AGP video card - NO SIGNAL

[hoax32]

HI TPUF!!!
I recently purchased a MSI NVidia GeForce4 MX440 AGP 8x.
I thought, that its gonna be back warts compatible with my MSI-6577 4x AGP board.
I received the card today in the MailBox for only $8!
But my happyness would soon find an end...
When i tryed to start my computer - there was no video output!!!
Well i tryed to reset bios / unplug / different monitor / take out all extra pci cards.
NOTHING WANTS TO WORK!!!!

I was looking for AGP settings in the bios, but there was no such thing.
Maybe 1 of u can helpo we - how ot get it to work.
PLZZZZ!!!!


IF SOME ONE FIXES IT - REWARD OF $2 VIA PAYPAL!!!

 

[Techtu]

I know it's only a very small picture but if you look closely you can see it say's ... "Primary Video..." my guess is the rest of what say's is "display" if I'm correct if you select that you should be able to see the other options of the selected item, yes? now, here you should be able to change your display adaptor from onboard to "AGP" hope this helps.

Opps, EDIT: here's the pic

 

[hoax32]

it doesnt show any picture at all
the monitor only goes into stand by mode and when i turn on the computer it wont awake from stand by but i can hear the hard drive loading the os (xp)
My old AGP 4x radeon 7000 works perfectly

 

[Techtu]

Pic added, sorry about that. Anyway's that should be a picture of your BIOS layout yes? So the 7th from the bottom on the list on the left, like i said it says Primary Video... you should be able to select your AGP port from there.

 

[temp02]

Intel® 845 chipset supports the latest graphics devices through
1.5V AGP 4X interface. No 3.3V AGP 2X interface is supported.

in MSI MS-6577 v2.X user manual

Maybe that card can't scale back from 8x to 4x, just a thought but it's the only one I can think of, since no AGP card with bus speed > 2x uses 3.3v anymore. And since your Radeon 7000 (still have one too btw) works the card is either faulty or does nor work on this board.

 

[Techtu]

in MSI MS-6577 v2.X user manual

Maybe that card can't scale back from 8x to 4x, just a thought but it's the only one I can think of, since no AGP card with bus speed > 2x uses 3.3v anymore. And since your Radeon 7000 (still have one too btw) works the card is either faulty or does nor work on this board.

AFAIK that GPU is backward compatible between AGP x8, x4 and x2.

 

[hoax32]

ohhhh man damn it!!!
i already played a little arround with the sisplay settings - but nothing works!!!
By the way does anyone have a radeon 9000 or 9200 for cheep?

 

[gunsmoke]

can you not boot in safe mood on windows xp by pressing f8 on boot up
see if you get any video output your bios shod pic up any agp card installed
by Defolt

 

[Techtu]

can you not boot in safe mood on windows xp by pressing f8 on boot up
see if you get any video output your bios shod pic up any agp card installed
by Defolt

Would be ideal if he could see the boot screen but as far as I'm aware he is unable to see even that.

It's possibly a dud card, @OP did you order the card from eBay or some other similar site?

 

[Batou1986]

return it if the system works fine with one card and not the other its likely faulty especial considering its age

 

[hoax32]

Yeah i ordered it from ebay!
Everybody who ordered one said it worked perfectly!
And the seller is top rated!!!

THE SCREAN IS JUST DEAD!!!
Only the fan on the MX440 AGP 8x spins - thats it!
Anny one with an answer?

 

[Techtu]

Yeah i ordered it from ebay!
Everybody who ordered one said it worked perfectly!
And the seller is top rated!!!

THE SCREAN IS JUST DEAD!!!
Only the fan on the MX440 AGP 8x spins - thats it!
Anny one with an answer?

I'd send the seller an Email listing your problem and the solutions you have tried and then ask him that you want to either return the item for a refund or a replacement.

One last thing... do you have the BIOS speaker connected? If so this could point to the problem directly.

 

[hoax32]

I got NEWS!!!
The card worked in my sisters computer!!!
WHAT IS GOING ON?!?!?!?!
Her comuter is even older!!!!! (Athlon XP 1800+)
My computer has bios speakers onboard so there always on, but i never here them.
The only time, i hear them is when i enter the wrong password in the login.(a short beeep)

 

[brandonwh64]

Probably a motherboard capability issue

 

[scaminatrix]

Got the latest bios?
I'm guessing your board is an OEM from a HP? HP Pavilion?

