AMD's Zen Rumored for January 17th Launch; 8 Cores With 16 Threads for $300

Joss · Nov 19, 2016

HisDivineOrder said:
when you're trying to compete against two of the richest, cleverest, and well-run tech companies in the world you better be a wunderkind yourself. Alas, AMD lost most of its talent after years of staff layoffs and reorganizations

Exactly.
AMD is, basically, a badly run company; and that trickles down to the tech departments.
Remember Rover?

Vario · Nov 20, 2016

Melvis said:
They were AMD's top tier CPU's from 2005 and they cost $1000+ each back then. Yes they were unlocked.

My friend had an FX57 at the time and still has it today. Still works perfect, fast enough for what he does I guess.

Melvis · Nov 20, 2016

Vario said:
My friend had an FX57 at the time and still has it today. Still works perfect, fast enough for what he does I guess.

Nice! I also still have my FX-57, I used it all the way up to the Phenom II days, it just destroyed every intel P4 out there at the time. Im going to rebuild my old 939 System and have it as a retro XP gaming machine for old games. I have all the parts just gotta put it together .

Rockarola · Nov 20, 2016

cdawall said:
I'm in the tech world I have gotten a whole pc once as a gift. (my first pc) that being said I have built dozens for gifts in fact I already did on Xmas gift pc this year. It's not uncommon.

I hate to be the one to burst your bubble, but you are less than 1% of the 1% of people who actually understands what we are arguing about...unless this site is an echo chamber for that 1% :-)

(and I'm still bloody jealous!)

rhythmeister · Dec 8, 2016

"Let's just see if AMD will deliver, or crash and burn like it has done in the past." They didn't crash and burn with the FX 6300 and 8350, what a load of dung that final line was :laugh:

EarthDog · Dec 8, 2016

Dj-ElectriC said:
Intel Has a (pull in dire situations) lever in those cases.

They can out fast 6 and 8 core CPUs for mainstream socket with very tamed TDP and price within months.

Not that hard when top-of-the-line gaming CPUs like the 6700K have such low actual-TDP.

That said, i do hope AMD's product would provide some need to do that

Ehh, no they can't. They are not mixing HEDT and Mainstream in this generation. They will not panic, slam the brakes on what is current in production and suddenly start fabbing out some octo's on Mainstream.

TheGuruStud · Dec 8, 2016

EarthDog said:
Ehh, no they can't. They are not mixing HEDT and Mainstream in this generation. They will not panic, slam the brakes on what is current in production and suddenly start fabbing out some octo's on Mainstream.

And they have no reason to. Their marketing alone can carry them no matter how good zen is. Unless their bottom line actually takes a big hit, then there's no reason to change.

It's going to be 2018 before this stuff starts becoming mainstream from intel.

The truth is that intel doesn't care about desktop. They'll get OEMs to buy their crap, regardless. Server is where they don't want to lose. You'll see accelerated stuff there if zen is a threat.

cdawall · Dec 8, 2016

TheGuruStud said:
And they have no reason to. Their marketing alone can carry them no matter how good zen is. Unless their bottom line actually takes a big hit, then there's no reason to change.

It's going to be 2018 before this stuff starts becoming mainstream from intel.

The truth is that intel doesn't care about desktop. They'll get OEMs to buy their crap, regardless. Server is where they don't want to lose. You'll see accelerated stuff there if zen is a threat.

All Intel would have to do is lower the cost on HEDT. They still profit even if they half the price of the 6900k...people don't realize how low Intel values those CPU's internally.

TheGuruStud · Dec 8, 2016

cdawall said:
All Intel would have to do is lower the cost on HEDT. They still profit even if they half the price of the 6900k...people don't realize how low Intel values those CPU's internally.

They'll have to drop MB prices, too.
I don't see them doing much except a little drop on the CPUs. They want to retain the margin b/c people are going to pay (the fandom is unreal).

cdawall · Dec 8, 2016

TheGuruStud said:
They'll have to drop MB prices, too.
I don't see them doing much except a little drop on the CPUs. They want to retain the margin b/c people are going to pay (the fandom is unreal).

Doubtful they will have to drop board prices. The high end amd boards probably aren't going to be crazy cheaper at release.

