Radeon extremely low market share, only 8% in Q3 2022?

[DemonicRyzen666]

Meanwhile:

Radeon RX 6900 XT 16 GB for <630$;
Radeon RX 6800 XT 16 GB for <500$;
Radeon RX 6700 XT 12 GB for ~330$;
Radeon RX 6600 8 GB for <200$.

AMD Radeon RX 6000 GPUs Now Available At Insanely Low Prices: 6900 XT Under $630 US, 6800 XT Under $500 US, 6700 XT Under $330 US, 6600 Under $200 US (wccftech.com)

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the 6800 XT is still too high. $-130 from 6900 XT
The 6700 XT is very nice value right now. -$170 from 6800 XT

 

[Ruru]

Having more aggressive pricing works surprisingly fine even if you can't beat the opponent's highest end model. I still remember HD 4800 vs GTX 200 from 2008, AMD wasn't as fast but their pricing was way better resulting to a price/performance ratio which was way better.

Nvidia has lost it totally what it comes to pricing, looks like they realized that people will buy their overpriced cards anyway.

 

[eidairaman1]

Having more aggressive pricing works surprisingly fine even if you can't beat the opponent's highest end model. I still remember HD 4800 vs GTX 200 from 2008, AMD wasn't as fast but their pricing was way better resulting to a price/performance ratio which was way better.

Nvidia has lost it totally what it comes to pricing, looks like they realized that people will buy their overpriced cards anyway.

Yup just proves how stupid those people are

 

[Ruru]

Yup just proves how stupid those people are

I know that there's inflation etc., but I find it funny that back in the day almost nobody bought the 1000EUR Titan, but these days a 2500EUR flagship (with a cut-down GPU) isn't a problem at all.

Just wait that Nvidia launches the 4090 Ti and has an another round with the same chip with an insane pricing.

 

[eidairaman1]

I know that there's inflation etc., but I find it funny that back in the day almost nobody bought the 1000EUR Titan, but these days a 2500EUR flagship (with a cut-down GPU) isn't a problem at all.

Just wait that Nvidia launches the 4090 Ti and has an another round with the same chip with an insane pricing.

Yup while Rads are balanced cards

 

[Ruru]

Yup while Rads are balanced cards

Yeah, their raytracing performance may be behind Nvidia's, but without it, they've been pretty solid performers.

 

[ARF]

the 6800 XT is still too high. $-130 from 6900 XT
The 6700 XT is very nice value right now. -$170 from 6800 XT

Both are still terrible value. 8% market share is a very major failure by AMD and maybe the top management must think about new people in those positions.
The worst for sales Q1 and Q2 2023 are yet to come.

What can save AMD is a brand new Radeon RX 7700 XT 16 GB with RX 6900 XT performance at RTX 3060 pricing, and very good supply. NOWW!!
Only in this way the users will be attracted to buy more Radeons.

 

[Ruru]

Had to check the percentage from Steam, doesn't look that good either. 13.13% for AMD.

Steam Hardware & Software Survey

 

[ARF]

Maybe @W1zzard can change the review algorithm and instead of comparing non-ray-tracing 2160p settings for anything above RTX 2080 Ti in the perf graphs, ray-tracing settings active can be used, for example:

MSI Radeon RX 6750 XT Gaming X Trio Review - Ray Tracing | TechPowerUp

These graphs show that RX 6750 XT is slower than RTX 3060 Ti.

While the price shows:

rx 6750 xt | Newegg.com

AMD is slower and yet much more expensive.

 

[Ruru]

Maybe @W1zzard can change the review algorithm and instead of comparing non-ray-tracing 2160p settings for anything above RTX 2080 Ti in the perf graphs, ray-tracing settings active can be used, for example:

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MSI Radeon RX 6750 XT Gaming X Trio Review - Ray Tracing | TechPowerUp

These graphs show that RX 6750 XT is slower than RTX 3060 Ti.

While the price shows:

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rx 6750 xt | Newegg.com

AMD is slower and yet much more expensive.

Refurb card. Also that looks like cherrypicking to me.

 

[ARF]

Refurb card. Also that looks like cherrypicking to me.

How is cherrypicking? Calculate the averages MSI Radeon RX 6750 XT Gaming X Trio Review - Ray Tracing | TechPowerUp at 2160p RT on and show us!

 

[Ruru]

How is cherrypicking? Calculate the averages MSI Radeon RX 6750 XT Gaming X Trio Review - Ray Tracing | TechPowerUp at 2160p RT on and show us!

I said it already that AMD is behind what it comes to raytracing performance. But there's us who don't care about raytracing.

 

[ARF]

I said it already that AMD is behind what it comes to raytracing performance. But there's us who don't care about raytracing.

