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2nd gig is great. SAC was more episodic, while 2nd gig had more of a static plot. You don't necessarily see everything happening. A lot is simply inferred. It's only there if you look. There's not that sense of movement and just... things happening. It feels like you're uncovering more and more of the overall situation as you're going along. Like a big mosiac that you're examining piece by piece.

I really liked that. It's a lot like trying to look at the real world and trying to make sense of the state of things, like following the news and piecing together the puzzle of reality, you know? And as you dial in more and more, a bigger picture comes into view and previously small events take on new meaning. Kind of invites you to really think and observe as you go along. Take it slow. Beneath it all is a truth that nobody can hold. Pretty deep stuff. I prefer it over SAC, for the most part. The pacing threw me the first time through. But by the second run I loved it. And then I watched it 7 or 8 more times that year.

I guess the way to put it is that it shows you this future scenario almost as you would uncover it if you were living in that time, just looking at your surroundings, talking to people, and watching the news. Really puts you there in that way. I think that's a big part of what makes it believable. You experience it as you would if it were real.

And yeah, you're right about the atmosphere and feel of both those series and the movies. It leaves a hole in your life that nothing else fills. The manga's great, but it doesn't have the same impact on me. I enjoy them the same, just differently from the anime. Haven't read the books. Need to.

Yoko Kanno is probably my favorite soundtrack producer, period. She has this distinctive sound about her. And it's crazy... ...she has always fucking had it! I have a couple decades of her stuff and it's all distinctly hers... ...and yet it's really diverse and out there. The gits stuff is up there for me, but I think my favorite she's done is the soundtrack to Wolf's Rain. So many absolutely gorgeous passages on those. I don't even like the show that much, but that soundtrack is incredible.

The live-action... ...I never really engaged with. I made a first impression and it matched other people's final impressions of it. So I said "nah."

Incidentally I watched a little bit of Arise the other day... ...maybe just because it's the only part of the franchise I haven't run into the ground. It's really good, especially compared to other stuff coming out at the time, but something about it doesn't hit the same spot for me. I really like the new character designs, the world, the feel, etc. But it all just seems pretty "vanilla" to me. Like, if there was no hype and ghost in the shell wasn't already a huge thing, I think it'd leave a much stronger impression on me. As a standalone thing it's good. As a ghost in the shell installment it's just kind of weak and lacking a bit in that hallmark character. *Really* hard to place.

Yeah the first season is almost a bit of an procedural/episodic crime drama.. outside of the Laughing Man stuff. And almost all of 2 is Kuze related.. with more depressing dystopia in the background. You realize it's not a fun future to live in...or I do at least.

Still sad that Origa passed away.

edit: I liked Arise, but the format of shows like that aren't my thing. Not exactly a feature or a series.
 
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You guys watched appleseed?
It's not as good but it's another of Masamune Shirow's works...

I would also recommend Mardock Scramble, it captures some of the feel that we get from gits...
 
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I saw Appleseed a long time ago.. might give it a view again. Intentionally have stayed away from the 3D one though.. I just don't like most of that stuff (even though I'm a gamer, I much prefer traditional/cell shaded designs). Never seen Mardock Scramble. Never even heard of it.
 
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I saw Appleseed a long time ago.. might give it a view again. Intentionally have stayed away from the 3D one though.. I just don't like most of that stuff (even though I'm a gamer, I much prefer traditional/cell shaded designs). Never seen Mardock Scramble. Never even heard of it.

Give it a try, if you have the time, pretty good cyberpunk, complex story, great visuals, awesome cast...
 
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Give it a try, if you have the time, pretty good cyberpunk, complex story, great visuals, awesome cast...

Cool.. I'll keep it in mind. Speaking of Kanno, after watching that vid I mentioned, I saw that she did Darker than Black.. so I'll give that a try now. Then watch some of these others.
 
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Cool.. I'll keep it in mind. Speaking of Kanno, after watching that vid I mentioned, I saw that she did Darker than Black.. so I'll give that a try now. Then watch some of these others.

The first season is something else, for dtb, the second, while also good, is a little different...
 
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The first season is something else, for dtb, the second, while also good, is a little different...

It never actually appealed to me, because at first glance, it looked like "Urban Bleach" or something.. but if she's involved, I'll give it a chance. That said, not everything she (or even Watanabe) does is necessarily a like from me. I didn't like Terror in Resonance... couldn't even finish it.
 
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Darker than Black is pretty good. I didn't have the problems with S2 that a lot of people seemed to have. It's definitely different. Not suuper memorable stuff, but all around solid.

Terror in Resonance, I wanted to like. It had SO much potential. I wanted to like it so bad. But to me it was just another one of those pseudo deep shows. All of these analogies and piles of symbols symbolizing symbolism, all to tell a very simple story with simple characters. In the beginning I thought it was gonna be great. And then as it went along it got dumb. The payoff sucked imho.

