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AMD FX "Vishera" Processor Pricing Revealed

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All I wanna know is "N" or "T" pcb.


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Could you please relate to me which variation of peyote or enhanced MaryJane you are using.
 

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Could you please relate to me which variation of peyote or enhanced MaryJane you are using.
meh. Just some thing I've been following for oh...10 years or so. :p Doesn't seem to matter with all CPUs, but AMD outs two PCBs currently that I know of, one marked witth a "T", and one marked with an "N".

Does it really matter? To normal people, no.


To those that search for the "golden egg" chips out in the wild for extreme clocking, minute differences in CPU manufacturing, including dates and such things, can seem to be important.

If AMD is smart, I personally believe they stand to benefit from opening up informationally a bit about their binning process, or even salting certain "batches" as needed.


Alas, I'd like to partake in discussion of the topic at hand, but cannot, so there ya go.
 
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meh. Just some thing I've been following for oh...10 years or so. :p Doesn't seem to matter with all CPUs, but AMD outs two PCBs currently that I know of, one marked witth a "T", and one marked with an "N".

Does it really matter? To normal people, no.


To those that search for the "golden egg" chips out in the wild for extreme clocking, minute differences in CPU manufacturing, including dates and such things, can seem to be important.

If AMD is smart, I personally believe they stand to benefit from opening up informationally a bit about their binning process, or even salting certain "batches" as needed.


Alas, I'd like to partake in discussion of the topic at hand, but cannot, so there ya go.
NDA no doubt!
 

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It was the Same during the Athlon XP days too, after week 39 of 2003 Desktop CPUs were being locked, Mobile chips were the way to go for most part. Fastest AXP Chips clocked to 2.8-3.0GHz under high voltage, no LN2 Used either

meh. Just some thing I've been following for oh...10 years or so. :p Doesn't seem to matter with all CPUs, but AMD outs two PCBs currently that I know of, one marked witth a "T", and one marked with an "N".

Does it really matter? To normal people, no.


To those that search for the "golden egg" chips out in the wild for extreme clocking, minute differences in CPU manufacturing, including dates and such things, can seem to be important.

If AMD is smart, I personally believe they stand to benefit from opening up informationally a bit about their binning process, or even salting certain "batches" as needed.


Alas, I'd like to partake in discussion of the topic at hand, but cannot, so there ya go.
 
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Vishera prices have gone down?
http://www.shopblt.com/cgi-bin/s.cgi?order_id=!ORDERID!&s_max=25&t_all=1&s_all=HKBOX

If this is true, why did AMD drop the prices B4 the release? Or these were always the price and the original leak was overpriced for early adopters.
AMD has nothing to do with pre-order pricing. Most of the places taking pre-orders are scalping their customers. I guess BLT.com decided they could make money the honest way. This is nothing new. The retailers did it with Bulldozer also. Though the p[rice at bltcom is way lower then the price Bulldozer was at even 3 months after product availability. I think AMD knew they could not get away with selling Vishera at prices above what a Intel I5 3570 was going for when its performance overall will be slightly below that level. It is priced at the level of a I-5 2500k which is a good spot for it. Overall it performs a little better than I-5 2500k in my opinion.
 
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AMD has nothing to do with pre-order pricing. Most of the places taking pre-orders are scalping their customers. I guess BLT.com decided they could make money the honest way. This is nothing new. The retailers did it with Bulldozer also. Though the p[rice at bltcom is way lower then the price Bulldozer was at even 3 months after product availability. I think AMD knew they could not get away with selling Vishera at prices above what a Intel I5 3570 was going for when its performance overall will be slightly below that level. It is priced at the level of a I-5 2500k which is a good spot for it. Overall it performs a little better than I-5 2500k in my opinion.
Yes but so long as AMD is making a profit. If they sell these at the right price, they will easily gain market share. Intel may have a faster product, but AMD's parts run just as good. This is where AMD needs to fight with.
 
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Yes but so long as AMD is making a profit. If they sell these at the right price, they will easily gain market share. Intel may have a faster product, but AMD's parts run just as good. This is where AMD needs to fight with.
You are absolutely right. They will have a thin margin on this product though. It would have been more gravy for them with a .28nm fabrication process.
 

