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best oc phenom mobo?

Enlighten me as to how you would trip the TLB then.

Also, did you know the C2D line may or may not shut down when the chip passes the T-junction? Not that you should ever push it that far, but it's been reported by intel. In fact, if you email them and ask for a list of errata for the C2D line, they might even give you a copy of it.

Errata is part of every processor ever made. The TLB is none of your concern, as with many hundreds of other pointless errata found over the years.

c2d errata list Intel stopped listing it publicly sometime this year, luckily some good people took a snapshot of it.
 
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Enlighten me as to how you would trip the TLB then.

Also, did you know the C2D line may or may not shut down when the chip passes the T-junction? Not that you should ever push it that far, but it's been reported by intel. In fact, if you email them and ask for a list of errata for the C2D line, they might even give you a copy of it.

Errata is part of every processor ever made. The TLB is none of your concern, as with many hundreds of other pointless errata found over the years.

c2d errata list Intel stopped listing it publicly sometime this year, luckily some good people took a snapshot of it.

Ok that is all well and good but there is no way you can convince me to get a Phenom . they just are not worth the hassle to me . so errata and TLB aside they are not worth it at all . not when a Q6600 can over clock higher and out perform them all!
 
That's a more than legit reason for me. Thank you good sir.
 
(smiles) i thought you were a better man then that trick.... just buy the fuchn mag and you all will see... I'm done with this lame thread....l8r peeps:banghead:
 
(smiles) i thought you were a better man then that trick.... just buy the fuchn mag and you all will see... I'm done with this lame thread....l8r peeps:banghead:

Why do I need to get a mag to tell me what you know nothing about ?
First off you need to put up or shut up ! there is no proof that a Phenom quad core is a tri core ! you make us sound stupid and although I may not be a the smartest man alive I know for a fact (some thing you are not give any one ) that the Phenoms now being put out are true QUAD CORE CPU's ! if you have any prof against this ( and I know you don't ) then provide it to us now ! :slap: You are the LAME one not any one els here ! :nutkick:
 
ok trick i'll be sure not to post to any of your dumb ass comments.... later little man:nutkick:
 
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there you go dumb ass..... read it

hey I just want to let you know, the current Phenoms out now are quad cores, they are gonna release a tri core version this year. So ahh do all of us a favor and please, know what your talking about before you open your mouth, and chill out with the swear words and just try not to be rude, Thats just childish and ridiculous
 
hey I just want to let you know, the current Phenoms out now are quad cores, they are gonna release a tri core version this year. So ahh do all of us a favor and please, know what your talking about before you open your mouth, and chill out with the swear words and just try not to be rude, Thats just childish and ridiculous

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sure np bud... have a great night:toast:

Thanks for being respectful about it, Im new here, but I still know my stuff and theres no reason to put down someone, there just here to learn, just like you and I
 
lol thanks for uploading that.

techpowerup.org is down:ohwell:
 

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Click my signature and look how bad the Phenom 9600 sucks in performance :). This one is limited because the board has no voltage increase atm... but it is not to shabby imo.

Now I will admit paying full price the Q6600 is the way to go, but my board and processor was under $300.

I hate the TLB errata thing, AMD shot their selves in the foot. If they had not told anybody, nobody would have ever known.
 
Click my signature and look how bad the Phenom 9600 sucks in performance :). This one is limited because the board has no voltage increase atm... but it is not to shabby imo.

Now I will admit paying full price the Q6600 is the way to go, but my board and processor was under $300.

I hate the TLB errata thing, AMD shot their selves in the foot. If they had not told anybody, nobody would have ever known.

Ok not to burst your bubble but look at my 3dmark06 score and you will see some thing . I smoke yours first off ( JK) .
38ghz3dmark06cy4.jpg


If you look close you can see that your Quad core CPU is only 200 points higher than mine !
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4772347

So this is what I have to say a C2D E6750 Clocked to 3.8Ghz will perform 2% lower than a Quad core AMD Phenom ! This is why I am saying AMD sucks ! you should be out performing mine by 50 - 100% not 2% . ( forgive me if I am getting this % stuff all wrong but 200 point for a Quad core is just not enough for me to justify going to a Phenom when I know a Q6600 will get me 500 to 700 more points over my C2D .

@fullinfusion Calling me names is not going to prove your point . I could care less what you call me it is a sign of your low self esteem , Do you feel better now ? I hope so . I just want you to know that you are wrong there are at this time no Phenoms running on 3 cores they are true Quad core CPU's and for you to tell me I am wrong is not right ! and to call me names when you are wrong is just childish . sorry if I offended you to the point you had to resort to being a 5 year old ! But you can't prove us all here wrong . That thing you put up did not prove me or any one els here wrong . what you failed to see is that AMD is PLANING on a tri core CPU Phenom they are not NOT NOT !! putting out the tri core Phenom at this time so they are in fact putting out Quad core Phenoms right now ! what does this mean ? well simply put all Phenoms that are out for sale RIGHT NOW ARE TRUE QUAD CORE CPU's !
Thank you fullinfusion for calling me names I hope that you feel better now .
 
Just stepping in with some more test results.


