Assuming same price, what would you buy?

[Chrispy_]

As it turns out with these GPUs, 59 to 68 FPS average (see the review) is right where it's really noticeable and appreciated, especially when you figure that 1% lows are 10fps lower than that. And the most demanding games are also in the 45 to 55fps level of improvement. This is where all those relatively small FPS improvements really make a difference.

Well, if it matters to you personally, fine. I can't feel any difference between 45 and 55 FPS. If it was something like 30 to 55, then hell yes, but the difference we're talking about here is too small.

I'll side with Lew Zealand here. My previous Ryzen 4700U laptop had a 100Hz non-VRR display so I was typically hoping to lock framerates to 50fps (half vsync) and keep them there.

I created a 75, 85, 90, and 96Hz custom refresh rate and experimented with gaming at 38fps, 42fps, 45fps, and 48fps in the hopes that I wouldn't notice much difference and could run the laptop cooler or increase graphics quality but honestly, to me, the difference between each of those steps was pretty obvious and twitch(ish) games like Deep Rock Galactic really didn't feel great with less than 50.

I'm convinced people have a wide range of sensitivity to these things and also a wide range of how much change it takes for them to notice. 20% is the ballpark figure I normally use, but I disproved that by personally noticing and being unhappy with a 6% loss of fps.

 

[AleXXX666]

5500XT should be faster in more DX12 games as long as it doesn't run out of VRAM. It's also newer so may have longer driver support. The 1060 is a safe choice while not being much slower, and you'll be able to make games look decent with better textures for longer with the extra 2GB.

5500XT 4 GB (which is here) is very much runs out of VRAM, lol

 

[Chrispy_]

5500XT 4 GB (which is here) is very much runs out of VRAM, lol

Agreed. Have some 5500XT 8GB cards and they're fast enough (fine wine?) in modern games that I'm not needing to drop graphics settings from high/ultra. Lack of VRAM would hurt that I think.

I voted 1060 solely because I don't think 4GB was enough VRAM at 1080p for some games in 2020. In 2022 that "some games" has changed to "even more games".

 

[GreiverBlade]

6400 4gb but i doubt any of the other would be in the same price as any listed here aside the ARC (which is, well, not launched) are in the 200+ chf (heck even a RX 550X is 200+) and i can get a RX 6400 4gb for 150chf~ (only a T400 2gb is cheaper and not by much )

also that poll hit close to home, as i was looking at LP GPU to upgrade my HTPC rig (right now either in the Athlon 5350 rig in place of a GT 730 DDR3 or in a new one i7-3770 based, if the one i collected are working fine, and since i found 3 of them and they were in working state before being thrown away, i have high hopes )

4gb will be fine for me...

and assuming same price, same choice.

 

[ppn]

6400 wins starting at 158,90 and for low profile sapphire -180,79
1650 still going strong at 188,37

A lot of assumptions mainly because

1060 not on sale
1630 appeared as 6 models, now reduced to 2 starting at 201,00, bonkers
5500 exists only in one store, GGB one model at 189.99
570 not on sale so those are all second hand. and almost non existent.

 

[Lew Zealand]

5500XT 4 GB (which is here) is very much runs out of VRAM, lol

What games to you find this to be a problem in? TPU's 1080p tests here indicate that 4GB is not a problem (yet) as you don't find the 6GB 1060 suddenly being notably faster than the 5500XT or any of the other competitive 4GB cards. If anything, the 1060 has been falling further behind these other cards over time as the Turing, Polaris, and RDNA architectures seem to handle the DX12 APIs a bit faster than Pascal.

 

[B_Bang]

Easy to see the "mind share" nvidia has or people just don't pay attention to actual benchmarks that the 1060 won out over the 5500xt which is 12% faster! Nvidiot$ ride again!

 

[han32]

I prefer 1650 super..but none at above...

 

[AleXXX666]

What games to you find this to be a problem in? TPU's 1080p tests here indicate that 4GB is not a problem (yet) as you don't find the 6GB 1060 suddenly being notably faster than the 5500XT or any of the other competitive 4GB cards. If anything, the 1060 has been falling further behind these other cards over time as the Turing, Polaris, and RDNA architectures seem to handle the DX12 APIs a bit faster than Pascal.

i've played Hitman 3, and my card was choking with VRAM lol.

 

[Lew Zealand]

i've played Hitman 3, and my card was choking with VRAM lol.

