BF3 and origin?

[Mr McC]

Ea just seem to get more and more retarded as time goes by.

Indeed.

The Metacritic and Amazon user reviews are giving the game a slating: it has dropped from 7.4 to 7.1 in a matter of hours on Metacritic and currently has only 2 stars on Amazon. The main causes of contention are the single player campaign and Origin. As far as I'm concerned, single player was never the focus of Battlefield games, but with regards to Origin, they simply appear pigheaded and oblivious to the community's wishes, because, let's face it, even those who bought the game have absolutely no desire to use Origin and are by no means rushing to its defence. Not that user reviiews are the measure of a game, but to my mind it was extremely stupid to use the BF3 launch to ram an unwanted platform down customers' throats and clearly I am not alone. Bad publicity hurts, as does ignoring the gaming community. There was simply no need.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Just read through a few pages of amazon reviews, i did not know Origin can access any files it wants at any time on your hdd, sounds like spyware to me. Kinda glad i decided to avoid it now.

 

[Crap Daddy]

Evil Ampire again? Well the game has the best visuals to date in PC gaming history and is very good from any point of view you look at it -talking multiplayer here.

But yes, I agree Origin is a joke compared to Steam and the whole browser stuff is a pain in the ass. I guess we were blackmailed and I personally agreed to pay what they asked for in order to play this game.

 

[Wrigleyvillain]

Origin sucks tho it is still new. It will never be Steam. Not sure they are really trying but, again, regardless...

Battlelog I really like, however.

 

[mediasorcerer]

i just cant believe that theyre going this route because of piracy?
that aside,it does feel like a big intrusion into your personal space,and like tigr mentioned who knows whats being "observed" of your private info,
it also seems to run by default at startup as was mentioned,
and when i close it,it minimises to tray instead of quitting,then u have to manually right click to close?
i dont know,alls i wanted to do was play the stupid[but great too] game,
call of battlefield modern warfare 3?haha,
trouble is,what do you do,not buy it and miss out? there isnt that many fps to choose from that are new releases,considering,


i would have felt more comfortable,if i had been given the ====CHOICE====== TO USE ORIGIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ps tigr how are you buddy hope you are well,kind regs frm me! thanx all for input,i guess im not alone with this,

 

[parelem]

Origin sucks tho it is still new. It will never be Steam. Not sure they are really trying but, again, regardless...

Battlelog I really like, however.

I feel the same; I don't care much for Origin and I was never a fan of EADM either, but I don't think Origin is such a hassle where I won't play the game. In fact, I think it's dumb for people to pass up a great game because Origin and Battlelog, neither impact the game all that much.

 

[robn]

...Origin can access any files it wants at any time on your hdd...

Uh, well so can any program, limited only by the access rights of who ever launched it...

As for Origin/EADM my experience is ok - I have it for NFS Hot Pursuit 2010 and Mirror's Edge.

To launch NFS there is a start menu icon just like any normal app, and Origin doesn't visibly load. If the EA server can't be reached during the game, there is a message in the menu, but you can keep playing, so seems OK there too.

I still don't like always-on Internet DRM, though it at least has potential benefits over all that SafeDisc/Securom/XCP trash which famously turned root-kit: game backups, Internet-stored saves and achievements to name a few. Hopefully Origin ends up as good as Steam. Steam famously started out a pile of utter crap back in 04, forced on anyone who wanted to play HL2!

 

[Sir B. Fannybottom]

Can anyone even find the chat support link on their site anymore? It seems like EA doesn't want people to solve their problems :c



EDIT: found it, but chat for some reason isn't working :C

 

[MatTheCat]

Evil Ampire again? Well the game has the best visuals to date in PC gaming history and is very good from any point of view you look at it -talking multiplayer here.

But yes, I agree Origin is a joke compared to Steam and the whole browser stuff is a pain in the ass. I guess we were blackmailed and I personally agreed to pay what they asked for in order to play this game.

