AMD Comments on EC Ruling that Intel Violated EU Law, Harmed Consumers

[Wile E]

you are really like wilee coyote, you dont learn from your errors

I haven't made any errors in this thread yet.

 

[fullinfusion]

you are really like wilee coyote, you dont learn from your errors

Dude Ask Chickin Patty!!! I ran an HD Encode Against his I7 @4GHz against my 940 3.7ish GHz clock.... he even said he dosnt know why the AMD got better marks in test #1 than the I7.... like i said.... This is real world.... not a test on some other site that just goes for whatever they go for cpu to cpu....

 

[Wile E]

Dude Ask Chickin Patty!!! I ran an HD Encode Against his I7 @4GHz against my 940 3.7ish GHz clock.... he even said he dosnt know why the AMD got better marks in test #1 than the I7.... like i said.... This is real world.... not a test on some other site that just goes for whatever they go for cpu to cpu....

Make a thread then.

 

[fullinfusion]

I haven't made any errors in this thread yet.

LOL and The Terminator Talks.... lol Wile.... its something John Henry would say!!!!

 

[mlee49]

Dude this is a great idea, a true I7 VS PII throw down. I'll put up my i7 at 4.0GHz and put up or shut up.

 

[fullinfusion]

Make a thread then.

let me look for the thread than....

 

[Wile E]

Dude this is a great idea, a true I7 VS PII throw down. I'll put up my i7 at 4.0GHz and put up or shut up.

That's what I want to see. A bench, with a common starting clip, program and settings must be displayed, as well as cpu-z and the results.

 

[fullinfusion]

dude i just looked in my Subscribed Threads and cant find it.... You remember the thread where the I7 ran against the PI? you were in it!

 

[fullinfusion]

It was an HD encode with a Chinese woman in it... an Action flik

 

[Wile E]

dude i just looked in my Subscribed Threads and cant find it.... You remember the thread where the I7 ran against the PI? you were in it!

I just don't remember that, but I am getting old. lol.

Start a new thread. Make it like a bench thread. It will attract all the nutballs. lol.

 

[Melvis]

Intel :shadedshu tsk tsk looks like they will never learn......Maybe this will wake them up a bit?

Does this mean that now AMD can sue them for damages or something? Does this open up something for AMD to get some money back that they lost over the yrs because of this?

 

[Assassin48]

I just don't remember that, but I am getting old. lol.

Start a new thread. Make it like a bench thread. It will attract all the nutballs. lol.

ill join up

You guys want me to make a thread?

what should the name be?

I7 vs PII

 

[fullinfusion]

ill join up

You guys want me to make a thread?

what should the name be?

I7 vs PII

Yeah you start it .... Im ... but Have a sweet PII chip.... just send me a link

 

[Assassin48]

http://forums.techpowerup.com/showthread.php?p=1382494#post1382494

 

[btarunr]

AMD hasnt produced a good product since the bought out ATI.

Welcome to June 2008.

the problem is that you don't understand the old architecture you are using, core 2 uses front bus, which has always being a botleneck thats why when the system is heavily taxed your sistem is not as responsive as an amd system with hypertrasport.
an amd system is smoother because is more advanced. and that's why intel copied the amd architecture.

It doesn't matter. His "old technology/copied licensed technology" setup makes him do things faster/better than what an AMD setup would offer. Look at the ends, not means.

 

[Snipermonkey2]

Never had a single latency issue while recording or mixing for albums on an Intel quad core. No pops, no anomalies whatsoever. I'd look at supporting hardware before looking at the cpu.

I'd also like to see where AMD renders faster than Intel. Not saying it isn't true, but I haven't seen it.

Hey sorry to bring up a old post now Wile E but when you run $500 audio interface where sound latency is 1-2ms you will hear pops and that program I linked you to will show the problem of latency. Since intels just couldn't talk between the cores fast enough for the audio interface it would lag out. Its a common problem in the professional audio field.

 

[Wile E]

Hey sorry to bring up a old post now Wile E but when you run $500 audio interfaces where sound latency is 1-2ms you will hear pops and that program I linked you to will show the problem of latency. Since intels just couldn't talk between the cores fast enough for the audio interface it would lag out. Its a common problem in professional audio field.

