AMD Request o:? for an Unlock the shaders bios / more information

[eidairaman1]

ohh i understand, so i backed up my bios here earlier, and have the custom bios , i guess im good to go attempt a flash anytime now? any tips for the ati flashing program or recovery tips if it dosent post/display after replacing it?

Is there an igp on your motherboard?

 

[ForestElves]

Is there an igp on your motherboard?

i have 2 mobos available and 2 cpus available, the one i currently have set up (im in the middle of an upgrade) the one i have set up is a p8h67-m lx with an i7-3770 (nonk) and i also own a p8z77-m lk and a spare i3-2100, im not sure the h67 board lets me use onboard vga and stuff as i havent tried it, but the 3770 chip should have a igp,(z77 should hav no prob using it if the h67 board wont) and worst case scenario its testable in another mobo i plan to upgrade to anyways, and to boot i have a sapphire r9 270x oc dual-x 2gb gpu spare as well i was going to ask you guys if anything is possible doing with its bios(id have to fnd the gpuz screen and stuf but was actually curious) so in terms of back up video sources i think im okay to begin tests then?

 

[eidairaman1]

Ok Core i cpus do have an igpu in them. So good you do have a backup plan.

Being older motherboards, is the monitor hooked up to the card currently?

 

[ForestElves]

Ok Core i cpus do have an igpu in them. So good you do have a backup plan.

Being older motherboards, is the monitor hooked up to the card currently?

my monitor signals are coming from the card, but my mobo has a vga output its just not what i use since i have the 560.

 

[eidairaman1]

my monitor signals are coming from the card, but my mobo has a vga output its just not what i use since i have the 560.

The z77 board are you sure it is P8Z77-M LK?

 

[ForestElves]

The z77 board are you sure it is P8Z77-M LK?

i made mistake, its p8z77-V lk *

 

[eidairaman1]

Ok your first board has dvi on it your second had dvi and hdmi on it.

Depending on how your monitor is hooked up to the gpu depends on if you can recover quickly or not.

I presume you are using hdmi

 

[ForestElves]

here you go.

this is the method i use post#35

hello hello :3
i tried it today and had some issues getting it to work, i couldent get radeon to install correctly after flashing that bios with ati utility and no 3d applications would run,
the rx560 was displayed as unknown device aftr flash and reboot, if i updated it in dev manager, it showed it as a rx560 with questionmark and the error 43~
in gpu-z the shaders show as 1024 but its missing some information in other areas.
i think i was getting display from the igpu instead of the rx560 so not sure if the bios file worked~
(i tried pixel clock patcher in case it would change something,(im not sure if i was supposed to but i didnt modify anything with polaris bios editor either; was i supposed to edit the hex or is this what you did allready with the bios file?) also where do i find polaris bios editor?
do i need to try something different here?

Ok your first board has dvi on it your second had dvi and hdmi on it.

Depending on how your monitor is hooked up to the gpu depends on if you can recover quickly or not.

I presume you are using hdmi

i tried the flash with Finalfighters file and had microsoft igpu displaying i think (see above pic 4)

 

[Final_Fighter]

did you restart the pc after using the pixal clock patcher? the proper method is:
1.Flash the new bios
2. restart the pc
3. apply the pixel clock patcher
4. restart again

it looks like it did unlock just you need to follow the steps i showed above to get the drivers working.

 

[ForestElves]

did you restart the pc after using the pixal clock patcher? the proper method is:
1.Flash the new bios
2. restart the pc
3. apply the pixel clock patcher
4. restart again

it looks like it did unlock just you need to follow the steps i showed above to get the drivers working.

did you restart the pc after using the pixal clock patcher? the proper method is:
1.Flash the new bios
2. restart the pc
3. apply the pixel clock patcher
4. restart again

it looks like it did unlock just you need to follow the steps i showed above to get the drivers working.

o: ohshit it worked lol
thank you o:! gonna mess around some tests in next day

 

[AmioriK]

o: ohshit it worked lol
thank you o:! gonna mess around some tests in next day

Gratz on the unlock.

you now have 14.2% more shading and texturing power per clock.

