AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT to Roll Out 8 GB GDDR6 Edition, Despite Rumors

[AusWolf]

I understand why people want more VRAM in the midrange, but I don't understand the public cry for the release of this card. No one is pointing a gun at your head to make you buy one.

Hardware manufacturers change course when (projected or real) sales numbers force them to do so, not when people cry on a forum. As long as 8 GB cards sell well, no one cares who says what here. If you want AMD and Nvidia to offer more, you'll have to stop buying their shit first.

 

[DaemonForce]

Uh yeah no. Reason that isn't going to fly is we live in a world loaded with:
Dumbass normies, day traders, sneakerheads, cryptobros and just very LARGE variety of scalpers.
TSMC "can't keep track" of where their chips end up and nvidia really doesn't care who is buying.
AMD did us a solid with the 9070XT launch but that steam engine screeched to a halt after day 6.
When you look at the sales graphs vs who has the cards, you can't turn that data into a decision.

 

[JustBenching]

I understand why people want more VRAM in the midrange, but I don't understand the public cry for the release of this card. No one is pointing a gun at your head to make you buy one.

Hardware manufacturers change course when (projected or real) sales numbers force them to do so, not when people cry on a forum. As long as 8 GB cards sell well, no one cares who says what here. If you want AMD and Nvidia to offer more, you'll have to stop buying their shit first.

But both amd and nvidia do offer more. Namely 16 gb versions of the cards.

 

[RejZoR]

"1080p low everything"

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And there's my 3070 happily running most games at 1440p high settings (or if possible, 4k with DLSS), with some slightly older games like Forza Horizon 4 running as high as 4k120.

Yeah, today. When RT becomes a requirement, that alone increases memory usage. Games will also become more demanding naturally as time goes by. How many people buy new graphic card every year or every 2 years? I'm enthusiast and last one I bought was 5 years ago, because I couldn't justify how little they progressed and how much they cost. And I still dumped almost 1000€ into it. People who upgrade every 5 years and pay 300-400€ for graphic cards have that timeframe dramatically more stretched than I had with a high end card...

 

[Rover4444]

Then don't, thank god 16gb cards exist for you. And thank god 8gb cards also exist so I can buy the 8gb models since I don't need more vram. We are both happy, right?

No. The mere existence of an 8GB card on the exact same die means that stock for the 16GB is halved if both are produced at the same rate. And since stock is practically nonexistent right now due to demand, the 8GB card drives up the price of it's 16GB variant even further.

Plus, since these cards use the denser VRAM chips by default on the 8GB variants we get gimped on memory bandwidths too on 16GB variants because they have to clamshell the memory.

If they just used denser modules and upcharged us the difference in cost of VRAM it'd be one thing but that's not what they're doing here. Not to mention the environmental impact all this e-waste creates.

You can't play a lot of games with just 4gb but why would I mind if a 4gb version existed? I really don't care, let them 2gb version for all I care. If people wanna buy it, why would I bothered, as long as the version I want is also available? Doesn't make sense to me.

They should make an 8GB version of the 6050 for $600 and downcharge $200 for the 2GB version then never have stock for the 8GB version so it's actually $800.

Using that sliver of common sense the 9070xt is DOA, since it carries the same vram buffer while being 3 times as fast as a card from 6 years ago (radeon VII). Right? Actually scratch the 3 times fast fast, it's probably 50 times as fast in RT workloads. Yet, it has the same vram buffer...

It definitely needs more VRAM, but I don't think 50 times more HBM2 on the same board would physically be possible. 24GB would be good though.

and shot straight to the moon during a period of peak Etherium mining...~$450ish.
Not sure why people keep leaving that part out. The 480/580 was too interesting.

During the first mining boom I'd say cards were regularly under $300 for AIB models and the 480 wasn't really affected until the 580 was released. They were also in stock, something these big companies are suddenly incapable of doing today. Miners really wanted the base 570s honestly, 4GB of VRAM wasn't a problem yet.

