Building a modern system.

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

Thanks, all. I'm reading manuals for some of the recommendations.

User reviews counts too, manuals always try to hide the flaws,but given the quality of the recommendations you won't have to worry about that

 

[thesmokingman]

Thanks everyone for the replies; I spent hours looking over everything, comparing options, and I agree its vastly overpowered, and not at all what he was looking for.

Like I wrote before it's not vastly overpowered, it's only a 16 core cpu that is stupidly overpriced. And the kicker is that your friend would not be using anything that that chip is intended for so it's even more wasteful. The 12 and 16 core TR Pro chips are not powerhouses, they are for specific use cases liek the 5 guys in the world who demand a stupid high amount of pcie lanes.

And on topic of a longterm build, anything you build now is a dead socket and dead platform end thread.

We're in the middle of a major changeover to pcie5 and more importantly DDR5. Thus anything you build now will be yesterday's news next year. I'd also add that the top cpu today from AMD will not be the top next year given that AMD is throwing down IPC and threaded gains generation over generation that we have never seen before. Next year the 5950x will be 20%-30% slower than its Zen 4 replacement, easily.

You don't build a top end machine at the end of the platform's cycle. There'll be nothing to replace that cpu with down the line cuz you're already at the end fo the line.

 

[Grog6]

Like I wrote before it's not vastly overpowered, it's only a 16 core cpu that is stupidly overpriced. And the kicker is that your friend would not be using anything that that chip is intended for so it's even more wasteful. The 12 and 16 core TR Pro chips are not powerhouses, they are for specific use cases liek the 5 guys in the world who demand a stupid high amount of pcie lanes.

And on topic of a longterm build, anything you build now is a dead socket and dead platform end thread.

We're in the middle of a major changeover to pcie5 and more importantly DDR5. Thus anything you build now will be yesterday's news next year. I'd also add that the top cpu today from AMD will not be the top next year given that AMD is throwing down IPC and threaded gains generation over generation that we have never seen before. Next year the 5950x will be 20%-30% slower than its Zen 4 replacement, easily.

You don't build a top end machine at the end of the platform's cycle. There'll be nothing to replace that cpu with down the line cuz you're already at the end fo the line.

I agree; I usually end up buying at least one replacement CPU, and usually a few different video cards in the life of a computer.
I know all about eol memory; I was one of the idiots that bought into 32-bit RAMBUS. They never made many>256MB memory modules, for a grand total of 512MB/pc being all that was available.
I figured eventually make some, or they would pop up on ebay, but no.

I read so many manuals yesterday that they're all blended together today, lol.

 

[dragontamer5788]

I agree; I usually end up buying at least one replacement CPU, and usually a few different video cards in the life of a computer.
I know all about eol memory; I was one of the idiots that bought into 32-bit RAMBUS. They never made many>256MB memory modules, for a grand total of 512MB/pc being all that was available.
I figured eventually make some, or they would pop up on ebay, but no.

I read so many manuals yesterday that they're all blended together today, lol.

The time for long-term buy was 2018 or so: when DDR4 was mature and transitioning to PCIe 4.0 was beginning to take place. But its now 2021: DDR4 is soon to be replaced and PCIe 5.0 will replace PCIe 4.0 soon afterwards. I'm not entirely sure if a replacement CPU for this generation / timing really makes sense.

It might be possible. Maybe if Zen4 or Zen5 remain DDR4 compatible for older motherboards... but its very likely that AMD will lock those new processors to DDR5-only.

 

[Grog6]

We were able to get together, and discuss options, and he's going to order one of the cheap "x79" mobos, and we'll build him a system out of my parts stash; I have a bunch of old stuff I've upgraded over the years.

 

[Grog6]

Well, guys and gals, I built this beast.
I ended up with the 24core threadripper,and an asrock mobo.
It's incredible.
The asus AIO 360 keeps it cool even in handbrake

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

Well, guys and gals, I built this beast.
I ended up with the 24core threadripper,and an asrock mobo.
It's incredible.
The asus AIO 360 keeps it cool even in handbrake

Thread ripper for gaming...

FAIL

Should have bought him a 5950x, thread ripper have core latency issues which results in micro stutters in games, thread ripper are only good for workstation, rendering, and server builds, the moment gaming comes to mind get something else

This whole thing feels like a troll thread, you've disregarded every good recommendation from other members thinking you are mister know it all,and in the end the only one who got trolled was your friend, case you gave him a platform that was never intended for his use case at all ( an almost end of life one too, cause its DDR4, DDR5 is by the end of the year ) and because of that there will be some performance nuances.

good job, man... i feel sorry for your friend

 

[Ruru]

Nothing to complain IMO, futureproofing is okay.

 

[GorbazTheDragon]

lol