Use it wisely :3

 

[Final_Fighter]

im not sure if its been brought up but does your card have a 6pin power connector?

 

[AmioriK]

im not sure if its been brought up but does your card have a 6pin power connector?

It does not

 

[ForestElves]

Gratz on the unlock.

you now have 14.2% more shading and texturing power per clock.

Use it wisely :3

thanks! DD every lil bit counts haha *tosses confetti everywhere*

im not sure if its been brought up but does your card have a 6pin power connector?

it dosent have one, im not sure how thtll effect any overclocking limits yet,
but heres a few synthetic benchmarks i ran on max before and after for comparison (&not oc'd yet)
( the 3 on the left side were done this morning prior to flashing and the right side 3 were done just moment ago w new bios )

 

[Final_Fighter]

thanks! DD every lil bit counts haha *tosses confetti everywhere*

it dosent have one, im not sure how thtll effect any overclocking limits yet,
but heres a few synthetic benchmarks i ran on max before and after for comparison (&not oc'd yet)
( the 3 on the left side were done this morning prior to flashing and the right side 3 were done just moment ago w new bios )

you should be safe to set the memory at 1750. it wont effect the overall current draw that much. i suggest leaving the core clocks alone tho. if you want to overclock the core clocks without worrying about it taking out your motherboard you should grab This. the only problem with the powered riser is that you have to get creative in order to get the card in the pc. this is really only really something you should consider if trying to get every last bit of performance out of the card.

i suggest you set the memory to 1750 and leave the core alone. the above option is only if you really feel like you want to push the card to its max.

one more thing, what is the asic quality?

 

[50eurouser]

Like the previous member said, the most beneficial is to overclock the memory. Try 1750 or even 2000! atm with 1500 you have only 96GB/sec bandwidth, hitting 2000 will give you around 128GB/sec bandwidth.

 

[ForestElves]

you should be safe to set the memory at 1750. it wont effect the overall current draw that much. i suggest leaving the core clocks alone tho. if you want to overclock the core clocks without worrying about it taking out your motherboard you should grab This. the only problem with the powered riser is that you have to get creative in order to get the card in the pc. this is really only really something you should consider if trying to get every last bit of performance out of the card.

i suggest you set the memory to 1750 and leave the core alone. the above option is only if you really feel like you want to push the card to its max.

one more thing, what is the asic quality?

asic quality didnt technically change; well here look it went down by a small decimal point in the copmarison section though~
so ive been doing some overclocking tests with valley and kombustor , on the last handful of frequency tests i cranked the power limit to +75% and im going to probably re-run the test since i should of done that first. 1750 on mem does work-

so do powered risers allow for custom current draw values above the 75% limits(with or without custom bios) or does it just make the +75% have safer delivery to the gpu since it has dedicated power?
hows it going to damage a mobo btw? i did put +75%powerlimit so is wear or damage a factor here if i touch the core clocks?
and what about moving it a few mhz from something like 1187 to 1190 if im ocd(obsessivecompulsive) and think it looks better X'D?

Like the previous member said, the most beneficial is to overclock the memory. Try 1750 or even 2000! atm with 1500 you have only 96GB/sec bandwidth, hitting 2000 will give you around 128GB/sec bandwidth.

my slider currently reaches 1950mhz on standard memory overclocking lmits(using msi afterburner) iirc ,
1750 works just have to redo some benchmarks since cranking the power limit to +75% as i didnt take it into account at first ...
what is the relationship between memory and bandwidth anyway? is it like the raw amount of data the gpu can create per clock or mhz or something?

