the monitors reviewed by HUB this year as an example are not available to buy in the UK.
 
oldwalltree said:
To the unaware it might seem like that.
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TL;DR -- LG wanted to control the editorial direction of HUBs review meaning they restricted HUB from testing their new monitor against older LG monitors and offered to 'compensate' HUB to either redo the review or re-edit it to conform to their their guidelines --- This is the main gist of it.

The review was already quite a positive review anyway. HUB didnt have anything seriously bad to say about the monitor but corporate thought that people would see the new monitor, not be happy with it and pick up the older monitor instead of the new one so LG would be pushed in to some position of financial loss because of it.

LG are cannibalizing their own market but dont want consumers to know that they are cannibalizing
 
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