EDIT: Definately not compatibility issue, there are other people with the same mobo and gfx card on the webz.

 

[_JP_]

Have you tried booting up without the card, going to the BIOS and turn off the On-board Graphics card? Just wondering...

 

[scaminatrix]

Sorry for double post; just found this:

MX440 8x to run at 4x
..... I encountered trouble while trying to set the AGP mode to 4x. It just wouldn't allow me to run the card at AGP 4x. I made contacts with Ryan at XFX and he was kind enough to help me with the problem. Apparently, if the card has AGP 3.0 specifications and the board is able to recognize it, it will force the card to run at the specification. In order to run the card at AGP 4x mode, you would have to "mod" the card with some small pieces of scotch tape. I tried with electrical tape and it didn't work.
All you have to do is tape the third and eleventh contacts and that will make the motherboard unable to recognize the AGP 3.0 specification. This will make the video card to run at AGP 4x.

Source

 

[Techtu]

Sorry for double post; just found this:


Source

Nice find! .. and you didn't double post either

 

[_JP_]

It is a nice find, but I've run a Radeon 9200 card, which are also AGP 8x 3.0 spec, on AGP 2x (3.3v) boards (for example) and didn't had to do any taping. That seems to be an issue with that particular motherboard, rather than the card itself.
Besides, as the text you quoted says,

if the card has AGP 3.0 specifications and the board is able to recognize it, it will force the card to run at the specification.

The motherboard in question here does not recognize the AGP 3.0 spec, it is limited to AGP 4x which is 2.0 spec.
Please, hoax32, do try what I've said earlier and report back to us. That will eliminate some of the possible problems.

 

[scaminatrix]

It is a nice find, but I've run a Radeon 9200 card, which are also AGP 8x 3.0 spec, on AGP 2x (3.3v) boards (for example) and didn't had to do any taping, that seems to be an issue with that particular motherboard, rather than the card itself.

Agreed, I'm thinking it's the board too. Might be because it's an OEM board (it's been used in a lot of OEM PC's from what google's told me). Hopefully it's something we can work around.

 

[_JP_]

Agreed, I'm thinking it's the board too. Might be because it's an OEM board (it's been used in a lot of OEM PC's from what google's told me). Hopefully it's something we can work around.

My guess is the same as yours, but not because of the fact that it is an OEM board, rather because the IGP may be getting in the way. It needs to be turned off so that the computer will use the AGP card. Older motherboards didn't do this automatically. At least, for now, I think the problem resides there.

 

[theonedub]

Techtu already mentioned to try disabling the onboard audio, on top of that he was able to get his older Radeon 7000 AGP working in the computer fine- so I think disabling the onboard GPU is not the issue.

 

[Techtu]

My guess is the same as yours, but not because of the fact that it is an OEM board, rather because the IGP may be getting in the way. It needs to be turned off so that the computer will use the AGP card. Older motherboards didn't do this automatically.

In my first post here I posted a (very small) photo of a screen from his motherboard BIOS, it seem's he does have the option to change from onboard and AGP but it just isn't accepting the card, I got a feeling scaminatrix's find may be the only way of getting the card to work on his system even though that board is suppose to support AGP x2/4/8.

 

[scaminatrix]

Anyone experienced an OEM BIOS stopping the use of x8 card when the retail version of the board supports x8?

 

[_JP_]

Techtu already mentioned to try disabling the onboard audio, on top of that he was able to get his older Radeon 7000 AGP working in the computer fine- so I think disabling the onboard GPU is not the issue.

Yes, Techtu mentioned the on-board GPU (not audio) 1st, but it seems the OP didn't went that way. Mainly because OP said:

it doesnt show any picture at all

It's really a matter of where you plug the VGA connector.

In my first post here I posted a (very small) photo of a screen from his motherboard BIOS, it seem's he does have the option to change from onboard and AGP but it just isn't accepting the card, I got a feeling scaminatrix's find may be the only way of getting the card to work on his system even though that board is suppose to support AGP x2/4/8.

Scaminatrix find is a way to solve the issue, but I'm fairly certain that this case does not apply. Read what is written there, or just what I quoted and you'll see. The examples of this board that I'm finding do not support above AGP 4x spec 2.0 1.5v, so the issue described in that article doesn't apply. Also because it isn't the same motherboard, chipset, BIOS, socket and, therefore, processor.