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i will put up some benchmark results soon

 

[Final_Fighter]

the powered riser provides another path for the card to pull current from. the motherboards pcie slot i believe can only safely deliver 75W(somebody correct me if im wrong), but its not really a massive amount. if the card spikes for whatever reason above this limit(an rx560 with all cores unlocked can if the core is overclocked beyond 1200) it may damage the board. by leaving the cards core clocks below 1200mhz and the memory at 1750 will keep it from over drawing.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I wouldnt touch the core voltage or power limit on that card, you risk frying your motherboards pcie slot

Your bios has a 48w limit, increasing that +75 would allow you to draw 84w which is out of spec for the pcie slot = 75w, not too mention if you get a sudden spike you could well go over 84w also, be happy with the unlocked shaders, overclock at your own risk.

 

[ForestElves]

the powered riser provides another path for the card to pull current from. the motherboards pcie slot i believe can only safely deliver 75W(somebody correct me if im wrong), but its not really a massive amount. if the card spikes for whatever reason above this limit(an rx560 with all cores unlocked can if the core is overclocked beyond 1200) it may damage the board. by leaving the cards core clocks below 1200mhz and the memory at 1750 will keep it from over drawing.

thx alot for your knowledge i appreciate it

I wouldnt touch the core voltage or power limit on that card, you risk frying your motherboards pcie slot

Your bios has a 48w limit, increasing that +75 would allow you to draw 84w which is out of spec for the pcie slot = 75w, not too mention if you get a sudden spike you could well go over 84w also, be happy with the unlocked shaders, overclock at your own risk.

thanks for explaining it, i thought that the +75 for peak power would be ok but i guess not, is +25% safe(r) if one were to overclock?

 

[NdMk2o1o]

In theory, yes as 48w + 25% = 60w well within pcie spec, just know that you won't get much more performance out of the card as much as you might want to try, overclocking shows diminishing results past a certain point and you'd be getting near to that on that 560 as it is, but it should still be a lot better than when you had less shaders, there's only so much you can get out of it and every ounce more you want requires more voltage, power etc so find a decent overclock with 25% power limit and don't try and reach for the skies as even with all the voltage and power you can add you'd still never get close to say an overclocked 570, as long as you know that and don't push it to silly levels it should be fine

 

[ForestElves]

In theory, yes as 48w + 25% = 60w well within pcie spec, just know that you won't get much more performance out of the card as much as you might want to try, overclocking shows diminishing results past a certain point and you'd be getting near to that on that 560 as it is, but it should still be a lot better than when you had less shaders, there's only so much you can get out of it and every ounce more you want requires more voltage, power etc so find a decent overclock with 25% power limit and don't try and reach for the skies as even with all the voltage and power you can add you'd still never get close to say an overclocked 570, as long as you know that and don't push it to silly levels it should be fine

kk, i have testing completed for 0%power limit overclocking , and 75% power limit overclocking, ill be doing some extra runs though for @25% in the next day then to find an overclock profile .
really i just been running the card on stock clocks and stuf, an overclock if any will only be used via loading a profile prior to gaming-


extra question for anyone = whats the deal with pci risers arent they sata or usb powered anyways? so the limits would be the same orr would it be doubled or something else if the riser is x16?(jus curious in theory, not planning to really go through that setup)

 

[NdMk2o1o]

kk, i have testing completed for 0%power limit overclocking , and 75% power limit overclocking, ill be doing some extra runs though for @25% in the next day then to find an overclock profile .
really i just been running the card on stock clocks and stuf, an overclock if any will only be used via loading a profile prior to gaming-


extra question for anyone = whats the deal with pci risers arent they sata or usb powered anyways? so the limits would be the same orr would it be doubled or something else if the riser is x16?(jus curious in theory, not planning to really go through that setup)

You're still taking power from the motherboard pcie which is 75w, the riser card still receives this 75w but has an additional power input (molex +12v) which can provide you with more than the 75w limit a pcie slot can. Basically not worth it unless your shooting for a 560 OC record, just dont get slap happy with the vcore and power limits and you should be ok.