Vista not as bad as people say

[Wile E]

Tbh I don't find gaining 50mb advantageous since vista uses the RAM efficiently

Well, in his case, that's ram that isn't used advantageously. At only 50MB, it isn't attributed to Superfetch, so that's 50MB that the OS was using full time. Not the kind that gets dumped for a memory hungry app.

 

[Mussels]

I tweak a few things off on my systems. sidebar, UAC... and one or two services if i feel like it.

Mostly, vista is great - vista uses more ram, the more ram you have. I had it using 250MB of ram on a 1GB system, and it uses about 800MB ram on a 4GB system - vista aims to use 1/4 of your ram, with the rest superfetch - superfetch ram drops instantly, while the other stuff needs to be paged out. but hey, 3GB is enough for most of my games, so i dont mind.

 

[candle_86]

I just run Vista Lite, get the tool online and make a copy of your vista with all the useless crap pulled, i did the same thing with my XP disc, all the crap i dont like i dont even have.

 

[Wile E]

Yeah, I nLite all my XP installs, but the last time I used vLite, it screwed up the install. Not all updates would work, and a few other bugs. Was waiting for them to get some of the issues ironed out before I gave it another shot.

 

[Mussels]

same on Vlite. I made one, but some updates wouldnt go in. I plan on remaking one soon, with less removed - just (some) drivers and languages.

 

[ex_reven]

Im doing one as we speak. Never used it before.
Only ever used Nlite for XP and my RAID drivers.

 

[Guarana]

Yeah, Vistaborg is released. It was actually deved from the beta version of vista and has been tweaked ever since. It's a pretty good version of vista that isn't so resource-heavy and that can actually out perform regular vista. The only problem however is that it's a third party OS and could go unsupported at a moments notice.

 

[Error 404]

Whats Vistaborg? Sounds slightly evil.
vLite worked fine for me, as they've released an updated one recently. I vLited my version of Vista so that it only had the drivers I needed for my laptop. Unfortunately, it didn't have my sound card driver, so I had to hunt down one for XP on the net, which works fine.
And 50 MB of RAM not being used is about 10% of my total RAM. I've also disabled Superfetch, as I've heard it slows down Vista quite a bit on low powered systems.

 

[BumbRush]

vista borg is acctualy just a mod'd version of vista, just ax xp borg is just a moded version of xp, theres also xp black editon, performance edition, gamer edition, i could go on and on, alot of crappy moded versions of windows mostly done with nlite.

 

[Mussels]

vista borg is acctualy just a mod'd version of vista, just ax xp borg is just a moded version of xp, theres also xp black editon, performance edition, gamer edition, i could go on and on, alot of crappy moded versions of windows mostly done with nlite.

seen so many of them, and people using them - and most of them are crap with bugs and problems. Whats so special about the borg flavour?

 

[francis511]

Yeah, Vistaborg is released. It was actually deved from the beta version of vista and has been tweaked ever since. It's a pretty good version of vista that isn't so resource-heavy and that can actually out perform regular vista. The only problem however is that it's a third party OS and could go unsupported at a moments notice.

Is it on the I$o-tek website ? I couldn`t find it ?

 

[ex_reven]

I used Vlite and it didnt create a bootable disk?

I customised the install and then clicked finish and it did all its processing and then it stopped when it finished. There was no "burn disk" option or anything?

There was the option to create a bootable ISO, but in the past I havnt used ISO's to boot from nlite disks (it was just a direct burn), so Im not sure. Is bootable ISO what I want?

 

[francis511]

I used Vlite and it didnt create a bootable disk?

I customised the install and then clicked finish and it did all its processing and then it stopped when it finished. There was no "burn disk" option or anything?

There was the option to create a bootable ISO, but in the past I havnt used ISO's to boot from nlite disks (it was just a direct burn), so Im not sure. Is bootable ISO what I want?

Yeah , then just use nero or whatever

 

[ex_reven]

ahk so i create the iso then use nero to burn.

sweet.

 

[Guarana]

Borg is essentially a lited version of Vista with less of the addons system hogs that vista contains. Good for gamers and decent for your everyday computing uses, but like I said there's always the risk of it becoming unsupported. You can get the same outcome if you lite your version of vista and remove resource hogs that you find yourself, but borg does it all for you just incase you miss something or aren't that computer literate.

It's another debate I have in my next build, but that's not going to happen until august when I get back home on leave, so I got alot of time to think about it.

 

[Mussels]

Borg is essentially a lited version of Vista with less of the addons system hogs that vista contains. Good for gamers and decent for your everyday computing uses, but like I said there's always the risk of it becoming unsupported. You can get the same outcome if you lite your version of vista and remove resource hogs that you find yourself, but borg does it all for you just incase you miss something or aren't that computer literate.

It's another debate I have in my next build, but that's not going to happen until august when I get back home on leave, so I got alot of time to think about it.

well i'm interested to hear someone name some of these resource hogs. OFC languages and drivers take disk space, but i cant see them taking up ram or CPU time for example.

 

[francis511]

I was using nlite & I noticed that there is a direct burn option as well

 

[jonmcc33]

More of a general software thread than general hardware

Not all people are quite as lucky. It took the third install of Vista for me to accept it, mainly because it wasn't cooperating with my wifi network. It seems that since SP1 was released, my "Local Access Only" problem has dissapeard, and I am now satisfied with it as well

Worked fine for me on wireless with WPA2. Sounds more like a driver problem from your wireless adapter. Don't blame Vista for that.

 

[ex_reven]

I was using nlite & I noticed that there is a direct burn option as well

Yeah thats what i always used.
So burning iso's is new to me.

 

[Guarana]

well i'm interested to hear someone name some of these resource hogs. OFC languages and drivers take disk space, but i cant see them taking up ram or CPU time for example.

I'll have to do some research but I'll find something.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Yeah, I nLite all my XP installs, but the last time I used vLite, it screwed up the install. Not all updates would work, and a few other bugs. Was waiting for them to get some of the issues ironed out before I gave it another shot.

The last time I used vLite, my OS was completely unstable even at stock settings. I had to reformat and install the full version of Vista.

 

[thoughtdisorder]

Yeah thats what i always used.
So burning iso's is new to me.

Is that u in your avvy dude?

 

[DaedalusHelios]

Is that u in your avvy dude?

I think it is. He looks like your average Joe. You are not making fun of him right?

He looks Dutch. But I have never been to Australia so maybe thats the norm.

 

[Mussels]

I think it is. He looks like your average Joe. You are not making fun of him right?

He looks Dutch. But I have never been to Australia so maybe thats the norm.

he could be australian. He could also have an echidna for hair.

 

[ex_reven]

Is that u in your avvy dude?

Yes tis me.

I think it is. He looks like your average Joe. You are not making fun of him right?

He looks Dutch. But I have never been to Australia so maybe thats the norm.

Yes I am average Joe. With not so average mind (think more awesome, and more violent )

Im not dutch but yes that comment has been made many times by people Ive met. Some guy said I was Aryan once, was kinda weird.

he could be australian. He could also have an echidna for hair.

Yes. And Yes.
lol.