TheGuruStud · Dec 8, 2016

cdawall said:
Doubtful they will have to drop board prices. The high end amd boards probably aren't going to be crazy cheaper at release.

350-500 for a big boy board is a lot. I can't imagine the AMD ones will cost over 250.

cdawall · Dec 8, 2016

TheGuruStud said:
350-500 for a big boy board is a lot. I can't imagine the AMD ones will cost over 250.

Why the crosshairs did on release?

TheGuruStud · Dec 8, 2016

cdawall said:
Why the crosshairs did on release?

I'd say they're pretty unique (only ones priced so high that I remember). I never bought them. Mine were 200 on release and did everything a crosshair would. I'm totally done with asus of now, too. They're overpriced and not even reliable anymore.

I'll see what Asrock and Gigabyte have to offer.

EarthDog · Dec 8, 2016

The problem with current gen AMD mobo's is 2/3 of them can't handle a high overclock without throttling and flipping out/requiring additional cooling around the VRM and socket... lol

So there were really about 3-5 boards that you could really push AMD octos...

Hopefully that changes with thier lower power requirements.

TheGuruStud · Dec 8, 2016

EarthDog said:
The problem with current gen AMD mobo's is 2/3 of them can't handle a high overclock without throttling and flipping out/requiring additional cooling around the VRM and socket... lol

So there were really about 3-5 boards that you could really push AMD octos...

Hopefully that changes with thier lower power requirements.

I ran my 8350 at 4.7 on that pos sabertooth. I tried higher, but the chip wasn't having it.

Asrock Fatality boards could handle the juice, too.

Idk about the others.

cdawall · Dec 8, 2016

TheGuruStud said:
I ran my 8350 at 4.7 on that pos sabertooth. I tried higher, but the chip wasn't having it.

Asrock Fatality boards could handle the juice, too.

Idk about the others.

I have 6 asrock boards in the shop with bad mosfets that say you are incorrect. The 3 to 5 boards that can handle 5+ were all Asus and GB.

TheGuruStud · Dec 8, 2016

cdawall said:
I have 6 asrock boards in the shop with bad mosfets that say you are incorrect. The 3 to 5 boards that can handle 5+ were all Asus and GB.

I could never get that high. The chips are junk.

suraswami · Dec 10, 2016

Peace!! Let the 'Monk' come out, we will then what it is capable of

cdawall · Dec 10, 2016

TheGuruStud said:
I could never get that high. The chips are junk.

I had no issue out of my 9370? I have had a couple 9590's come through the shop and as long as the cooling/board could hold up I haven't seen an issue with them holding 5ghz 24/7 stable.

eidairaman1 · Dec 10, 2016

TheGuruStud said:
I ran my 8350 at 4.7 on that pos sabertooth. I tried higher, but the chip wasn't having it.

Asrock Fatality boards could handle the juice, too.

Idk about the others.

Read my specs dude.

Ungari · Dec 10, 2016

eidairaman1 said:
Read my specs dude.

What kind of temps do you get with that OC?

eidairaman1 · Dec 10, 2016

Ungari said:
What kind of temps do you get with that OC?

idle- 43, Gaming 50-55

TheGuruStud · Dec 10, 2016

cdawall said:
I had no issue out of my 9370? I have had a couple 9590's come through the shop and as long as the cooling/board could hold up I haven't seen an issue with them holding 5ghz 24/7 stable.

Never bothered with the 9xxx ones. I guess that's why haha

EarthDog · Dec 12, 2016

TheGuruStud said:
I ran my 8350 at 4.7 on that pos sabertooth. I tried higher, but the chip wasn't having it.

Asrock Fatality boards could handle the juice, too.

Idk about the others.

sabertooth was one of those 5ish boards that could handle it.

TheGuruStud · Dec 12, 2016

EarthDog said:
sabertooth was one of those 5ish boards that could handle it.

Too bad ver 2 is defective. Looks like every board is. Combined with Asus's stance of "We don't support linux" guess who lost sales. Not booting from GPT affects more than Linux, assholes (a very shitty business practice anyway).

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AMD's Zen Rumored for January 17th Launch; 8 Cores With 16 Threads for $300

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EarthDog

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cdawall

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cdawall

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TheGuruStud

cdawall

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TheGuruStud

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cdawall

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