TPU's WCG/BOINC Team

[thebluebumblebee]

5600X's are going for $310-320!

 

[WhitetailAni]

I don't Fold for the TPU team, but I passed 50 million points somewhat recently!

And still powered only on Kepler.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

If you missed the Seasonic sales....:
Seasonic @ Newegg

 

[mstenholm]

If you missed the Seasonic sales....:
Seasonic @ Newegg

Yes I know it is not for outside US costumers but even if I was tempted and lived in US this would be a showstopper. I only checked one PSU (650 W Prime Ultra with $49.95!!!! shipping) and the cheaper models have free shipping and seems to be priced good.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

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Yes I know it is not for outside US costumers but even if I was tempted and lived in US this would be a showstopper. I only checked one PSU (650 W Prime Ultra with $49.95!!!! shipping) and the cheaper models have free shipping and seems to be priced good.

I don't think that link is working correctly for you. Here is what I see (ignore the last two):

Edit: I've ordered 3 different SKUs during this run and they've all come in a reasonable time, with free shipping.

 

[mstenholm]

I don't think that link is working correctly for you. Here is what I see (ignore the last two):

I see the same and if you look around you will see the snip that I posted above. It’s ok, as I said I’m not from US so I don’t have to care about having things shipped from China for the price of $49.95

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Let us presume that someone, who may or may not be the author of this post, is looking to procure more crunching power. What's the most cost-effective way to go about it? Power efficiency isn't necessarily a concern, because it's heating season. Purchase cost, however, is. There's maybe a couple of hundred USD available for this purchase/project. Are retired dual-socket servers the way to go?

 

[phill]

Let us presume that someone, who may or may not be the author of this post, is looking to procure more crunching power. What's the most cost-effective way to go about it? Power efficiency isn't necessarily a concern, because it's heating season. Purchase cost, however, is. There's maybe a couple of hundred USD available for this purchase/project. Are retired dual-socket servers the way to go?

Personally having got some older servers (so Xeon V1/V2/V3/V4 type stuff) these are power hungry monsters, whilst they might heat the room, they are not going to give masses of points back sadly. My two 16C 32T V4 Xeon's in my R730 server pull over 420w when under load and a 3900X will give you more points and much less power usage.

Personally I'd advise against it because you'll end up paying more in power than anything when running them. If your going to heat the room, I think get something newer because it will help your pockets long term... It might not warm the room as much, but it'll be cool both summer and the winter months when it runs

3700X/3900X, anything like this with a fairly good B450 board might cost a few quid more to start with, but will end up being much better for your money I think

 

[thebluebumblebee]

What's the most cost-effective way to go about it?

(@phill types faster than me)
IMHO, buy the parts from someone upgrading, something like a 3700X. Those retired servers put out a lot of heat and a lot of noise.

 

[Arjai]

Let us presume that someone, who may or may not be the author of this post, is looking to procure more crunching power. What's the most cost-effective way to go about it? Power efficiency isn't necessarily a concern, because it's heating season. Purchase cost, however, is. There's maybe a couple of hundred USD available for this purchase/project. Are retired dual-socket servers the way to go?

I have 3 T3500 Dell's w/ 5670 6 core 12 threads Cpu, worth 5000 point per day, each. My boxes run 235w with WCG running full on. OS is Ubuntu LTS, it's rather light weight and boosts WCG points over Windows.
https://www.stalliontek.com/
Mine came out to $170 w/ code VIP15. Not sure if that code is still good. I registered at the site, I think that is how I got the code.
PM me if you want the complete set up, $198 without code and a 2 year warrantee.

edit. The current code on the site is 10%. So, with my build and that code, $179.09

 

[1freedude]

I am brand new to crunching, and using freebie lga1366 dual socket proliants. The noise is not bad, and heat output no more than desktops. Two servers pulling 450 watts -ish. The screenie is one of the two servers....

Mind you, I have been switxhing between folding and crunching on the servers. Foldung will net 50k ppd on one, the other, around 45k

 

[thebluebumblebee]

My Ryzen 1700 running Linux pulls 144 watts and averages 12,000 PPD
My Ryzen 3700X running W10 (W1zard's tests indicate that it pulls ~5 watts more) averages 18,900 PPD

 

[80-watt Hamster]

My Ryzen 1700 running Linux pulls 144 watts and averages 12,000 PPD
My Ryzen 3700X running W10 (W1zard's tests indicate that it pulls ~5 watts more) averages 18,900 PPD

Is that from the wall?

 

[thebluebumblebee]

Is that from the wall?

Correct. Gold rated PSUs.

 

[mstenholm]

Is that from the wall?

Not many here have the equipment and knowledge to measure the CPU alone power uptake. I hope that I don’t offend you @thebluebumblebee . These numbers go along with mine 180 W at the wall for a 2700X.

Platinum I think and 230 V

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

182watts(3800X) here though I actually run it at 3.8Ghz(crunching with 96% max CPU usage?!) because it pulls just 135 Watt's then

 

[phill]

My 2700 will take about 130w with 16 threads going, that's a full system. Think points wise, somewhere about the 10000 to possibly 15000 at most per day. The 3900X on 24 threads will pull under 150w with the voltages set to 1.10vcore and that boosts to about 3.6 to 3.8GHz which is around normal boosts I think... I think with that setting it's about 20,000 or so a day in points, possibly more. I'd have to check some of the stats The 3950X I have here as well is pulling full load 240w, around 120w idle, I've just checked (watt meter always plugged in to my rigs) I've not yet tried my 5950X, but with auto volts and such, I've seen the full system pull around 200w with a full CPU load and an idle of around 80w (I need to go turn that on and check in with @TheoneandonlyMrK .......)

