Should I replace my GTX 1070 Ti with an RX 6600 XT?

[Bjørgersson]

Hi guys,

What do you think, should I replace my GTX 1070 Ti with an RX 6600 XT?

The RX 6600 XT is a brand new, unopened Sapphire Pulse with 3 years warranty and is ~730€. My GTX 1070 Ti is quite rare, I think I could sell it for ~550€, so the price difference is ~180€.

Thanks for any advice.

 

[WhitetailAni]

No, the 6600 XT is slightly worse in hardware.
I don't know what TPU is measuring cores for with AMD cards, but the 1070 Ti has 152 ROPs to the 6600 XT's 128, and 256-bit memory bus for the 1070 Ti vs. 128-bit on the 6600 XT (I know the 6600 XT uses GDDR6 compared to the 1070 Ti w/ GDDR5 but the memory bandwidth is roughly equivalent.

I am an idiot ignore me.

 

[Bjørgersson]

No, the 6600 XT is slightly worse in hardware.
I don't know what TPU is measuring cores for with AMD cards, but the 1070 Ti has 152 ROPs to the 6600 XT's 128, and 256-bit memory bus for the 1070 Ti vs. 128-bit on the 6600 XT (I know the 6600 XT uses GDDR6 compared to the 1070 Ti w/ GDDR5 but the memory bandwidth is roughly equivalent.

What do you mean by slightly worse in hardware? Those are raw numbers and they mean nothing without context. Just check the review I've linked, the GTX 1070 Ti is around the same performance level as the RTX 2060, which is the slowest card in the review. Then compare it to the RX 6600 XT.

 

[neatfeatguy]

After looking at performance difference here on TPU, looks like the 1070 Ti is about 5% behind a 1080. With that said I'd expect you'd see the following improvements:

Gaming at 1080p or 1440p you'd probably expect to see roughly a 20-25% performance gain. If by some chance you're gaming 4k, the 6600XT doesn't fair as well and you'd see maybe 10% gains.

 

[Selaya]

depends on what you're playing. dx11 you'll barely see any gains if any at all, but dx12 the newer gens do take ahead of pascal by quite a lot.

 

[ixi]

I would go for it if it costs 180e. Brand new gpu, better drivers, better performance, 3 year warranty. 6600 xt eats gtx 1070 with a knife. Two months ago bought msi 6600 xt for 400e for a friends girlfriend, worth the penny. Playing CoD Warzone on 4k resolution on tv without hickups.

Good luck selling 1070 for 550e, dunno how desperate the buyer should be to buy this gpu for 550e.

 

[Mindweaver]

W1zzard's review of the ASRock RX 6600 XT shows faster than the 2070 super and 3060 in most cases. It looks like a sound upgrade to me.

 

[GamerGuy]

No, the 6600 XT is slightly worse in hardware.
I don't know what TPU is measuring cores for with AMD cards, but the 1070 Ti has 152 ROPs to the 6600 XT's 128, and 256-bit memory bus for the 1070 Ti vs. 128-bit on the 6600 XT (I know the 6600 XT uses GDDR6 compared to the 1070 Ti w/ GDDR5 but the memory bandwidth is roughly equivalent.

You're kidding, aren't you? You can't compared different architectures that way, raw specs cannot be compared this way. The RX 6600 XT is a fair bit faster than the GTX 1070 Ti.

 

[Deleted member 202104]

What do you mean by slightly worse in hardware? Those are raw numbers and they mean nothing without context. Just check the review I've linked, the GTX 1070 Ti is around the same performance level as the RTX 2060, which is the slowest card in the review. Then compare it to the RX 6600 XT.

I think for the ~€180 difference, it's a nice improvement in performance.

 

[QuietBob]

I see you've got a 1080p 144Hz monitor. What games do you play? Do you need high framerates? The 6600XT is an excellent card for 1080p, you'll be able to max out all current titles with 60+ fps. It's also amazingly efficient, especially with 60Hz V-sync.

But you already have a capable GPU. According to TPU reviews, the 6600XT offers around 40% better performance. I wouldn't consider upgrading your current card for the difference, especially at such exorbitant price. That is, unless you spend a lot of time with a specific game that doesn't feel smooth enough / look its best with your 1070Ti.

 

[Sithaer]

Good luck selling 1070 for 550e, dunno how desperate the buyer should be to buy this gpu for 550e.

I'm from the same country as the OP and sadly thats more like reality here atm.
Just checked and the common MSI Gaming X 'the black+red colored' model goes for around 490 euro but in general all of the 1070 Tis are listed between 450-500 or so.