The soundtrack is great, though. It's funny. A good half of the shows she's worked on, I think kinda suck. But I still listen to the soundtracks.

Is it just me, or does it seem like every time a renowned writer is announced on a big project with a big studio and people pick up the hype, the story sucks? Why is that. When nobody cares is when it's actually good. Anybody remember Psycho Pass S2 and the Urobutcher fiasco?

Psycho Pass deserves a mention here, though. Anime minority report. I could go for more like that.

Another "lesser" one I really like is Ergo Proxy, though I may be the minority there. I loved the world they built. A lot more to it than there seems like there is.
 
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Darker than Black is pretty good. I didn't have the problems with S2 that a lot of people seemed to have. It's definitely different. Not suuper memorable stuff, but all around solid.

Terror in Resonance, I wanted to like. It had SO much potential. I wanted to like it so bad. But to me it was just another one of those pseudo deep shows. All of these analogies and piles of symbols symbolizing symbolism, all to tell a very simple story with simple characters. In the beginning I thought it was gonna be great. And then as it went along it got dumb. The payoff sucked imho.

The soundtrack is great, though. It's funny. A good half of the shows she's worked on, I think kinda suck. But I still listen to the soundtracks.

Is it just me, or does it seem like every time a renowned writer is announced on a project and people pick up the hype, the story sucks? Why is that. When nobody cares is when it's actually good. Anybody remember Psycho Pass S2 and the Urobutcher fiasco?

Psycho Pass deserves a mention here, though. Anime minority report. I could go for more like that.

Another "lesser" one I really like is Ergo Proxy, though I may be the minority there. I loved the world they built. A lot more to it than there seems like there is.

Terror got dumb to me the minute their "rival".. the girl with free rein over police.. came into the series. It was worse than Death Note (which itself was actually pretty good until L died).

edit: When it started, I thought it'd just be a rivalry with that lazy detective.. which would have been cool. But then, the series turn them into the heroes instead and introduced the cheesy girl.
 
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Terror got dumb to me the minute their "rival".. the girl with free rein over police.. came into the series. It was worse than Death Note (which itself was actually pretty good until L died).
Yep. Cheap as shit.

Death Note... ...yeah I pretty much consider it over when L dies. That's as far as I watch. Good enough for me lol. The N arc is just pointless.
 
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It kind of makes me sad though, because I like Watanabe a lot.. and this seemed to be a labor of love to him. No one forced him to do it.. he came up with the series on his own. I halfway want to think I'm missing something... but then, there's way too much anime to give it another chance.
 
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Darker than Black is pretty good. I didn't have the problems with S2 that a lot of people seemed to have. It's definitely different. Not suuper memorable stuff, but all around solid.

Terror in Resonance, I wanted to like. It had SO much potential. I wanted to like it so bad. But to me it was just another one of those pseudo deep shows. All of these analogies and piles of symbols symbolizing symbolism, all to tell a very simple story with simple characters. In the beginning I thought it was gonna be great. And then as it went along it got dumb. The payoff sucked imho.

The soundtrack is great, though. It's funny. A good half of the shows she's worked on, I think kinda suck. But I still listen to the soundtracks.

Is it just me, or does it seem like every time a renowned writer is announced on a big project with a big studio and people pick up the hype, the story sucks? Why is that. When nobody cares is when it's actually good. Anybody remember Psycho Pass S2 and the Urobutcher fiasco?

Psycho Pass deserves a mention here, though. Anime minority report. I could go for more like that.

Another "lesser" one I really like is Ergo Proxy, though I may be the minority there. I loved the world they built. A lot more to it than there seems like there is.

Psycho Pass was pretty good, good cyberpunk stuff...

And ofc ergo proxy was really interesting, boring at times yes, but really good if you learn to enjoy it...

Well while on the subject, Eve no jikan was masterpiece for me.
Sakasama no patema with really great world bulding too.
And Texhnolize already an oldie, serial experimental LAIN also a mindfucking classic...

I better stop here...
 
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Psycho Pass was pretty good, good cyberpunk stuff...

And ofc ergo proxy was really interesting, boring at times yes, but really good if you learn to enjoy it...

Well while on the subject, Eve no jikan was masterpiece for me.
Sakasama no patema with really great world bulding too.
And Texhnolize already an oldie, serial experimental LAIN also a mindfucking classic...

