Codemasters wants to sell incomplete games

[Phxprovost]

i find it amusing that of all publishers codemasters is the one trying this, Activision could get away with it, EA might be able to....but codemasters? Its a pretty bold move for such a small publisher

 

[HookeyStreet]

Oh yes read this, they want you to buy incomplete games, buying parts of the game to move forward in the game, and if they do try to implement this in their games I will never buy another codemasters game


http://beefjack.com/news/codemasters-not-inconceivable-to-start-selling-incomplete-games-at-retail/

As soon as they mention PIRACY you know they are trying to cover up GREED! If you want to nobble piracy in an instant, you print each instruction manual with a one time only activation code that unlocks the games playback.

This move, like all DLC and the new online play redeemable codes, is to make extra money and destroy the used game trade, nothing more.

Piracy is used to justify greed!

 

[mdsx1950]

Everything gets cracked. DLCs also will be cracked. Everything and anything can be cracked.

 

[yogurt_21]

yogurt, do you not realize you are trying to quantify entertainment value? just because it is not worth it to you does not mean you are the end all answerer of the question. it's up to each individual whether it is worth it or not for them. there can be something said about the ethics of the situation, in regards to the companies themselves - but that is far from having a concrete objective answer either.

you are arguing your opinion and only that, which is fine - it's just very different from arguing using facts or logic. you can rarely influence someone based solely on your own opinions. your opinion that it is not worth it, and others' opinions that it is - are both equally valid and invalid, as they are OPINIONS.

FACT accepting high game costs on a single premise will cause other premises to be acceptible.

so because wow can get away with 180$ a year plus 50$ an expansion will make paying extra for downloadable content acceptible. Because its acceptible, people will pay it. This means that by default people have accepted paying more for the same game content as in the past (albeit with prettier graphics)

Whatever you regard those games as, it's incorrect. Somehow mmo's have been given a higher level of credence than any other game type, which is also incorrect. Every person values different things in games and to say that mmo's are allowed to charge triple or more for the same playtime while others are not is ridiculous. sure people log thousands of hours on mmo's but people also log thousands of hours on online fps and yet they don't have to pay for it.

the kind of attitude that accepts mmo's at their high cost without batting a lash is the kind that will have us paying 60$ for a 20 hour game and 20$ per extra 5 hours of content.

 

[HookeyStreet]

Everything gets cracked. DLCs also will be cracked. Everything and anything can be cracked.

DLC for the XBOX was cracked ages ago. It just required you to own a JTAG modified console and for you to keep said console offline forever. But if you enjoy MP gaming, this kind of thing is pointless.

But forcing you to purchase a code to unlock certain aspects of the game isnt something that can be easily worked around, hence moves like this being directed at the used game trade, not piracy like they would have people believe.

 

[qubit]

This is retarded. Looks like DiRT 2 was my last purchase from them.

Wow, absolutely retarded. <gag> They're effectively making you pay for a f* demo and then charging you more and more to build it up to a full game.

Seriously, if I got going, I'd turn the air blue with naughty words. Bastards.

It's not about piracy, it's about the used game market. Publishers don't see a penny of used game sales, only the store does. They hate the idea of not making more money on their games. Therefore they want to implement this because it's a way of ensuring revenue from used game sales.

Another version I have heard is that they want to release the extra stuff free, but only to people who buy the game new, which would cause the used game market to collapse. Tho publishers don't tend to give stuff away for free, so the first one is more likely,

And even bigger greedy bastards. We all know games publishers have no right to prevent you selling your game or trying to double dip from you when you do, due to the first sale doctrine.

I will not be buying any of their products with immediate effect. This applies to any other software houses that try this on. And if it means that I end up buying fewer and fewer games due to the all the boycotts, then so be it.

These blatant rippoffs are what's causing the PC games market to "die".

 

[Frick]

As soon as they mention PIRACY you know they are trying to cover up GREED! If you want to nobble piracy in an instant, you print each instruction manual with a one time only activation code that unlocks the games playback.

This move, like all DLC and the new online play redeemable codes, is to make extra money and destroy the used game trade, nothing more.

Piracy is used to justify greed!

How about "loss of income" instead. Piracy is a real problem, so of course devs try different way to combat it.

I hate DLC with a passion BTW, and I don't see how Codemasters is any worse than previous offenders.

BTW, it was a huge marketing mistake to use the word "incomplete" there. If he had swung the words differntly it wouldn't get this reaction.

 

[KainXS]

this isn't combating piracy every single DLC I can think of has been hacked and uploaded so pirates could play it for free except the ones for MMO's for obvious reasons,

money, money, money

 

[Frick]

this isn't combating piracy every single DLC I can think of has been hacked and uploaded so pirates could play it for free except the ones for MMO's for obvious reasons,

money, money, money

It's combating, but it isn't winning.

 

[HookeyStreet]

How about "loss of income" instead. Piracy is a real problem, so of course devs try different way to combat it.

I hate DLC with a passion BTW, and I don't see how Codemasters is any worse than previous offenders.

BTW, it was a huge marketing mistake to use the word "incomplete" there. If he had swung the words differntly it wouldn't get this reaction.

The used game trade takes far more income from games companies than piracy does (well it does for the console, not so much PC I would say).