Personally I paid ~317 euro for my EVGA FTW 1070 in 2021 August when the prices were the lowest and since that the prices keep going up.

 

[droopyRO]

Let me help you with that question:

 

[wolf]

I wouldn't, not enough of a leap for me personally, but everyone needs to make that judgment for themselves. The price also seems ludicrous, but if you truly can sell a 1070Ti for ~550€ (cringe ) then I guess go for it?

 

[droopyRO]

Well, i got my 6600XT the day it launched for about 460 Euros. Never did sell my 1070 Ti, since this will be the "new normal" for at least 2 years and i need a backup GPU.
Maybe starting 2024, GPU prices will start to come down for the same performance segment. But until then, if you value your PC gaming, hold on to your GPU. Clean it and undervolt it so it gets the max lifespan it can.

PS: if OP pays no more than 250 Euros to upgrade then i will say, yes, it's worth it. You get a new card with anywhere of 25-50% more performance that has at least a 2 year warranty. Those 1070 Ti's are almost all out of warranty, and if they will crash and burn in a miners rig, so be it

 

[Bjørgersson]

After looking at performance difference here on TPU, looks like the 1070 Ti is about 5% behind a 1080. With that said I'd expect you'd see the following improvements:

Gaming at 1080p or 1440p you'd probably expect to see roughly a 20-25% performance gain. If by some chance you're gaming 4k, the 6600XT doesn't fair as well and you'd see maybe 10% gains.

I play at 1080p 144 Hz, and according to the TPU review, I'm hoping for a ~35% performance gain. If I upgrade.

depends on what you're playing. dx11 you'll barely see any gains if any at all, but dx12 the newer gens do take ahead of pascal by quite a lot.

I play a DX11 (BF4, BF1, GTA V, R6:S) and DX12 (BFV, I might also give Halo Infinite a try) games as well, but mostly the latter. DX11 performance in those games is fine with the 1070 Ti already, but in BFV I could use a bit more frames. Also, my monitor is only G-Sync compatible, but I can't use it as the screen goes black for 1-2 seconds every now and then while playing. With the RX 6600 XT, I should be able to use FreeSync without any problems.

I would go for it if it costs 180e. Brand new gpu, better drivers, better performance, 3 year warranty. 6600 xt eats gtx 1070 with a knife. Two months ago bought msi 6600 xt for 400e for a friends girlfriend, worth the penny. Playing CoD Warzone on 4k resolution on tv without hickups.

Good luck selling 1070 for 550e, dunno how desperate the buyer should be to buy this gpu for 550e.

1070 Ti Armor cards are being sold for around 530€, and GTX 1080 Gamings for around 600€ here, so I think 550€ for this 1070 Ti Titanium is quite reasonable in the given circumstances.

I think for the ~€180 difference, it's a nice improvement in performance.

If I'm not mistaken, the MSRP for the Pulse is 400€, so let's imagine we're in a parallel universe where GPU prices are normal: I buy the Pulse for 400€ and I sell the 1070 Ti for 220€, which I think should be around its normal price today. The difference is 180€ in this scenario as well.

I see you've got a 1080p 144Hz monitor. What games do you play? Do you need high framerates? The 6600XT is an excellent card for 1080p, you'll be able to max out all current titles with 60+ fps. It's also amazingly efficient, especially with 60Hz V-sync.

But you already have a capable GPU. According to TPU reviews, the 6600XT offers around 40% better performance. I wouldn't consider upgrading your current card for the difference, especially at such exorbitant price. That is, unless you spend a lot of time with a specific game that doesn't feel smooth enough / look its best with your 1070Ti.

Two of my replies above go for your as well.

I wouldn't, not enough of a leap for me personally, but everyone needs to make that judgment for themselves. The price also seems ludicrous, but if you truly can sell a 1070Ti for ~550€ (cringe ) then I guess go for it?

If prices were normal, I'd go for an RX 6700 XT too, but...

 

[wolf]

I play at 1080p 144 Hz, and according to the TPU review, I'm hoping for a ~35% performance gain. If I upgrade.

This is kinda my point, totally personal, but I'd go for 50%+ minimum or you might find the upgrade isn't satisfying for the $ spent. Ideally even more % of course, but I can appreciate the market is absolutely garbage atm.

 

[Bjørgersson]

This is kinda my point, totally personal, but I'd go for 50%+ minimum or you might find the upgrade isn't satisfying for the $ spent. Ideally even more % of course, but I can appreciate the market is absolutely garbage atm.