You don't, but 88% of the market do.

 

[Ruru]

You don't, but 88% of the market do.

I suppose I belong to that 88%, yet I have a card (1080 Ti) without HW raytracing capabilities.

edit: and I have a Radeon card on my 2nd PC so I have a card from both camps.

 

[ARF]

I suppose I belong to that 88%, yet I have a card (1080 Ti) without HW raytracing capabilities.

No, you are out of these 88% because those are the current sales in Q3 2022.

Refurb card.

Does it work? Check.
Does AMD offer refurbished cards? No, it's AMD's problem.

 

[mama]

How is cherrypicking? Calculate the averages MSI Radeon RX 6750 XT Gaming X Trio Review - Ray Tracing | TechPowerUp at 2160p RT on and show us!

Raytracing? On a 3060Ti? Why? That's not a feature - it's a crushing weight.

 

[eidairaman1]

Refurb card. Also that looks like cherrypicking to me.

It is, this guy's a ninny, abandon ship

 

[Nordic]

AMD's partners have had refurbished gpu's before. That is not an apples to apples comparison.

I bought that exact msi 6750 xt this week. The cheapest 3060 ti I could find was $399.99. If you don't care about ray tracing, and I do not whatsoever right now, then the 6750 xt offers fantastic price to performance. Only the 6600, 6600 xt, and 6650 xt offer even better performance per dollar. Meanwhile the only Nvidia 3000 series with decent performance per dollar is the 3060 ti.

 

[Icon Charlie]

the 6800 XT is still too high. $-130 from 6900 XT
The 6700 XT is very nice value right now. -$170 from 6800 XT

Except This week on Newegg before and during Black Friday Prices on certain video cards increased. By as much as $100.00 So screw that. I can wait.

 

[Bomby569]

Having owned several AMD cards (more then Nvidia in fact, mostly because price obviously) what they need is to improve their shitty drivers. At this point i will happily pay more for a Nvidia card just to avoid all the problems i had in the past, especially with the absolute dog shit 5700xt disaster

 

[ARF]

If you don't care about ray tracing

This is not a matter of whether you have a choice or not. Future game engines will incorporate it directly and you will have no choice to ignore it, or deactivate it.

Having owned several AMD cards (more then Nvidia in fact, mostly because price obviously) what they need is to improve their shitty drivers. At this point i will happily pay more for a Nvidia card just to avoid all the problems i had in the past, especially with the absolute dog shit 5700xt disaster

Such failures like the RX 5700 XT which in fact was abandoning the super high end parts of the market, and before it Radeon R9 Fury X 4 GB HBM and Radeon RX Vega 64 only show that Radeon is a second-tier graphics card brand. It's perfectly understandable why the market share now is miserable 8%.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

This is not a matter of whether you have a choice or not. Future game engines will incorporate it directly and you will have no choice to ignore it, or deactivate it.



Such failures like the RX 5700 XT which in fact was abandoning the super high end parts of the market, and before it Radeon R9 Fury X 4 GB HBM and Radeon RX Vega 64 only show that Radeon is a second-tier graphics card brand. It's perfectly understandable why the market share now is miserable 8%.

It's like the console market doesn't exist.
Games are made for consoles then ported to your favourite hardware.
So they're Made to run on AMD hardware then ported to pc.

This just an ARF shit on AMD thread then.

Because your sounding like a shill at this point.

It's shitposting like this whole thread that pushes the envelope on Nvidia sales IMHO.

And my vega64 is sticking one finger up at you while displaying No issues in games unlike my Nvidia 2060 with it's all lighting through all walls on the latest COD game.

 

[defaultluser]

two REASONS:

1 (universal)their lowest-end cards are castrated 64-bit wastes of silicon, and despite eyherium stake, there's still plenty of profitable mining coin to continue purchasing 3060s
2. (me specifically)NVIDIA offers fast-sync(universal low-latency triple-buffer in the driver, instead of AMD requiring you to source a freesync display to get tear-free game-play!)

 

[ARF]

It's like the console market doesn't exist.

Get your nerves come down a bit, think again and come again to spout nonsense, maybe improved.

 

[Bomby569]

It's like the console market doesn't exist.
Games are made for consoles then ported to your favourite hardware.
So they're Made to run on AMD hardware then ported to pc.

This just an ARF shit on AMD thread then.

Because your sounding like a shill at this point.

It's shitposting like this whole thread that pushes the envelope on Nvidia sales IMHO.

And my vega64 is sticking one finger up at you while displaying No issues in games unlike my Nvidia 2060 with it's all lighting through all walls on the latest COD game.

AMD obviously doesn't do drivers for consoles.