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B580 tanks performance with low end CPUs

y2faulty said:
just wait a month, you could see what's up with the overhead problem + new card could lower the prices.
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Yeah, I think I will do that. What will you choose from the list I posted if we assume that the B580's problem is fixed?
 
koralski said:
I have a 550w PSU so I would want something that would work with that.
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If that's the only part in your way, don't bother.
You're not going to pass power check at POST on any modern card without good power rails.
 
DaemonForce said:
If that's the only part in your way, don't bother.
You're not going to pass power check at POST on any modern card without good power rails.
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Are you being for real?
 
koralski said:
Yeah, I think I will do that. What will you choose from the list I posted if we assume that the B580's problem is fixed?
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I think Intel's recommendation for the B580 is 600W. Can it work with 550? Quite possibly, but there is that.

Were I in your shoes, though, I think I'd opt for the 4060. Yes, less VRAM and all, but DLSS is the best crutch there is and the thing sips power. And it doesn't have the overhead issue the Arc currently does.
 
I don't play AAA games, I probably won't need DLSS.

Time will tell. If Intel sorts this out, I'll get the B580. If not though a 4060 is going to be on the way.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. :)
 
koralski said:
I don't play AAA games, I probably won't need DLSS.

Time will tell. If Intel sorts this out, I'll get the B580. If not though a 4060 is going to be on the way.

Thanks for the suggestions guys. :)
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A 7600 is also a good choice if you can get it at a good price. Or the 7600 XT that comes with 16 GB VRAM. I'm not saying that the 4060 is bad, though, far from it. At an equal price, I'd get that over the 7600, but not over the XT.
 
AusWolf said:
A 7600 is also a good choice if you can get it at a good price. Or the 7600 XT that comes with 16 GB VRAM.
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The pricing for AMD here sucks.

The non-XT is 302,83 USD. (8GB Sapphire)
The XT is 398.18. (16GB Gigabyte)
 
koralski said:
Are you being for real?
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I'm not sure about this one. Last month I made a jump from 25A to 83A. It's effectively a 46+42 pairing.
You might just be lucky enough to squeak by but who knows? I promise nothing.
ALL of those newer cards are sold on the plan that you have enough to power them.
koralski said:
The pricing for AMD here sucks.

The non-XT is 302,83 USD. (8GB Sapphire)
The XT is 398.18. (16GB Gigabyte)
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Wild. We're looking at a market that's just now adjusting for a recent launch and it hasn't even been a full 24hrs for placeholders.
Price discovery has also been completely on its head since early December. This is not the time to buy.
 
DaemonForce said:
I'm not sure about this one. Last month I made a jump from 25A to 83A. It's effectively a 46+42 pairing.
You might just be lucky enough to squeak by but who knows? I promise nothing.
ALL of those newer cards are sold on the plan that you have enough to power them.

Wild. We're looking at a market that's just now adjusting for a recent launch and it hasn't even been a full 24hrs for placeholders.
Price discovery has also been completely on its head since early December. This is not the time to buy.
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The pricing where I live (Bulgaria) has always been a bit shit for GPU's.
 
koralski said:
7600XT - 398,20 USD (388,59 EUR)
6700XT - Is missing stock almost everywhere and is 510 USD where it's available.
4060 (The cheapest 8GB variant - Palit) is the same price as the B580.
4060Ti - 458,97 USD (447,91 EUR)

I have a 550w PSU so I would want something that would work with that.
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at this point (if it was me) I would go with the 4060 since it's the same price and Intel may not be able to fix the issue
waiting to see if Intel does fix the issue is another option
I don't think either one is "bad" decision if that's all your budget allows and doing a little research into which card plays the games you like better would help you out as well

as far as power goes, neither card breaks 200w so you would be around 275w-300w total system in gaming. A modern 550W (that can actually provide 550w in spec) will handle that no problem and from your other posts it does seem to be DC-DC rather than group regulated.
 
dirtyferret said:
at this point (if it was me) I would go with the 4060 since it's the same price and Intel may not be able to fix the issue
waiting to see if Intel does fix the issue is another option
I don't think either one is "bad" decision if that's all your budget allows and doing a little research into which card plays the games you like better would help you out as well

as far as power goes, neither card breaks 200w so you would be around 275w-300w total system in gaming. A modern 550W (that can actually provide 550w in spec) will handle that no problem and from your other posts it does seem to be DC-DC rather than group regulated.
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I have the A550BN by MSI.
 
koralski said:
I have the A550BN by MSI.
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it's a reliable enough CWT platform that's been used by XPG, corsair, and one other brands (Asus...maybe)
 
Yeah yeah yeah... everybody knows all about the last gen GPU and the next gen GPU until it's out and they buy it out of want like any ostrich in a pitch of sand...

Are your games crashing with your 4090 or RX6800 already or is that fps number really giving you manhood troubles?
 
koralski said:
Yeah, I think I will do that. What will you choose from the list I posted if we assume that the B580's problem is fixed?
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Yeah wait until intel cpus are tested, units that are equivalent to the amd parts.
 
So I suppose 12600KF would be a good enough pairing for this as it's not that much slower than 13600K. How much is it in the U.S. these days? If around $150 then definitely fits the "budget build" imo.
 
Zazigalka said:
computerbase tested b580 on an i3 (1080p medium settings), still a performance hit, but not as bad as on ryzen

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Thank you. I've been looking for data like this. Though I wonder why 1440p ultra settings was not used as thats where its advantage lies... with the extra vram. Maybe it didn't want that in the data but I'd like to see that too.
 
Dr. Dro said:
IMHO the requirement for ReBAR support is probably the worst deal about the Arc cards. The B580 would fit like a glove for an older machine on X79 or X99 platforms.
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Then they can add ReBar support through the ReBarUEFI project.
 
SSGBryan said:
Then they can add ReBar support through the ReBarUEFI project.
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While I'm glad that a workaround such as this exists, I don't believe it's reasonable to ask of customers to modify their system BIOS in order to get the best from a product they've purchased. If Nvidia or even AMD asked for this, there'd be electric pitchforks awaiting them.
 
Dr. Dro said:
While I'm glad that a workaround such as this exists, I don't believe it's reasonable to ask of customers to modify their system BIOS in order to get the best from a product they've purchased. If Nvidia or even AMD asked for this, there'd be electric pitchforks awaiting them.
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Why not? People do software updates all the time to enhance and/or fix problems. Updating to a more refined UEFI is no be deal.
 
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