I see your point. Maybe in a year prices will go back to normal and I'll be able to afford an RX 6700 XT.

 

[nguyen]

3060 Ti should be around ~800eur and is a significant upgrade from a 1070Ti, plus RT+DLSS.

6600XT will not perform as good as reviews have shown without a PCIe gen4 platform and SAM support

 

[Bjørgersson]

3060 Ti should be around ~800eur and is a significant upgrade from a 1070Ti, plus RT+DLSS.

6600XT will not perform as good as reviews have shown without a PCIe gen4 platform and SAM support

They should be, but unfortunately they aren't here in Hungary. The cheapest one I could find is 890€. For 800€, I could only buy non-Ti 3060, which I don't want to.

I thought my motherboard had PCIe 4.0 slots, but now I see it doesn't. Would an R7 3700X + SAM with PCIe 3.0 not be sufficient?

 

[nguyen]

They should be, but unfortunately they aren't here in Hungary. The cheapest one I could find is 890€. For 800€, I could only buy non-Ti 3060, which I don't want to.

I thought my motherboard had PCIe 4.0 slots, but now I see it doesn't. Would an R7 3700X + SAM with PCIe 3.0 not be sufficient?

About 2-5%FPS drop off with PCIe gen3

About SAM, some people with Zen2 CPU are saying it could cause instability and have to disable it, so might be another 5% drop.

 

[QuietBob]

Also, my monitor is only G-Sync compatible, but I can't use it as the screen goes black for 1-2 seconds every now and then while playing.

Are you using the Asus TUF Gaming VG249Q from your system specs? If so, your monitor is FreeSync compatible. Have you tried forcing Adaptive Sync in Nvidia Control Panel? There are guides showing you the exact steps. You'll have better luck with DisplayPort connection.

If you aim for smooth 144 fps @ ultra though, you'll need much more powerful hardware, both GPU and CPU wise.

Personally, I wouldn't buy a new graphics card unless it offered at least double the performance of the current one. But I don't upgrade my hardware very often, and am happy with 60 fps.

 

[Bjørgersson]

Are you using the Asus TUF Gaming VG249Q from your system specs? If so, your monitor is FreeSync compatible. Have you tried forcing Adaptive Sync in Nvidia Control Panel? There are guides showing you the exact steps. You'll have better luck with DisplayPort connection.

If you aim for smooth 144 fps @ ultra though, you'll need much more powerful hardware, both GPU and CPU wise.

Personally, I wouldn't buy a new graphics card unless it offered at least double the performance of the current one. But I don't upgrade my hardware very often, and am happy with 60 fps.

Yip, my profile is up to date. I meant that my monitor is only compatible with G-Sync, but hasn't been certified by nVidia. What's weird is that the nVidia Control Panel says that it's not even compatible, altough I can still enable G-Sync. I'm guessing that's why the screen goes black every now and then when it's enabled. Everything is set up as in this reddit post.

I don't like HDMI for some reason, I've only been using DisplayPort ever since my GTX 960.

All the bottlenecks I've experienced so far in the games I've mentioned before was the GPU, please don't tell me a 3700X is not enough.

 

[LeonIncognito]

I got my 6600XT, upgrade from an RX 580, for $425. I consider that a steal these days. For comparison, today, the exact same manufacturer 6600XT variant at the exact same store is now retailing for $599.

I'm very happy with it and it's performance. I'm running games like Gears 5 and FFXV at a solid 120 FPS while only scaling back some effects with the rest of the settings at Ultra. Doom Eternal is a dream.

The only flaw is with that 128-bit memory bus. This is a 1080p card through and through. Significant performance loss at 1440p and not worth considering 4K. The ray-tracing takes a real performance hit too. Not worth it.

I have a 1080p 144hz HDR monitor so it works for me.

 

[SL2]

I'm from the same country as the OP and sadly thats more like reality here atm.

I would have guessed that Germany or Austria would be the place to buy for you. (I know, not in stock everywhere)

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[Sithaer]

I would have guessed that Germany or Austria would be the place to buy for you. (I know, not in stock everywhere)

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If I buy a brand new GPU then I prefer to have local 'read: in my country' retail 2-3 years warranty on it, sending it back to Germany or any other EU country in case something happens to it is not something I want to deal with.

We have a pretty good second hand marketplace here 'where I bought my 1070 and sold my 570' and if I can't buy a brand new GPU from a retailer in my country then I buy from that place instead. 'often have brand new cards with better prices than any retailer and still comes with some sort of warranty'
I'm assuming thats where the OP will also try to sell his 1070 Ti.