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Interesting, is that going to be like some of the unlock for BC2 where it unlocked them early, but still later everyone would get them? Or are those specific to that pack?
 
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Interesting, is that going to be like some of the unlock for BC2 where it unlocked them early, but still later everyone would get them? Or are those specific to that pack?

Supposedly the Type 88 light machine gun with bipod, SKS sniper rifle flash suppressor, and armor-piercing flechette ammo for the DAO-12 shotgun are forever exclusive. Unless you buy it from a selected vendor, you can never get them. The DAO shotgun itself is just an early unlock.

Forever exclusive if you buy from a certain vendor is why people are up in arms.
 

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Interesting, I'm surprised the flash suppressor would be in that list. There will be other LMG's, other Shottys (thought wouldnt make sense for the DAO to be the only one able to use that ammo), but flash supressors, I would assume there is only 1. So that completely changes that kit.
 
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In typical self-interested human fashion I am going to admit that I don't give a crap cuz I pre ordered! :)
 
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this game can't come out fast enough
 
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this game can't come out fast enough
Just don't play 5000 hours in 2 weeks this time :laugh: Had some good times when you were playing, will be nice to see you back on the battlefield.
 
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Just don't play 5000 hours in 2 weeks this time :laugh: Had some good times when you were playing, will be nice to see you back on the battlefield.
Haha…no promises. I’m sure it’s inevitable that I’ll burn myself out again. Happens a lot faster when I play FPSs over MMOs…because I have almost triple my play time in Rift over what I did in Bad Co. 2. However, this game will be transitional to SW:TOR so it will become 100% casual game play once that game is released.
 
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Mod Support and DICE – Setting a Myth Straight

May 11 2011 10:06 PM | cyclosarin in Battlefield 3
Many fans in the Battlefield community of late have been upset about what appears to be DICE walking away from their historic support of modifications. I, as someone who has been in the Battlefield modding community since October 2002, and have seen it all, would like to set a few things straight. I would also like to present what I think the community should be asking for, instead of what they have been demanding.

Much of the community talkback has revolved around two things: decrying DICEs walking away from their ‘roots’ by not supporting mods the way they used to, and a demand for an editor. This line of conversation ignores what those of us around at the beginning know: DICE mod support has always been sketchy at best, and the release of an editor with Battlefield 2 was an exception, not a rule.

DICEs first official map editor was the editor they released for BF1942, called BattleCraft. But BattleCraft was actually a community map editor, being worked on by a community member during a time when we had no tools at all. DICE hired the person making BattleCraft early in its development and we didn’t hear anything of it until late in BF1942’s life cycle. This was a time when anything we had was software intended for other uses (like Daylon Leveller) or made by the community, like the RFA Extractor without which we could not have done anything.

The editor which made modding for BF1942 easier and to which many BF1942 mods owed their life was called Editor42. It was superior to what ended up being BattleCraft in every way, it came out early, and most of all – it had nothing to do with DICE. It was made by a French Canadian named CoinCoin, and beta tested by another community member, named AudioGod, and myself (then known as Augustus). Editor42 was so good in fact, CoinCoin changed the license terms to say commercial use required payment, due to suspicions he had that EA and DICE were using it themselves (based upon approaches EA had made to him to offer ‘helpful advice’). Editor42 was always the preferred editor in the community, even after BattleCraft was released.

None of the most important tools had anything to do with DICE. Battlefield modding started out with people making maps entirely using notepad for object placement and 3dsMax for terrain texturing (and most other tasks, thanks to RexMan, later a Desert Combat developer).

By and large, DICEs mod tools had come out long after the community had already worked everything out for themselves, and had made software and 3dsMax scripts to do it all (DICEs Mod Tool download was actually a collection of MaxScripts made by RexMan, repackaged). DICE also consistently underestimated what the community was capable of; never believing the community could make a working helicopter with the existing code. This trait is still evident today with their patronising claims they can’t release their Frostbite 2 editor because their engine is too complicated for us.

Criticising DICE for not releasing mod tools ignores the history of Battlefield modding, which is a history of doing it ourselves, with only a little help from them. That is after all, the spirit of modding. What we should be campaigning for are two simple things: a custom game menu item so that mods can actually be used (no one seems to have even bothered asking for this!), and some kind of extractor tool to enable us to decompile their files. From there, we can do the rest. Our community is chock full of smart people who love the challenge, and if BF3 is as big a game as we hope it will be, there will be even more of them.

So get the word out – stop whingeing and ask for something DICE might actually see as a small thing that won’t cost them anything to give us. We’ll do the rest.

guardian.co.uk - Frank Gibeau interview Part 1, Part 2.