 

[JustBenching]

No. The mere existence of an 8GB card on the exact same die means that stock for the 16GB is halved if both are produced at the same rate. And since stock is practically nonexistent right now due to demand, the 8GB card drives up the price of it's 16GB variant even further.

Stock seems fine, could find both cards at stock day one at MSRP prices, which is unheard off lately for new gpu releases. Stock will follow sales anyways, if nobody is buying 8gb cards then nvidia will move production to the 16gb.

But with that all said, I guess I should be complaining about 16gb cards existing cause they drive up the prices of the 8gb model. So I guess I should hope amd only makes an 8gb version of the 9060xt.

They should make an 8GB version of the 6050 for $600 and downcharge $200 for the 2GB version then never have stock for the 8GB version so it's actually $800.

Nobody would want to buy a 6050 at 800$ so no, prices wouldn't be that high.

It definitely needs more VRAM, but I don't think 50 times more HBM2 on the same board would physically be possible. 24GB would be good though.

And what's wrong with the 9600xt having twice the vram of the rx580 4gb? Cause that was his point.

 

[Rover4444]

Stock seems fine

Liar. I'm not responding further.

 

[Mrgravia]

Agreed, I'm using a 3060ti on a 3440x1440 monitor.

Using a 6700 10 gb, I usually get pretty good framerates. ES4 remaster was the first time I found performance really lacking, down to the 30's at high.

 

[JustBenching]

Using a 6700 10 gb, I usually get pretty good framerates. ES4 remaster was the first time I found performance really lacking, down to the 30's at high.

I'm struggling in ES4 with a 4090 so yeah..

 

[Mrgravia]

Liar. I'm not responding further.

For 5060 and 5070 it's true though. Heck, some 5060ti are down to MSRP these days. I could walk into microcenter right now and buy a PNY 5060TI 16 gig for $429. also have some $489 AIB ones in stock.

9070 and 9070XT show in stock, still at a markup, but they go very very quickly.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Nvidia has a LP 5060 8gb in the works.

IF that's true, it would be nice.

A LP 9060 could still happen maybe. He was talking specifically about the 9060XT. I'm pretty sure leaks still suggest a 9060 might happen.

Maybe. If the power profile is low enough, yeah they could make that happen.

 

[Mrgravia]

I'm struggling in ES4 with a 4090 so yeah..

I get the feeling this game really needs some optimized drivers or patches.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Liar. I'm not responding further.

Pot, meet kettle.

 

[Mrgravia]

IF that's true, it would be nice.

Maybe. If the power profile is low enough, yeah they could make that happen.

Gigabyte 5060 OC Low profile

Now to see how much of an upgrade it is compared to the existing 4060 LP.

 

[AusWolf]

But both amd and nvidia do offer more. Namely 16 gb versions of the cards.

Exactly.

Liar. I'm not responding further.

Lo and behold...

If you argued about the price, that would be a different story.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Gigabyte 5060 OC Low profile

Nice! Me likey!

Now to see how much of an upgrade it is compared to the existing 4060 LP.

Should on par with the difference between the stock 4060 and 5060(whatever those numbers will be).

However, we're getting off topic, so let's call this quits here.

 

[Scattergrunt]

Maybe. If the power profile is low enough, yeah they could make that happen.

Yea.. it hinges on that. Not impossible though.

I will say though that I would still like more SFF cards. LP is constraining but SFF is not LP as far as I'm aware, they're two different (but similar) things, with LP targeting extremely small whereas SFF is just.. small.

I think a SFF 9060XT would be awesome.

 

[AusWolf]

Yea.. it hinges on that. Not impossible though.

I will say though that I would still like more SFF cards. LP is constraining but SFF is not LP as far as I'm aware, they're two different (but similar) things, with LP targeting extremely small whereas SFF is just.. small.

I think a SFF 9060XT would be awesome.

I think what you mean used to be called "ITX" size. Full height, but single fan and not longer than the PCI-e connector.

 

[Scattergrunt]

I think what you mean used to be called "ITX" size. Full height, but single fan and not longer than the PCI-e connector.

