Did you get a shiny new Ryzen 3000 CPU?

[gasolina]

i wonder if the 3600 will do fine for 2560x1440 144hz or 3200x1800 144hz with a pair of 2080ti .......will try to oc it with my x370 to 4.4 though......my 1700x can't handle these 2 gpus at 1440p a little better at 3200.

 

[TheLostSwede]

And it's built...
Still need to tweak things a bit, it doesn't seem to boost the way it should though, as I've not seen core clocks over 4.4GHz...
RAM doesn't want to run with XMP enabled, so going to have to tweak that manually for now.
Still not happy with the case...

AMD Ryzen 7 3800X @ 4224.02 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[3l0g5x] Validated Dump by OVERLORD-MK-MX (2019-07-14 14:13:22) - MB: Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER - RAM: 16384 MB

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For some reason 3DMark won't let me submit the result online...

 

[frostybe3r]

Yes.

http://imgur.com/KKMVmAT

http://imgur.com/7YIgPJS

http://imgur.com/QKjT40Q

 

[Deleted member 178884]

No, But I got a X299 Omega 2 days ago now

 

[trog100]

And it's built...
Still need to tweak things a bit, it doesn't seem to boost the way it should though, as I've not seen core clocks over 4.4GHz...
RAM doesn't want to run with XMP enabled, so going to have to tweak that manually for now.
Still not happy with the case...

AMD Ryzen 7 3800X @ 4199.02 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[lpxepj] Validated Dump by OVERLORD-MK-MX (2019-07-14 12:00:07) - MB: Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER - RAM: 16384 MB

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a comparison with my air cooled 9900k at 4.8.. very similar..

Intel Core i9 9900K @ 4801.15 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[zne8lr] Validated Dump by Anonymous (2019-07-14 12:16:51) - MB: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING - RAM: 32768 MB

valid.x86.fr

trog

 

[Anzlew]

Just yesterday i've installed a Ryzen 7 3700x on my MSI b350 Tomahawk Arctic and after couple of tests and 3 hours od playing everything looks fine. Today i have rendered an image in 3ds Max and the CPU and Vrm temps was max 56 and 51 deg C . The whole process took around 12min. I am very happy with this upgrade. Good work AMD.

 

[TheLostSwede]

a comparison with my air cooled 9900k at 4.8.. very similar..

Intel Core i9 9900K @ 4801.15 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[zne8lr] Validated Dump by Anonymous (2019-07-14 12:16:51) - MB: Asus ROG STRIX Z370-F GAMING - RAM: 32768 MB

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trog

Managed to improve things slightly. It doesn't seem to want to boost a whole heap though, so not sure it was worth it over a 3700X...

AMD Ryzen 7 3800X @ 4200.52 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[ztiub6] Validated Dump by OVERLORD-MK-MX (2019-07-14 16:01:57) - MB: Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER - RAM: 16384 MB

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Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. X570 AORUS MASTER - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. X570 AORUS MASTER with an AMD Ryzen 7 3800X processor.

browser.geekbench.com

Edit: The memory timing of my RAM and what this CPU will run or won't run is really rather odd to say the least...

 

[Xx__Just_The_Tip_UwU__xX]

Managed to improve things slightly. It doesn't seem to want to boost a whole heap though, so not sure it was worth it over a 3700X...

AMD Ryzen 7 3800X @ 4200.52 MHz - CPU-Z VALIDATOR

[ztiub6] Validated Dump by OVERLORD-MK-MX (2019-07-14 16:01:57) - MB: Gigabyte X570 AORUS MASTER - RAM: 16384 MB

valid.x86.fr

Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. X570 AORUS MASTER - Geekbench

Benchmark results for a Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd. X570 AORUS MASTER with an AMD Ryzen 7 3800X processor.

browser.geekbench.com

Edit: The memory timing of my RAM and what this CPU will run or won't run is really rather odd to say the least...

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The memory latency on Zen 2 looks pretty bad. Would have thought the chips only using 1 chiplet would do better in that regard... I get around 63ns running my 2700X with 32gb 3200 MHz CL14-14-14-28

 

[frostybe3r]

Here's mine.

http://imgur.com/HdTQr7Y

 

[TheLostSwede]

The memory latency on Zen 2 looks pretty bad. Would have thought the chips only using 1 chiplet would do better in that regard... I get around 63ns running my 2700X with 32gb 3200 MHz CL14-14-14-28

Well, I don't have the very best RAM either...
Point proven by the post above.

Here's mine.

http://imgur.com/HdTQr7Y

That's extremely good. Care to share board and RAM?

 

[Xx__Just_The_Tip_UwU__xX]

Well, I don't have the very best RAM either...
Point proven by the post above.


That's extremely good. Care to share board and RAM?

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Thought your ram clock was quite decent.

 

[frostybe3r]

Well, I don't have the very best RAM either...
Point proven by the post above.


That's extremely good. Care to share board and RAM?

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8Pack Xtreem/Crosshair VIII Formula.

 

[TheLostSwede]

8Pack Xtreem/Crosshair VIII Formula.

So very, very, very hand picked RAM. Makes sense.

 

[Zareek]

RAM doesn't want to run with XMP enabled, so going to have to tweak that manually for now.

Same deal here, XMP a no go but I was able to manually tweak the RAM to slightly better than XMP settings with extra voltage(1.5VDDR). My chip has boosted to 4.55Ghz according HWiNFO64 and it's maintained 4.25Ghz all cores running Handbrake x265 for about 24 hours now. That doesn't really fully load the cores like a Prime95 or anything. I think it's AVX based on the x265 documentation. Runs anywhere from 50 to 100% faster than my 1700x ran it. I gotta queue a head to head to verify. I figure it's a nice burn-in that has some use to it, 65.7C average so far.