We did. It was a firepod for capture, and I can't, for the life of me, remember the external mixer we used, all done in Pro Tools, using mostly Diamond Audio plug-ins. This was all on a Q6600 based system (when they first released). Not a single latency issue, ever. No pops, no dropout, no nothing.

I still have to say it's the hardware choices, not the cpu.

 

[btarunr]

Hey sorry to bring up a old post now Wile E but when you run $500 audio interface where sound latency is 1-2ms you will hear pops and that program I linked you to will show the problem of latency. Since intels just couldn't talk between the cores fast enough for the audio interface it would lag out. Its a common problem in the professional audio field.

That's partly true. A certain program (SANDRA?) tests inter-core latency and bandwidth, where Core 2 Quad still trumps Phenom.

 

[Snipermonkey2]

We did. It was a firepod for capture, and I can't, for the life of me, remember the external mixer we used, all done in Pro Tools, using mostly Diamond Audio plug-ins. This was all on a Q6600 based system (when they first released). Not a single latency issue, ever. No pops, no dropout, no nothing.

I still have to say it's the hardware choices, not the cpu.

Well then thats amazing. I don't know if you know the company Native Instruments, but anyways my brother works for them and a bunch of his friends at work have that latency issue on all types of interfaces. Now it might be that its lagging in the PCI interface cause that unit you posted is a firewire hookup. I would have to do some more fishing to find out if its the PCI to CPU talk time with Intels thats killing it.

 

[Wile E]

Well then thats amazing. I don't know if you know the company Native Instruments, but anyways my brother works for them and a bunch of his friends at work have that latency issue on all types of interfaces. Now it might be that its lagging in the PCI interface cause that unit you posted is a firewire hookup. I would have to do some more fishing to find out if its the PCI to CPU talk time with Intels thats killing it.

I've also use the Firepod on a 2 x dual core MacPro (1st gen), with no latency issues.

But I think you could be right, it could be related to the PCI bus, we did have issues with an M-Audio card that we tried first, but it was an older model, and thought that maybe it's age was the problem. Shitty drivers or something. And, afaik, the firewire on most modern boards run thru PCIe, don't they?

 

[Snipermonkey2]

I've also use the Firepod on a 2 x dual core MacPro (1st gen), with no latency issues.

But I think you could be right, it could be related to the PCI bus, we did have issues with an M-Audio card that we tried first, but it was an older model, and thought that maybe it's age was the problem. Shitty drivers or something. And, afaik, the firewire on most modern boards run thru PCIe, don't they?

Im not sure if they run though PCIe but if they do that would explain why its faster. Also M-Audio blows in general.

 

[Wile E]

Im not sure if they run though PCIe but if they do that would explain why its faster. Also M-Audio blows in general.

lol. Agreed. We just happened to have it laying around. I think it was one of the very first 24bit models, but it was junk, so I don't remember.

 

[Snipermonkey2]

lol. Agreed. We just happened to have it laying around. I think it was one of the very first 24bit models, but it was junk, so I don't remember.

Yeah M-audio stuff is good for umm wasting your money on and or giving some one a gift that pretty much sums up the fact you hate them. Now for my interface I use a NI Kore unit and have never had issues with latency and I run it about 4-5ms live which is pretty good.

 

[Hayder_Master]

ohh, now it is scandal and shame on INTEL they don't really need this for more sells , time AMD to move forward

 

[cdawall]

Try a 8 or 12 core AMD or Intel server, where AMD just performs better due the scaling-possibilitys. The older Opteron would always perform better then a equalevent Intel-setup. Why? Because of the HT. It offers way more bandwith then Intel has with their Quad-pumped FSB.

In their latest CPU, Intel uses mostly the same technology. AMD is being more innovative. And AMD should also have a chance in CPU-world. Not just 90% dominated by Intel only. AMD was the one that kicked their asses and quit netburst-technology.

i have tried an old 16 core AMD server vs a 8 core i7 server and the intel server still ran better it has QPI and HT makes up for the core disadvantage.


oh and hypertransport isn't exactly new either its from 2001