Yeah...but Battlefield is the only online multiplayer title that EA got that is strong enough to sway people over to thier crappy DRM. Now that they are pushing people onto Origin, there is no way in the world am I going to pay for any other EA title that I want to play, no matter how good I think the game is (after having had my customary 'free trial').

Thier Origin DRM on BF3 has already been cracked for those who only want to play single player.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Uh, well so can any program, limited only by the access rights of who ever launched it...

As for Origin/EADM my experience is ok - I have it for NFS Hot Pursuit 2010 and Mirror's Edge.

To launch NFS there is a start menu icon just like any normal app, and Origin doesn't visibly load. If the EA server can't be reached during the game, there is a message in the menu, but you can keep playing, so seems OK there too.

I still don't like always-on Internet DRM, though it at least has potential benefits over all that SafeDisc/Securom/XCP trash which famously turned root-kit: game backups, Internet-stored saves and achievements to name a few. Hopefully Origin ends up as good as Steam. Steam famously started out a pile of utter crap back in 04, forced on anyone who wanted to play HL2!

The differance is that origin scans your personal files, see here-

Have a look here, there is no reason for origin to be looking in or scanning files in some of the places it does-

http://www.amazon.de/gp/forum/cd/discussion.html/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2K9EWQSCVBAKX&asin=B004M17DVM&cdThread=Tx2UXT8OUCRJD5M

Its upto everyone if you want this on your machine poking around into your personal files, i don't.

 

[1Kurgan1]

to my mind it was extremely stupid to use the BF3 launch to ram an unwanted platform down customers' throats and clearly I am not alone. Bad publicity hurts, as does ignoring the gaming community. There was simply no need.

When else would you expect them to do it? At a time when they have nothing that people want on it to offer? Their only chance to grab people from Steam is to release it at a time when they have a big season ahead, and with BF3, SWTOR, and NFS The Run, it just doesn't get any bigger than that for them. If they didn't force it upon people for the time being, and waited till there was no huge game to force people to use it, do you honestly think it would ever stand a chance against Steam? In order for Origin to succeed they had to do it. I'm not saying I'm an Origin fan, but I'm saying, think logically here, saying that it was stupid to do what they did makes no sense. You are talking as a user, think if you were top brass at EA, then say that move was stupid. People will be buying these games despite Origin, it's the best time to do it.

Its upto everyone if you want this on your machine poking around into your personal files, i don't.

We got that in your previous 2 posts(one of them in another thread).

Also forgot this
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey

 

[FordGT90Concept]

As far as I'm concerned, single player was never the focus of Battlefield games...

Excluding Bad Company, I think this is the first with anything that resembles a campaign. 1942, Vietnam, 2, and 2142 only had multiplayer with bots. Considering they're attacking it for actually having a campaign is kind of silly.

 

[H82LUZ73]

The differance is that origin scans your personal files, see here-

http://img.techpowerup.org/111029/fglehhsj.jpg

Have a look here, there is no reason for origin to be looking in or scanning files in some of the places it does-

http://www.amazon.de/gp/forum/cd/discussion.html/ref=cm_cd_fp_ef_tft_tp?ie=UTF8&cdForum=Fx2K9EWQSCVBAKX&asin=B004M17DVM&cdThread=Tx2UXT8OUCRJD5M

Its upto everyone if you want this on your machine poking around into your personal files, i don't.