I better stop here...
Ergo Proxy has some pacing issues. At times it feels like it diverges a little too much, but after a while you realize that everything that happens - even the stuff that seems boring - has a reason to be included. It's all part of the journey and the show's world. I think once you realize that, you appreciate it a lot more. I do anyway. I love worldbuilding. People always call it pretentious, like it wants to be deep. I don't think that's true. In fact I'd say it's actually very direct. But if you're misled by some of the vagueness, you might think it's pseudo-deep and dismiss keystone stuff as being symbolic nonsense when really it's not even symbolic. It's actually telling you a clear-cut story.

I actually really like all of the ventures outside of the dome. Interesting takeaways through out. And things quickly get abstract and weird and out there. Easy way to get to my heart. :p

Psycho Pass was a breath of fresh air when it came out. Really stood out a lot. I think that was most people's "best of season." And for good reason. Just an all-around well executed story with compelling characters, intelligent themes and a really great look/feel. S1 had it all, man. It's SO rare to see a good sci-fi pop up now. I was getting ready to drop anime at the time, but that show kept me going.

Eve No Jikan! Yes! Now we're getting a little obscure. I totally forgot about that. Not because it wasn't good, though! I was just watching so much back then that it all runs together. Really nice, sort of slice of life meets sci-fi. And I'm not talking cheesy, pandering slice of life. I mean slice of actual life. It was interesting to see how it explored the implications of human interaction with advanced AI's... ...and how those AI's integrate into a world of living, breathing human beings. Very thoughtful and contemplative. One of those things where it sort of lulls you into a calm, but also turns your brain on. Really enjoyed it.

Don't know why, but thinking of that one makes me think of Planetes.

Patema Inverted wasn't too bad. I was a little underwhelmed but I recall not being in the right frame of mind to appreciate it. I should really re-watch it. I was excited when it was first announced. Couldn't wait for it to come out. Don't remember much about it tbh :/

Texhnolize is obligatory sci-fi watching. Nuff said.

And YES. Lain. That's probably one of my favorites ever. That show is the definition of atmosphere. And I swear to you, I've seen it dozens of times and still can't settle on how to interpret it. Every time I go along, I feel like I FINALLY get it... ...like the picture I have is so complete. And then the next time I watch I realize I'm off and NOW I get it. Of course there are certain aspects that are just static and objective, but that stuff takes a while to pick up on. The whole thing is one big ketamine trip and I love it. So dissociative. If I did top # lists, it'd be on all of them.
 
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Cyber City.. Not the most engaging, but it has great style. Visually exactly what I was looking for.

So I looked up who did it.. lo and behold the creator of Vampire Hunter D and Ninja Scroll... it reminded me of exactly that.. just sci-fi.
 
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Goodness, I have no idea whats up in AoT right now.

Also, wow was the contrast between the intro and the theme really something.
 
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Macross: Do you remember love?

I'm ashamed to say I've never actually seen this (seen some Robotech over the years). It's good! Definitely better than Evangelion. Why does that get the most mecha related attention? Do you people like bleak shit or what? And if I want to watch humans battling it out like Gundam, I've already mentioned LoGH.

Speaking of bleak, did anyone mention the Netflix adaption of Devilman already? Because that's extremely depressing too. More than Evangelion.
 

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Is Youjo Senki worth a watch? I have only seen 4 animes that I really like so far, Death Note, ReZero, HunterxHunter, Code Geass.
 
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Is Youjo Senki worth a watch? I have only seen 4 animes that I really like so far, Death Note, ReZero, HunterxHunter, Code Geass.
It's good, not great. You need to know about WW2 and be an atheist to enjoy it, I enjoyed it.
Try Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood for something of similar calibre to those 4, or try something like A Silent Voice, Anohana or Clannad for a change of pace.
 
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Is Youjo Senki worth a watch? I have only seen 4 animes that I really like so far, Death Note, ReZero, HunterxHunter, Code Geass.

It is pretty interesting, compared to the manga, the art is kinda shit, but its pretty crazy...
 
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It is pretty interesting, compared to the manga, the art is kinda shit, but its pretty crazy...
That was on purpose, to make Tanya less waifu~ish.
 
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It's good, not great. You need to know about WW2 and be an atheist to enjoy it, I enjoyed it.
Try Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood for something of similar calibre to those 4, or try something like A Silent Voice, Anohana or Clannad for a change of pace.

lol.. kind of a limited demographic.
 
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lol.. kind of a limited demographic.
I find it better than the usual moe+theme trash (kancole, girls und panzer, strike witches, etc.). Plus it seems a loli Hitler grabs some viewers.
 
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This is what you can expect from Youjo senki...
 

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finally caught up and watched latest AoT, my comment is now... ".....DO SOMETHING"
 
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Why is there so much magical girl anime, but not magical women? Anyone know of one?

Since we were talking about music earlier, I should point out that a great majority of my favorite musicians are also magical women :p (Siouxsie, Kate Bush, Stevie Nicks, etc).
 
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