AMD's Dodeca-core processor

[panchoman]

i dont think intel will be releasing a 12 cored cpu anytime soon.. and the new phenoms are actually preety damn good..

 

[cdawall]

WHAT RUBBISH (at least, marketing rubbish).

For one CPU to try and use ANOTHER CPU's memory controller to get Quad channel! Well, let me see:
#1. The first CPU has to set up a communication protocol via HT to request data (latency), an receive it (more latency).
#2. The second CPU has to stand still on its own threads, to process the CPU1 memory access requests. Hence rendering CPU2 zero channel whilst CPU1 gets "quad channel"
#3. The data is out of sync due to #1, hence need to HALT CPU1 and the data from memory controller 1 until data from CPU2/MC2 is ready.

OMG!!! Quad channel indeed, but by significantly increasing latency and forcing a HALT on CPU2. WTF!!!

Intel skulltrail (Quad channel FB-DIMM) and Intel Nehalem (3 channel DDR3/4) FTW!

i understand your main points here and agree but HT3.0 is quite fast so i doubt you will gain any noticeable lag moving to quad channel and the added bandwidth will more than make up for it. i doubt the second cpu will have to stand still on its threads to process the memory commands there has to be some kind of pathway enabled to allow the cpu to talk directly to the others membus they have to be able to work together in some way otherwise AMD would not have made it run this way?

no one will know until benchies are out but AMD has been kicking intels ass in memory benchmarks since DDR1 days they engineering would have to be there for them to try something like this i doubt its done half ass but like i said we will see.

 

[Morgoth]

i dont think intel will be releasing a 12 cored cpu anytime soon.. and the new phenoms are actually preety damn good..

why do you need a 12 cored cpu when you have a 8 cored cpu that can do 16 threads?

 

[cdawall]

why do you need a 12 cored cpu when you have a 8 cored cpu that can do 16 threads?

unless its 8 cores clocked twice as fast the 16 thread thing will do 16 threads but htey will run each thread half as fast vs 12 threads @ full speed? i think they will end up even performance wise but thats just me

 

[jamupnorth]

I thought it all depended on how many threads/cores a program was desighned for ?
as 4 core 8 core 16 core programs do not exist!

what is the point of these chips yet ?

in the future ...yes...but now ?

 

[Mandown]

AMD needs to focus on getting better performance out of what they have now rather than doing the "P4 method" and ramping up everything till it explodes. They really need to better the core arch. then they can add more cores.

 

[panchoman]

amd is using a new core architecture..

 

[Ekklesis]

We all know that this type of product is especially for "show" but usually it has good results on the producer and help a company to produce other good components for the large market so we could hope that it will be the case.

 

[suraswami]

Single Socket 12 cores is awesome for Database servers. Just put in your new 12 core (if compatible) and get a instant performance boost. From what I know Microsoft proc license is based on physical cpu/socket not cores. so you pay one cpu license and get 12 cores he he.

 

[btarunr]

Single Socket 12 cores is awesome for Database servers. Just put in your new 12 core (if compatible) and get a instant performance boost. From what I know Microsoft proc license is based on physical cpu/socket not cores. so you pay one cpu license and get 12 cores he he.

Yes, that's what had admins intrigued, back when quads were conceptualised. One licensed processor, 4 CPU's....

.....But Everest thinks otherwise, meh.

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

I'd like to see AMD release something that can run 3ghz stable before they release more cores like that.

 

[Ekklesis]

But it has something that can run at 3GHz.Of course we all know the performance of the Phenom series and I hope to improve but for now both the X3 and X4 Phenom can run at 3GHz perfectly stable(contrary to some sites that tell vice-versa).

 

[InnocentCriminal]

I can't help but think this is complete overkill for the desktop market. For servers and all that use multiple CPUs, then it makes great sense and AMD has had a pretty good stand in the server/workstation arena for a while now.

However, realistically, we'll probably see, quad-core, maybe 6 and eventually 8 cored CPUs appearing for the home market. What they really need to work on is a capable architecture that will be able to compete with Nehalem. Dual & quad-core CPUs are hardly utilised at the moment so running a 6, 8 or even 12 cored CPU is just pointless in my eyes.

I just hope this isn't another 'impressive' paper launch from AMD.

 

[Nitro-Max]

I'd like to see AMD release something that can run 3ghz stable before they release more cores like that.

i used to run my a64 4000 sandiego at 3ghz stable but that was a single core.

 

[Ekklesis]

I just hope this isn't another 'impressive' paper launch from AMD.

I hope this too but if AMD will succeed to release a 12-core CPU it shows that it can definitely produce other products same as impresive as this.

 

[OzzmanFloyd120]

But it has something that can run at 3GHz.Of course we all know the performance of the Phenom series and I hope to improve but for now both the X3 and X4 Phenom can run at 3GHz perfectly stable(contrary to some sites that tell vice-versa).

I've completely failed to get mine past 2.21ghz, in fact I've only seen one or two people get to 3Ghz, and that was after burning it in.

 

[[I.R.A]_FBi]

AMD = origami company

 

[Ekklesis]

I've completely failed to get mine past 2.21ghz, in fact I've only seen one or two people get to 3Ghz, and that was after burning it in.

I really don't know what problems you have(of course we all know that phenoms are very "selective" with the motherboard and if you use the "right one" it can run stable at 3GHz) but I can't believe I'm the only one on this thread to know so many sites and people which have Phenoms running at 3GHz but I have to add that I was reffering to X4 9850 black and X3 8750 but others may achieve 3GHz too.

 

[CrackerJack]

Toooooooooooooooooooooo many cores. I would rather see a 5GHz+ dual.

Yeah i would too, Instead of making more cores they need to get higher clocks speeds. If they made 12 core at around 3.5ghz then that would be pretty awesome.


And plus if they make 12 core, then what programs will actuall use all of them. Adobe only use 4 now. And CS4 will be the same way. They might chage it to 8 or something later.