So how is Punker Buster going to work looking for the hacker injector dll program...Like STEAM does not do this ,Some of you guys or I should say STEAM lover`s need to get over it not being there,I bet five bucks if it was on STEAM you would have bought it.But hey your decision not too buy it.More power to you,Enjoy that MW3 on STEAM and enjoy having to pay to play from their ELITE web-based server browser too......Web based server game`s are getting more and more popular get off your high horse.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

their getting the term multi threaded completely wrong here, four bits of shit running to play 1 game, origin ,punkshitter, iexplorer and the game itself plus os wtf, hows that the best way to use rescource, epic load times random crashing and then the cheaky gets are scanning my shit while i play,, EA = FAIL i cant be assed playing the shit now i own it damn

 

[1Kurgan1]

My load times are fine, PB has been in every BF game (so dont see the complaint there), Origin makes my computer giggle with the resources it requires, and if you are using IE that if your own fault. Also, my BF3 load times using the web browser to ingame are faster than BC2's were.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

yeh true evolution your right im wrong, haha

they need to scan my stuff because??
they couldnt have battlelog ingame because??
the level load times are still ages because??
and it randomly freezes and crashes because??

you seem the man with answers??

 

[1Kurgan1]

Steam scans your stuff, take off your tinfoil hat. And why are you complaining about Battlelog? Does it not work for you? Why are your load times slow, you might want to trouble shoot your computer before blaming the game. I have no issues with Battlelog, because it works, and it's got some nice options, and it would take time to load the game, then load the server. I can open Battlelog instantly from anywhere, and start a game if I chose, without having to wait for the main menus to load (wow honestly that sounds much better).

the level load times aren't ages, they are faster than BC2, something is wrong with your internet or your computer. And BC2 randomly froze, crashed, and flickered (infact it still does), so once again whats your point? The game honestly runs pretty great for just releasing. You seem to be the man with tears, and whats with the double question marks, I'm going to use !!1!!!!1! to combat those.

I really can't see what you are all hot and bothered about to be honest. No load times to start Battlelog, in-game loading is faster than BC2, the game is less buggy than BC2 was at launch. What exactly is the issue?

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

our views differ then and ive no tears, my pc has no issues at min as far as i can tell and every other game loads in a reasonable time compared to bf3 yeh i only have 30Mb internet but that should do, dont take my opinion as a review its just my opinion and the fact it works better for you wont change my opinion will it.
im not that bothered patches may sort it plus driver updates but imho the recent trend of releasing games as buggy as pc users are getting them is not on simples

 

[Mr McC]

When else would you expect them to do it? At a time when they have nothing that people want on it to offer? Their only chance to grab people from Steam is to release it at a time when they have a big season ahead, and with BF3, SWTOR, and NFS The Run, it just doesn't get any bigger than that for them. If they didn't force it upon people for the time being, and waited till there was no huge game to force people to use it, do you honestly think it would ever stand a chance against Steam? In order for Origin to succeed they had to do it. I'm not saying I'm an Origin fan, but I'm saying, think logically here, saying that it was stupid to do what they did makes no sense. You are talking as a user, think if you were top brass at EA, then say that move was stupid. People will be buying these games despite Origin, it's the best time to do it.

I neither expected or wished them to do it; however, you are correct, I'm speaking as a user. That said, it remains to be seen whether or not this platform will prove successful or whether EA will, once again, be forced to rectify and listen to the community. I read that legal proceedings have been initiated in Germany with regards to invasion of privacy, perhaps something will come of that and all the negative publicity. Consider a beautiful woman with venereal disease: it is true that she remains beautiful, but whether you decide to focus on this aspect whilst ignoring or tolerating her potentially dangerous medical condition is an individual choice. EA are hoping that most of us will focus on the immediate pleasure rather than the subsequent trip to the doctor.

 

[1Kurgan1]

our views differ then and ive no tears, my pc has no issues at min as far as i can tell and every other game loads in a reasonable time compared to bf3 yeh i only have 30Mb internet but that should do, dont take my opinion as a review its just my opinion and the fact it works better for you wont change my opinion will it.
im not that bothered patches may sort it plus driver updates but imho the recent trend of releasing games as buggy as pc users are getting them is not on simples