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AMD has nothing to do with pre-order pricing. Most of the places taking pre-orders are scalping their customers. I guess BLT.com decided they could make money the honest way. This is nothing new. The retailers did it with Bulldozer also. Though the p[rice at bltcom is way lower then the price Bulldozer was at even 3 months after product availability. I think AMD knew they could not get away with selling Vishera at prices above what a Intel I5 3570 was going for when its performance overall will be slightly below that level. It is priced at the level of a I-5 2500k which is a good spot for it. Overall it performs a little better than I-5 2500k in my opinion.
reason MSRP is there from AMD is so AMD makes a profit, Retailers/etailers tag on additional unit pricing to make a profit themselves, hey they have to be able to otherwise they go out of business then
 
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reason MSRP is there from AMD is so AMD makes a profit, Retailers/etailers tag on additional unit pricing to make a profit themselves, hey they have to be able to otherwise they go out of business then
MSRP is what most retailers sell the item at it usually provides about 15-20% profit margin for the retailer.
 
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I know this is about steamroller, but wasn't piledriver supposed to be released today?
 
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Thought I caught somewhere it was held off till the 23rd.
 
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Thought I caught somewhere it was held off till the 23rd.
Yes you are correct. These delays do really suck though.
 
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Yes you are correct. These delays do really suck though.
I do not think that was a delay date. AMD never actually officially announced the launch date.
But I have heard October 23 for the past month with others claiming the 16th but with no credible proof of their claim.
 
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I truly believe this pricing , if it allows some profit, will be great for AMD getting market share. Very good strategy if they can push the chip. I do hope they have a large enough budget to get the word out.
 

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I truly believe this pricing , if it allows some profit, will be great for AMD getting market share. Very good strategy if they can push the chip. I do hope they have a large enough budget to get the word out.
this will be really pushed to OEMs, APUs too
 
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I do not think that was a delay date. AMD never actually officially announced the launch date.
But I have heard October 23 for the past month with others claiming the 16th but with no credible proof of their claim.
Originally Piledriver was suppose to be released in Q3 2012, but was pushed back to Q4 2012. But that was a while back. Things have changed :D
 
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Originally Piledriver was suppose to be released in Q3 2012, but was pushed back to Q4 2012. But that was a while back. Things have changed :D
Yes of course. I was referring to in the past 2 months AMD never publicly stated a launch date, though it appears it will be this Tuesday the 23rd.
 
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Cooling Noctua NH-D14 | Zalman CNPS10x | Coolermaster*212+
Memory Kingston KHX1866C9D3K2 |*8Gb | 8Gb
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 580 TF2 x 2 (SLI) | Sapphire Radeon 7970 + GTX 460 | Radeon 4870 1Gb
Storage Crucial M4 120gb Sata3 SSD + WD Caviar black 1Tb + 1.5Tb | WD Caviar Black 1Tb x 3 | WD Blue 500gb
Display(s) Samsung S23A700D 120hz + nVidia 3D Vision + 17" Acer secondary LCD | 40" Sony 1080p TV | Sam. 2233rz
Case Antec 1200 | Lian-Li PC-8 | Antec 302
Audio Device(s) Auzentech Prelude X-Fi + Senn. PC360 G4ME | Prelude X-Fi + Home theater | Creative HS-1200
Power Supply Corsair TX850W | Corsair TX 750 | OCZ 700
Software About 400 top-rated games. | 150 top-rated games | No games
Benchmark Scores No time for benching, I prefer gaming.
AMD's secrecy makes me nervous. Some people say Vishera will work well with Windows 8, but then there is this.
 

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
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System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
AMD's secrecy makes me nervous. Some people say Vishera will work well with Windows 8, but then there is this.
its the UI that is getting alot of people, making most not want to switch.
 
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System Name An experiment in continuous upgrading
Processor Intel Core i7 2600k @ 4.2 Ghz | Phenom II X4 965 | Phenom II X4 965
Motherboard MSI P67A-GD53 | MSI 990FXA-GD80 | Asus M4A79 Deluxe
Cooling Noctua NH-D14 | Zalman CNPS10x | Coolermaster*212+
Memory Kingston KHX1866C9D3K2 |*8Gb | 8Gb
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 580 TF2 x 2 (SLI) | Sapphire Radeon 7970 + GTX 460 | Radeon 4870 1Gb
Storage Crucial M4 120gb Sata3 SSD + WD Caviar black 1Tb + 1.5Tb | WD Caviar Black 1Tb x 3 | WD Blue 500gb
Display(s) Samsung S23A700D 120hz + nVidia 3D Vision + 17" Acer secondary LCD | 40" Sony 1080p TV | Sam. 2233rz
Case Antec 1200 | Lian-Li PC-8 | Antec 302
Audio Device(s) Auzentech Prelude X-Fi + Senn. PC360 G4ME | Prelude X-Fi + Home theater | Creative HS-1200
Power Supply Corsair TX850W | Corsair TX 750 | OCZ 700
Software About 400 top-rated games. | 150 top-rated games | No games
Benchmark Scores No time for benching, I prefer gaming.