 

[WhiteNoise]

I'll just torrent their games out if they do this then. Grids the last game I bought from them.

And thats why companies are wanting to do stuff like this. They lose millions of dollars a year due to piracy. These companies see their losses and then think of ways to get their money back.

The legit buyers of the games are the ones that end up suffering. The people who pirate the games sit back and laugh while they are playing them for free.

Can you imagine how much better games would be if the devs received money for every game if there were no pirating or renting of games?
Gaming might be on a whole other level.

 

[digibucc]

And thats why companies are wanting to do stuff like this. They lose millions of dollars a year due to piracy. These companies see their losses and then think of ways to get their money back.

The legit buyers of the games are the ones that end up suffering. The people who pirate the games sit back and laugh while they are playing them for free.

Can you imagine how much better games would be if the devs received money for every game if there were no pirating or renting of games?
Gaming might be on a whole other level.

first off, the piracy debate has been covered many times. in being honest you have to admit that there are a large number of people, devs and industry execs - that say piracy isn't making nearly as much of an impact as the companies say it is.

yes pirating is wrong, but it's simply a different world in regards to digital information. they are NOT seeing losses. they are seeing their games not sell well for various reasons, seeing COPIES online, being shared by people who 90% of which would never have bought the game, and saying a=b , when it very well does not.

I agree the legit users suffer, not the pirates. but it is the game companies who continue to show their customers just how little they think of them. and it is the customers who keep lapping it up, saying give me more. the pirates are just watching from the sidelines, getting in some free time. how little does piracy have to be before they can stop screwing customers? when do you think they will? when 10% of people playing are pirates? when 1% when .1%? how many people does there need to be to justify the lengths they go to?

just like companies charging $50 for a 3 hour game use the money to create better games - NOT more 3 hour crap games, right? (sarcasm)
they will do what sells. they are not in it for the art, or for creating amazing games. they are screwing around with formulas to see how much we buy of what, and then they mass produce that. I would make the argument that companies like EA, Ubi, Bliz, etc are too big for theirs and our own good. once you are pumping out multiple, 50-100 million $$ titles a year, there is no way you are focusing on the art. it's all the $$$.

 

[phanbuey]

It actually kind of makes sense... i would love to have bought, say FarCry 2 and only paid for like 1/4 of the game... it would have taken me that long to realize what a steamy pile of waste it was, and would have bought something better.

Its a model that will never work. Because alot of people buy the game realizing that they dont like it 1/2 of the way through, or they simply dont play it after a while. If anything they would shoot themselves in the foot hardcore because they would lower their revenues and still have to develop the other half of the game later on. But that's just IMO.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

eitherway they do this and if shit continues i just wont buy games or pc hardware anymore ill just go back to reading alot of fucking books and get back into Fishing seriously things are so bad in the game industry in terms of quality length gameplay value violated customers rights. Id rather take the cash im flushing down the drain go buy a new fishing rod a new reel tackle box and go fishing. more relaxing far cheaper and the thrill is about the same.

 

[f22a4bandit]

eitherway they do this and if shit continues i just wont buy games or pc hardware anymore ill just go back to reading alot of fucking books and get back into Fishing seriously things are so bad in the game industry in terms of quality length gameplay value violated customers rights. Id rather take the cash im flushing down the drain go buy a new fishing rod a new reel tackle box and go fishing. more relaxing far cheaper and the thrill is about the same.

I couldn't agree more with you, Crazy. I enjoy playing games as much as I do reading, fishing, playing sports or any other of a million activities. I've found myself losing interesting in games, except for the FIFA, Gran Turismo, Civilization and Total War series. Companies can make a great game and make a lot of money. In fact, they'd make more money if they made AWESOME games instead of mediocre games. Instead, they're happy making money while barely working at all.

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

dont get me wrong i know what it takes to do the 3d side of making a game and it can be extremely demanding and harsh but some of the stuff that slides today is ridiculous because of the sell first patch later and offer DLC day one mentality. I think im gonna buy me an old school super nintendo and other consoles from back in the1990s and not bother with this shit anymore. IF i game it will just be old school at least games like Vagrant Story, Star Ocean on the PS1 the Grandia titles Gran Turismo 1-2, the old FF games The Original Medal of Honor, and other such awesome games will keep me occupied. Those games at least took awhile to beat and were fun. I like pretty graphics but not if im gonna get a game thats 3 god damn hours long... $60 for 3 hrs??? sorry douchebags ill just go to a strip club with $60 in singles and have a way better time they playing there garbage shit that gets pushed out the door. Oh and for those games that are longer... im sorry you still suck so my $60 is still better spent with some skank jiggling her cheeks in my face.

 

[gunsmoke]

eitherway they do this and if shit continues i just wont buy games or pc hardware anymore ill just go back to reading alot of fucking books and get back into Fishing seriously things are so bad in the game industry in terms of quality length gameplay value violated customers rights. Id rather take the cash im flushing down the drain go buy a new fishing rod a new reel tackle box and go fishing. more relaxing far cheaper and the thrill is about the same.

Snap on that one,
games just don,t cut it any more now days ;(
Call it old age or just bean steuben with old age
My Only interest is p.c hard were girls Drink and sleep lmao

 

[pr0n Inspector]

lol Trying to copy iOS games I see. Except most contents are 99 cents each on iOS.