Low Profile is single fan cards that are powered only by the PCIE connector traditionally, yea, but SFF cards are not. They are usually dual fan cards. I think of SFF as a middle ground between LP and regular full size cards.

SFF cards were intended (as far as I'm aware) for newer ITX cases but I think LP is less about gaming on ITX and more about other more useful things GPU's can do other than gaming, such as video encoding or etc.

That's as far as my understanding goes anyway.

Again, I think a SFF 9060XT would rock. 8GB of VRAM should be fine for SFF builds who probably are using it more portably anyway on smaller displays.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Low Profile is single fan cards that are powered only by the PCIE connector traditionally, yea, but SFF cards are not.

Not quite. Low profile IS SFF. That is one of the defining specifications of the Small Form Factor spec.

SFF cards were intended (as far as I'm aware) for newer ITX cases but I think LP is less about gaming on ITX and more about other more useful things GPU's can do other than gaming, such as video encoding or etc.

That is incorrect. See the following for examples.
https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/...y-option-oc-white-edition.334877/post-5488860

 

[Mrgravia]

Low profile just means it’s half height, while itx cards used to be single fan or shorter cards. Both fit into different kinds of cases, but may have overlapping use cases.

One might build say a jonsbo nv10 as an ultra portable or small rig for lighter gaming or student use.

That a4 format case style is quite popular in Asia.

Stepping up a bit into the realm of 7L cases you start seeing room for full height cards, but limits on length. Something like the Velka or geeek m31. That’s where ether very short dual fan cards or single fans cards come into play.

 

[Scattergrunt]

Not quite. Low profile IS SFF. That is one of the defining specifications of the Small Form Factor spec.

That's weird..

Perhaps this is where my confusion stems from? If I can find the exact specifications for SFF cards, I will.

Every card that complys with THESE are marketed as "SFF" as well. Seen a few on newegg. That's why I said the things I did..

That is incorrect. See the following for examples.

Post in thread 'ZOTAC Expands GeForce RTX 5070 Ti SOLID Range with "SFF-Ready" Option & OC White Edition'

Apr 2, 2025

Instead of being disrespectful

Again, pot meet kettle.

read the dimensions: https://www.zotac.com/us/product/graphics_card/zotac-gaming-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-solid-sff#spec
304.4mm x 115.8mm x 41.6mm / 12" x 4.6" x 1.6"

Thank you for proving my point with such definitive eloquence! Those dimensions are not small form factor compatible.

Examples from my personal collection;

This is a small form factor video card.


This too is a small form factor video card.


This is also a small form factor video card.

Now lets...

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www.google.com

This matches what I expect from LP cards.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Low profile just means it’s half height

Correct. This also means it's SFF compliant because half height card are the standard for SFF.

That's weird..

Perhaps this is where my confusion stems from?

And that is marketing people getting things wrong. If you look at those card measurement, it is a full height 2.5 slot design. That is not SFF. Them claiming it doesn't make it correct. It makes them either incompetent or morons.

Every card that complys with THESE are marketed as "SFF" as well. Seen a few on newegg. That's why I said the things I did..

Those too are wrong.

This matches what I expect from LP cards.

Low profile IS small form factor.

 

[Mrgravia]

Correct. This also means it's SFF compliant because half height card are the standard for SFF.

Depends on how you define small form factor. A lot of folks consider anything under 20L SFF, with under 10 being very small form factor.

Some sandwich cases can be <10 liters and still take very large cards length wise.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Depends on how you define small form factor.

No, it doesn't. Small Form Factor has been half height, by design since it's inception and release. Certain companies are trying to redefine a standard they have no right or authority to redefine.

A lot of folks consider anything under 20L SFF

And all of those people are wrong. 20L is volume measurement, not a form factor.

with under 10 being very small form factor.

No, it's very small volume. Volume does not equal form factor.

Some sandwich cases can be <10 liters and still take very large cards length wise.

And those a low volume cases, otherwise known as ITX/picoATX