Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Jan 13, 2011.
I own a few games that utilize all 6 of my cores.
Being an Avid AMD Fanboy and lover of their procs, I take this with less than a grain of salt. IF true, well done and about time, but you have to look at this within reason of what Intel has been doing since AMD whooped its ass and it came back strong and continues to do so. I will wait to see performance numbers but hopefully the new architecture will be amazing.
What else besides BF3?
Funny that this thread has been dug back up. 10 months later and now we know the answers.
This thread is old... No sense in beating a dead horse it should be locked
Shogun, F1, Any source game, Supreme Commander and a dozen others.
AMD also shared with us that Windows 7 isn't really all that optimized for Bulldozer. Given AMD's unique multi-core module architecture, the OS scheduler needs to know when to place threads on a single module (with shared caches) vs. on separate modules with dedicated caches. Windows 7's scheduler isn't aware of Bulldozer's architecture and as a result sort of places threads wherever it sees fit, regardless of optimal placement. Windows 8 is expected to correct this,
some said ms was working on patch for win7 to fix this.
the extra PCI-E lanes make me think it may be worth it for crossfire/SLI
edit: really, windows 8? thats an interesting comment
Oh you caught that too...Yeah...kinda like spitting in someones wound to get the salt to spread better.
Let me clarify that for you...
It's nothing fancy really.
Bulldozer has 4 "packages". Each of them contains 2 cores.
For Turbo mode to work correctly, workload must be on a single package. If workload splits between 2 cores between 2 packages, the cpu won't be able to turn off cores that are not in use.
Bulldozer can turn off "package" but not individual core.
If its true then
seems like what they wanted but not what they achieved... especially when you compare it to PII X6 1100T or X4 980, let alone the last 2 generations of core i5/i7....
I am so idssapointed in Bulldozer, almost heartbroken... I wanted it to succeed and compete against SB quite badly, but it's almost like they are still in the water at the moment, they added 2 cores but made each core do less than a PII... ?
Woa, what happened between January an October?
We were trying to kill off this thread, and now you resurrected it
Only mods can truly kill threads!
i dont think they can kill news threads. anyhoo keep to topic or leave this thread.
I find it funny that I was warning about the poor marketing creating false expectations for months before the launch, as seen in the quote above, from back in January.
Nothing really changed over those months, per se...at least for myself.
No need to hide this thread!
We know you said that, you've mentioned how you've said that multiple times. Really the best strategy that i think most people should take is to not expect things will go a certain way no matter what people are saying, as the only people who were really mad or sad about the FX chips were people who saw ''new architecture'' written everywhere and hence proceeded to wet their pants and expect more then what they got.
When it comes to this thread though, even a blind man could of easily seen that this threads prediction was not going to come true, 50% faster then a Core i7 is significant and felt mroe like wishful thinking as opposed to anything factual.
Aren't you people tired of this conversation yet? Don't get me wrong, I find most of you amusing.
Sure. But it seems that I cannot stress this point enough. I'm not some boy-genius or anything..as you say, it's obvious, but many have ignored the obvious.
I'll be using this same example for some time, not because I'm tooting my own horn...but because really, I don't know jack. It's pretty painful to see peopel ignore the obvious, and then be upset because of it.
meh. Bulldozer will be talked about for years and years. I still cannot get FX-8120 or FX-8150 in lcoal shops, and I was at them all yesterday. Not ONE chip has come into town yet. Until it does, this is the best and closest I can get to playing with my own.
Well since we are on topic, what about this post about the Bulldozer's L1, L2 and L3 cache. What I am reading is Bulldozer may need a complete cache overhaul. Am I correct? Or AMD can fix this with minor process revisions and tweaks.
I honestly thought that they had a chance though. AMD's marketing team did a great job of leading me to believe that they were on to something. Oh well, lesson learned.
Truer words I have not heard spoken in a long time.
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