Card? Game settings? Resolution? FPS? Screencap? Hows it compare to this:

 

[foo3]

What's the argument for anything other than the 1060?

5500xt, newer gen, longer driver support

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I always love charts that state higher is better but the lowest is on top of the chart

 

[chrcoluk]

Probably the GTX 1060 6gig, but since there is no direct link to the front page poll I didnt actually vote, (yes I am been lazy today is really hot).

Intel's ARC second choice, but lost out due to the lack of maturity in Intel drivers.

4gig VRAM is just too low.

 

[Outback Bronze]

Intel's ARC second choice, but lost out due to the lack of maturity in Intel drivers.

Can I even buy one? Any official reviews yet?

 

[quiq]

why not listed 6500xt

is the real same price today


1060 and 5500xt are expensive in some retailers

 

[Lew Zealand]

Can I even buy one? Any official reviews yet?

Gamers Nexus just reviewed one today:

 

[Outback Bronze]

Gamers Nexus just reviewed one today:

Looks pretty piss poor.

Be interesting how they price it.

 

[AleXXX666]

Card? Game settings? Resolution? FPS? Screencap? Hows it compare to this:

RX 5500 XT 4GB gigabyte dual fan.
there were some weird things going on with it, i should even swithch to 720p all low sometimes because of super freezes.
i don't believe i3-10105F with ultra-fast 4000+ mhz dual channel ram or mid-tier nvme drive were causing bottleneck
card temps were also at their 70-s, so ok.

 

[quiq]

RX 5500 XT 4GB gigabyte dual fan.
there were some weird things going on with it, i should even swithch to 720p all low sometimes because of super freezes.
i don't believe i3-10105F with ultra-fast 4000+ mhz dual channel ram or mid-tier nvme drive were causing bottleneck
card temps were also at their 70-s, so ok.

10105 only can handle 2666mhz

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[AleXXX666]

10105 only can handle 2666mhz

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on H410, B460, H510 yes.
Dunno 'bout H*70 tho.
B560, Z490, Z590 - push it all the way to the limits of either ram, mb, or poor i3 memory controller AsRock B560 Steel Legend, GSkill Ripjaws V 2*16 GB 4400 CL19 ram, on i3 worked no faster than 4000 i suppose (forgot already as currently using 11400F and i3 is sold out)

and, average 3200.16 ram DOES make difference to performance of this little socket caps vs "Intel specced 2666"

 

[quiq]

on H410, B460, H510 yes.
Dunno 'bout H*70 tho.
B560, Z490, Z590 - push it all the way to the limits of either ram, mb, or poor i3 memory controller AsRock B560 Steel Legend, GSkill Ripjaws V 2*16 GB 4400 CL19 ram, on i3 worked no faster than 4000 i suppose (forgot already as currently using 11400F and i3 is sold out)

and, average 3200.16 ram DOES make difference to performance of this little socket caps vs "Intel specced 2666"

yeah but the mb cost like two core i3 lol

and in some cases will perform worse than the 2666

 

[wolf]

Ah, my mistake. I just assumed the 5500XT was a notch slower than the 6500XT.

This is one of the bigger issues with the 5500XT vs 6500XT expectation, the 6500XT should outperform it, but it doesn't and even has more opportunities to be worse (lack of encoding, more limited memory interface and pci-e bus).

But yes given the natural progression of things, you would assume it handily outperform the 5500XT which sadly isn't the case, so for people not in the know, they might assume different performance levels from reality about either card.

 

[AleXXX666]

yeah but the mb cost like two core i3 lol

and in some cases will perform worse than the 2666

cheapest H410 and 510 mobos are very limited anyway, it's more about comfort then, video outputs, usb ports, ram slots, good lan or sound etc lol

 

[Vayra86]

Easy to see the "mind share" nvidia has or people just don't pay attention to actual benchmarks that the 1060 won out over the 5500xt which is 12% faster! Nvidiot$ ride again!

No man, its the 6GB that makes that card. Who cares about 10-15% perf really, that's half a tier difference, an OC on Pascal usually gets you half that number already.

4GB cards are just obsolete for gaming in 2022, simple. And the only other 6GB alternative has shite perf/drivers/availability. Plus the vast majority of 4GB alternatives is heavily handicapped beyond VRAM too. The 1060 6GB is just a full blown mid range card, no ifs or buts.

Another aspect is, the product is tried and tested, and the architecture is on equal footing with AMD's latest in many ways.

 

[Prima.Vera]

If you play in 1080p, you don't need more than 4GB anyways...