 

[1freedude]

Let us presume that someone, who may or may not be the author of this post, is looking to procure more crunching power. What's the most cost-effective way to go about it? Power efficiency isn't necessarily a concern, because it's heating season. Purchase cost, however, is. There's maybe a couple of hundred USD available for this purchase/project. Are retired dual-socket servers the way to go?

Based on my limited experience, yes, if you can get them cheap enough. I dont know why, but the work per thread on my machines seems to be valued higher than the more modern systems listed so far, with marginally more electricity usage.

Attached pic is both of the server's combined usage

 

[phill]

Hope everyones well!
Same for You, Phill!

I been super busy with my newborn daughter, so only my xeon is crunching!
Havent been much around either.

I mounted a cooler master 120 aio on my r7 1700 and its pump been making crazy noises.
Cant really get around to troubleshoot it still.

keep it cool and keep it going guys! cheers!

@Lorec So sorry I'd not replied to you directly but massive congrats with the new born baby girl!!!! I'll try and drop you a quick PM soon enough

Let us presume that someone, who may or may not be the author of this post, is looking to procure more crunching power. What's the most cost-effective way to go about it? Power efficiency isn't necessarily a concern, because it's heating season. Purchase cost, however, is. There's maybe a couple of hundred USD available for this purchase/project. Are retired dual-socket servers the way to go?

This link might help you....

Not sure whether or not this will help you but thought it might be worth a look at least Page 8 has some of the results I've mentioned above I actually need to update it to be honest.....

 

[theonedub]

I've had my Threadripper back online for the last 23 days or so nearly 24/7, nice to be back in the cold months. Has anyone seen the performance hits with Win 11 and AMD many core CPUs? Want to throw Win11 on this PC (although I should really be getting a linux distro setup finally lol).

Also got a COVID GPU WU the other day, took my Vega64 maybe 1min to complete. Haven't seen a GPU WU on WCG since the days bitcoin was just getting started!

 

[PaulieG]

Well boys, I got a promotion at work. The kind of promotion where I'm now my boss's boss. That's good. It's also a "alternative workspace" position, so I can work anywhere I want that has an internet connection. That's good for the most part. However, I've had to turn my crunching room into an office. It's a space with no windows and less than optimal ventilation, so it get's rather toasty with 5 crunchers. My solution is to just run them Friday morning to Monday morning from now on. So my crunching work is going to be low during the week with just the 3 crunchers I have in my garage, then let the others loose on the weekend.

 

[mstenholm]

Well boys, I got a promotion at work. The kind of promotion where I'm now my boss's boss. That's good. It's also a "alternative workspace" position, so I can work anywhere I want that has an internet connection. That's good for the most part. However, I've had to turn my crunching room into an office. It's a space with no windows and less than optimal ventilation, so it get's rather toasty with 5 crunchers. My solution is to just run them Friday morning to Monday morning from now on. So my crunching work is going to be low during the week with just the 3 crunchers I have in my garage, then let the others loose on the weekend.

WCG have to come in second. Congratulation, I think, with your new position

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Personally having got some older servers (so Xeon V1/V2/V3/V4 type stuff) these are power hungry monsters, whilst they might heat the room, they are not going to give masses of points back sadly. My two 16C 32T V4 Xeon's in my R730 server pull over 420w when under load and a 3900X will give you more points and much less power usage.

Personally I'd advise against it because you'll end up paying more in power than anything when running them. If your going to heat the room, I think get something newer because it will help your pockets long term... It might not warm the room as much, but it'll be cool both summer and the winter months when it runs

3700X/3900X, anything like this with a fairly good B450 board might cost a few quid more to start with, but will end up being much better for your money I think

(@phill types faster than me)
IMHO, buy the parts from someone upgrading, something like a 3700X. Those retired servers put out a lot of heat and a lot of noise.

I haven't had much luck thus far scrounging up secondhand Zen2 stuff for acceptable money. What I did find was discounted Intel stuff. 11600K can be had for $20 less than the 10700K. One would presume that the extra cores would win out for WCG, which would be the deciding factor between the two. Would this be correct?

 

[mstenholm]

I haven't had much luck thus far scrounging up secondhand Zen2 stuff for acceptable money. What I did find was discounted Intel stuff. 11600K can be had for $20 less than the 10700K. One would presume that the extra cores would win out for WCG, which would be the deciding factor between the two. Would this be correct?

As far as I can see the none on the team has either doing WCG, at least not visible to the rest of the world so I can't find any numbers.

I doubt that WCG relevant IPC has changed much between the two generations so we are left with the simple formula threads X speed. 11600K is a 125 W CPU, 12 threads, 10700 a 65 W, 16 threads so lower speed but more cores. The 11600K needs a better cooler to maintain the higher boost clock. Given the same cooler my money would be on the 16 threads. A better cooler and my money would be on the newer CPU. Go for the 11600K if you decide the Intel path.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

As far as I can see the none on the team has either doing WCG, at least not visible to the rest of the world so I can't find any numbers.

I doubt that WCG relevant IPC has changed much between the two generations so we are left with the simple formula threads X speed. 11600K is a 125 W CPU, 12 threads, 10700 a 65 W, 16 threads so lower speed but more cores. The 11600K needs a better cooler to maintain the higher boost clock. Given the same cooler my money would be on the 16 threads. A better cooler and my money would be on the newer CPU. Go for the 11600K if you decide the Intel path.

It'd be a K-chip in both cases, so same boat for cooling. Get both, test 'em out and flip the loser?