I've only got a 25mb connection, had 4 people at my house on launch night and we all loaded fine. Also know about 10 other people all playing on PC with fine load times. I've heard people complain about Battlelog, but load times being the problem isn't the things I have heard complaints about. I'm not looking to sway opinions, I'm just stating what I see. I didn't like the thought of Battlelog, but after using it, I don't feel any hate towards it. Most of my time in BC2 I spend with bfbcs.com open, and I would alt tab and look up enemies, but for me BC2 alt tabbing caused funny issues. Now BF3 since ran in a browser alt tabs great, loads fast, and has community + stat tracking built in. Just all wins for me to be honest. Origin is meh, they don't have great deals really, don't like the UI much, but I got 8gb of RAM to burn, so 50mb running that isn't a huge deal, as long as every other publisher doesn't follow suit and make they own digital distribution.

But as I say below, Origin and Battlelog are just in their infancy. I expect them to only get better. Battlelog I am pretty happy with as it sits, but some more stat tracking features would be nice, and see if they can cook up anything else thats interesting. Origin has a lot of work to do, but hopefully they keep their eye on Steam and take the advice of all those buying BF3, SWTOR, and NFS:TR, it could turn out to be something great.

I neither expected or wished them to do it; however, you are correct, I'm speaking as a user. That said, it remains to be seen whether or not this platform will prove successful or whether EA will, once again, be forced to rectify and listen to the community. I read that legal proceedings have been initiated in Germany with regards to invasion of privacy, perhaps something will come of that and all the negative publicity. Consider a beautiful woman with venereal disease: it is true that she remains beautiful, but whether you decide to focus on this aspect whilst ignoring or tolerating her potentially dangerous medical condition is an individual choice. EA are hoping that most of us will focus on the immediate pleasure rather than the subsequent trip to the doctor.

It's for certain that Origin is in it's infancy, no arguing that. And hopefully it changes for the better, these legal actions being taken might help mold it to something better.

 

[Darkleoco]

Battlelog works well and as for Origin going through files I don't really care, if it stops people from pirating BF3 then it works for me *shrugs*

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Trouble is, it wont stop people pirating it, as they already are.

 

[Darkleoco]

Give it some time and hopefully it will show some improvement in preventing piracy of BF3.

 

[1Kurgan1]

Trouble is, it wont stop people pirating it, as they already are.

Who cares, let them enjoy the SP, it's not what I play BF games for. Every game gets pirated, despite how much money they spend on DRM, it's like trying to stop the grass from growing. So I don't see the point in saying they pirate, making it sound like that wouldn't happen no matter what.

 

[NC37]

Excluding Bad Company, I think this is the first with anything that resembles a campaign. 1942, Vietnam, 2, and 2142 only had multiplayer with bots. Considering they're attacking it for actually having a campaign is kind of silly.

Well, Bad Company 1. I refuse to recognize Bad Company 2 as having a story since it was so obviously designed to lure CoD players. Never should have tried to enter the serious realm. Bad Company was meant to be a story about guys after gold, not saving the world, even if they did it while they were after the gold. B company isn't an elite special forces unit, they are the guys that are expendable.

Really I don't get all the hate on BF3's story. I liked it. Sure its only about 5-6hrs and there are pointless parts like the flight sequence (pointless in story connecting, not in showing cool visuals), but it was good. Had some great characters. Actually allowed me to feel for them like I did with BC1. Unlike MW which I could care less about as it went.

And as for Origin...I got it for BF3 and TOR. No way they'll entice me from Steam on anything else. Already passed up on some good sales on Origin because I know for sure...Steam holiday sales are comin! EA's program is like a beta version. Vastly inferior to Steam who they gave the finger to for their own selfish reasons. Plus...they have the nerve to name it after one of the game studios I loved which EA killed. That alone heavily offends me everytime I see the name not attached to the words "Wing Commander."

Would I feel the same if EA hadn't spurned Valve and Steam? Probably, but I wouldn't be as against it. Those recent sales I would have likely jumped on. Not super die hard Steam to the point I won't support newcomers if they have a decent service. Just EA went at it all wrong.