BF3 (Frostbite 2) related Excerpts:

Is the move to fewer game engines about freeing up studios and allowing them to concentrate on creativity?To a degree. With Frostbite, we've built a technology that works across genres. I don't want engineers, artists and designers to be fighting their tools, I want them creating great gameplay experiences. That was definitely a conscious decision – we've got to get out of fighting all these engines, because I can't even move an artist from one game to another. The beauty of Frostbite is, the spectacular piece of technology that you see in Battlefield 3 and Need for Speed: The Run is just the tip of the iceberg – we'll be taking that tech across more genres to help us do great things in the future.
Last year, you were pitching Medal of Honor against Call of Duty – that possibly didn't work quite as well as you'd hoped. What did you learn from that?We learned that it's a tough category. We also learned that Medal of Honor did sell well, we were proud of it, but we wished it had done better from a quality standpoint. The key learning was, we wanted to get on to a common technology – the Medal of Honor and Battlefield teams are now operating in the same group together so they can share tools, technologies, innovations, without feeling like the same games.

Battlefield and Medal of Honor will be part of a rotation that we go after the shooter category with, and this year, with Battlefield 3, I think we have a generational breakthrough in terms of technology. We have a team that's been together for ten years. The Medal of Honor team was fairly new, they were using middleware and software that had already been out there, so… They're a great team, and we're going to continue to invest in them, but we're going to approach it slightly differently than we did before.
 
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Beginning to be concerned about BF3 on Steam. :( Many folks up in arms today about Crysis 2 disappearing from Steam, being listed as an Origin digital exclusive. There were still 50 EA games listed on Steam last night, when I checked.

We need to get a statement from EA re: BF3 soon.
 
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I was a bit surprised when they announced the October 25th release date for Battlefield 3 at E3, then never qualified it for Europe. Well, they are letting the European retailers break the news to their customers.
Retailers (at least UK ones) are notifiying their Battlefield 3 pre-order customers that the game will be released on October 28th...
 

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Origin will suck just like EA... I really want BF3 on steam..

I have an EA account somewhere with all the BF addons for every pc bf game... The only BF game i don't own is BC, only because it's console only.. I did play it thou on xbox.
 
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Gully any word on the Physical Pack per store? If its not on steam I wanna get it from a brick and mortar.
 
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Gully any word on the Physical Pack per store? If its not on steam I wanna get it from a brick and mortar.
This is all I saw today:

twitter.com/TanteEmma: "New Pre-Order features revealed. Dog Tag and Specact kits at different retailers. t.co/WhptlmB t.co/eWPjqCr #bf3"

No comprehensive list. If Origin becomes the only place to get the digital version, all of these pre-order bonus' will be for different B&M places.
 
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This is all I saw today:

twitter.com/TanteEmma: "New Pre-Order features revealed. Dog Tag and Specact kits at different retailers. t.co/WhptlmB t.co/eWPjqCr #bf3"

No comprehensive list. If Origin becomes the only place to get the digital version, all of these pre-order bonus' will be for different B&M places.
I dont mind. I just wish they would give us a list.

Gamestop: Gives this.
Toys R Us: Gives this.

Ya know what I mean?
 
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I dont mind. I just wish they would give us a list.

Gamestop: Gives this.
Toys R Us: Gives this.

Ya know what I mean?
I am slightly disturbed that Toys R Us would sell an M rated game.
 

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I'm hoping they allow us to buy these special things. I like my Specact kit in BC2 and would love to have that again. But I want to see the customized dog tags, because if the special ones are sexy, I'd like those too, I knife a lot so customized dog tags sound awesome.

I am slightly disturbed that Toys R Us would sell an M rated game.
Whys that? It is mostly a toy store, but they do sell things for adults, they would ask for ID either way.
 
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I can't see the detail at the link, but this source has been reliable in the past...

twitter.com/Blond3r: "Awesome #Battlefield3 news: And I'm singing: 'He's coming home.. he's coming home.. I still don't believe it, but he's coming home!' :) #BF3"

twitter.com/Blond3r: ""Okok... I stop singing and just make it short: 'The #Commander will be back!' :) t.co/ykkJwDj #Battlefield3 #BF3

Edit: I believe they totally misinterpreted the answer they got on this one. Here is his source (Google translated): gameswelt.de. It looks to me like they were told "we are trying to push down the previous commander caapabilities to the soldiers on the field". What do you think?

==================================================

Addressing no specific person nor topic, draw your own conclusions...

twitter.com/L_Twin: "Hold fast people, clarifications are coming from us. Will be posted on the blog probably tomorrow"
 
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I'm hoping they allow us to buy these special things. I like my Specact kit in BC2 and would love to have that again. But I want to see the customized dog tags, because if the special ones are sexy, I'd like those too, I knife a lot so customized dog tags sound awesome.



Whys that? It is mostly a toy store, but they do sell things for adults, they would ask for ID either way.
its not a logical thought. just struck me as odd is all.
 
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It's all about the Benjamins.
 
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