Benchmarks @default clocks (HD3870, 2GB PC2-6400, Vista):
BAPco Sysmark 2007 Rendering | Cinebench | 3DMark05 | 3DMark06 | Quake4 | Splinter Cell | World in Conflict | Call of Juarez | CPU Power Consumption

Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 109 | 7397 | 14675 | 10875 | 203 | 118 | 48 | 35 | 121W
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 102 | 7333 | 14990 | 10706 | 202 | 121 | 50 | 38 | 96W
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 105 | 5005 | 16173 | 10342 | 200 | 121 | 49 | 37 | 82W

Source: c´t 2/2008
 
there you go dumb ass..... read it

Please refrain from using that tone in this forum.

It is open discussion facts and opinions not open flaming where you say what you want I say what I want and we curse eacother to death intill the thead is locked.

You can get you're same point across without that tone and the forums will be better for it. Nobody learns and not much is accomplished the other way ;)
 
Just stepping in with some more test results.


Benchmarks @default clocks (HD3870, 2GB PC2-6400, Vista):
BAPco Sysmark 2007 Rendering | Cinebench | 3DMark05 | 3DMark06 | Quake4 | Splinter Cell | World in Conflict | Call of Juarez | CPU Power Consumption

Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 109 | 7397 | 14675 | 10875 | 203 | 118 | 48 | 35 | 121W
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 102 | 7333 | 14990 | 10706 | 202 | 121 | 50 | 38 | 96W
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 105 | 5005 | 16173 | 10342 | 200 | 121 | 49 | 37 | 82W

Source: c´t 2/2008

Not sure how to read this . :banghead:
 
Benchmarks @Default clocks (HD3870, 2GB PC2-6400, Vista)


BAPco Sysmark 2007 Rendering
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 109
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 102
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 105

Cinebench
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 7397
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 7333
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 5005

3DMark05
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 14675
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 14990
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 16173

3DMark06
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 10875
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 10706
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 10342

Quake4
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600:203
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 202
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 200

Splinter Cell
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600:118
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600:121
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+:121

World in Conflict
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 48
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 50
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 49

Call of Juarez
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 35
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 38
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 37

CPU Power Consumption
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 121W
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 96W
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 82W
 
Loos like a dual core 600+ is better off than a Quad core Phenom to me .
What I mean is why would you want to get a 2% increase in performance by getting a Phenom 4 core when you can get 50% by getting a Q6600 ? it just doesn't add up IMHO.
And it can't be the power usage as it seems like it take more to run the Phenom than the dual core .
I stand behind what I say the Phenom is a total FLOP it sucks !

You can view all my score of most all the popular benchmarks here and compair it to the Phenom I bet you will find I am killing it !
http://compsupportforums.com/index.php?showtopic=97
 
If you look close you can see that your Quad core CPU is only 200 points higher than mine !
http://service.futuremark.com/compare?3dm06=4772347

So this is what I have to say a C2D E6750 Clocked to 3.8Ghz will perform 2% lower than a Quad core AMD Phenom ! This is why I am saying AMD sucks ! you should be out performing mine by 50 - 100% not 2% . ( forgive me if I am getting this % stuff all wrong but 200 point for a Quad core is just not enough for me to justify going to a Phenom when I know a Q6600 will get me 500 to 700 more points over my C2D .

For one, I agree the Phenom is not a good upgrade at typical pricing.(not sure about the BE yet) I paid ~$290 for my board and processor. $199 for the processor shipped, vs $189 for an e6750. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115029 I grant you lower power consumption.

In arguments of the performance, yes the Q6600 will smash the Phenom. In arguments of comparing the e6750; you have 7.6ghz and I have 9.84. I should have ~23% more than you at this clock (2.46 not 2.57 like the 3dmark shows) and so I only have 6% fair enough.

No I don't claim the Phenom as fantastic, the q6600 is a much better deal.
 
(smiles) just read the mag and you will see

*quote editted for content and tone*

have a quick read yourself and youll see that they are reffering to the upcoming phenom tri-core CPU's

:toast:
 
To complete the list...

Benchmarks @default clocks (HD3870, 2GB PC2-6400, Vista)


BAPco Sysmark 2007 Rendering
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 109
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 102
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 105
Intel X38 Gigabyte X38-DQ6 & Q6600: 141

Cinebench
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 7397
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 7333
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 5005
Intel X38 Gigabyte X38-DQ6 & Q6600: 8569

3DMark05
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 14675
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 14990
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 16173
Intel X38 Gigabyte X38-DQ6 & Q6600: 14554

3DMark06
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 10875
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 10706
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 10342
Intel X38 Gigabyte X38-DQ6 & Q6600: 11412

Quake4
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 203
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 202
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 200
Intel X38 Gigabyte X38-DQ6 & Q6600: 222

Splinter Cell
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 118
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 121
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 121
Intel X38 Gigabyte X38-DQ6 & Q6600: 125

World in Conflict
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 48
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 50
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 49
Intel X38 Gigabyte X38-DQ6 & Q6600: 61

Call of Juarez
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 35
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 38
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 37
Intel X38 Gigabyte X38-DQ6 & Q6600: 39

CPU Power Consumption
Nforce 590SLI Asus M3A32-MVP Deluxe & Ph. 9600: 121W
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Phenom 9600: 96W
AMD 790X Gigabyte MA790X-DS4 & Athl X2 6000+: 82W
Intel X38 Gigabyte X38-DQ6 & Q6600: 174W


AMD´s winner would be the Athlon X2 6400+ for sure. ;)
 
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