 

[Xzibit]

Still not happy with the case...

That's the 275Q right ?.. I was going to get that because I'm not a fan of PSU shrouds but when i saw it in person the front intake gap was too thin.

 

[TheLostSwede]

Not blow away by the 3800X, at least not compared to the 3700X.
This was during a run of Prime 95 and although it runs nice and cool for what it is and in this case seemingly boosts well within what should be expected with all cores loaded, but I can't get it to boost to even 4.4GHz when loading a single core??
It's also quite obvious that even given a free power budget, the CPU simply doesn't use it, regardless of cooling, which makes the video AMD posted a little while ago, pure BS.
In fact, I'm within AMD's power budget for the 65W TDP parts, whereas this is supposed to be a 105W TDP part.
I have a feeling that they might end up with a class action law suit in the US over this, as they seemingly over promised and under delivered when it comes to the boost clocks.
I'm not going to say I feel cheated, but I would say as much as AMD either need to sort out whatever it is that prevents these chips from boosting properly, or simply stop offering the 3800X as it offers so little extra performance over the 3700X that it's just silly.
No wonder they didn't seed any 3800X parts to reviewers.

Edit: Added a screenshot with the top single core boost I can get. This is just CPU-Z stressing a single core. I get same boosts with two cores, but four or more, it's stuck at 4.3GHz.
Pretty much the same behaviour as the 3700X as tested by @W1zzard https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-3700x/20.html
I guess I have gained an extra 100MHz on all core boost, but he was using the boxed cooler and I'm no a 280mm AIO liquid cooler...

Tweaked my RAM settings a smidgen more as well, but this is as far as I can push it, while still having a stable system.
Admittedly "cheap" RAM, but not too bad.

Ok, a bit more tinkering got me to consistent 4,400MHz boosts, but that's a hard ceiling right now.

 

[Zareek]

Not blow away by the 3800X, at least not compared to the 3700X.
This was during a run of Prime 95 and although it runs nice and cool for what it is and in this case seemingly boosts well within what should be expected with all cores loaded, but I can't get it to boost to even 4.4GHz when loading a single core??
It's also quite obvious that even given a free power budget, the CPU simply doesn't use it, regardless of cooling, which makes the video AMD posted a little while ago, pure BS.
In fact, I'm within AMD's power budget for the 65W TDP parts, whereas this is supposed to be a 105W TDP part.
I have a feeling that they might end up with a class action law suit in the US over this, as they seemingly over promised and under delivered when it comes to the boost clocks.
I'm not going to say I feel cheated, but I would say as much as AMD either need to sort out whatever it is that prevents these chips from boosting properly, or simply stop offering the 3800X as it offers so little extra performance over the 3700X that it's just silly.
No wonder they didn't seed any 3800X parts to reviewers.

Edit: Added a screenshot with the top single core boost I can get. This is just CPU-Z stressing a single core. I get same boosts with two cores, but four or more, it's stuck at 4.3GHz.
Pretty much the same behaviour as the 3700X as tested by @W1zzard https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-7-3700x/20.html
I guess I have gained an extra 100MHz on all core boost, but he was using the boxed cooler and I'm no a 280mm AIO liquid cooler...

Based on most people's experiences, I'm theorizing they haven't been able to bin enough chips to fill this product sku. I bet their marketing team was directed to put the spotlight on the 3700X. No one seems to be even considering the 3800X.

I have been able to hit 4.5 and 4.55 but only for short bursts. The biggest issue is the Windows scheduler is bouncing the threads from core to core. It seems like each core has a different max clock too. By manually assigning a single Prime 95 thread to my starred core and setting high priority. I was able to hit 4.5Ghz but I couldn't get a screen of it. The best I was able to screen is this 4.498Ghz. For some reason the clock speed changes a lot more at lower thread priorities and it seems any other thread running including Ryzen Master will kick down the clock by 500Mhz or more. The 4498 seen here ran for maybe 30 seconds before changing to 4450 then back up slowly to 4480 for another 30 seconds. This is all stock except RAM, I had to manually tweak the RAM to where it is. This Corsair kit sucks, I got it originally when I got the Ryzen 1700X and on that it never ran stable beyond 2933. Corsair XMP = worthless!

 

[TheLostSwede]

Based on most people's experiences, I'm theorizing they haven't been able to bin enough chips to fill this product sku. I bet their marketing team was directed to put the spotlight on the 3700X. No one seems to be even considering the 3800X.

I have been able to hit 4.5 and 4.55 but only for short bursts. The biggest issue is the Windows scheduler is bouncing the threads from core to core. It seems like each core has a different max clock too. By manually assigning a single Prime 95 thread to my starred core and setting high priority. I was able to hit 4.5Ghz but I couldn't get a screen of it. The best I was able to screen is this 4.498Ghz. For some reason the clock speed changes a lot more at lower thread priorities and it seems any other thread running including Ryzen Master will kick down the clock by 500Mhz or more. The 4498 seen here ran for maybe 30 seconds before changing to 4450 then back up slowly to 4480 for another 30 seconds. This is all stock except RAM, I had to manually tweak the RAM to where it is. This Corsair kit sucks, I got it originally when I got the Ryzen 1700X and on that it never ran stable beyond 2933. Corsair XMP = worthless!

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Look at that, better boost clock than promised. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu....!!
I can't get 1MHz over 4.4GHz and I think I have tinkered with just about every related setting in the UEFI.

Agree on the Corsair RAM, although I got mine to 3066 in the end, but anything faster ended in BSOD after a little while. LPX I presume?

Yeah, that's not working for me at all. Set the affinity, still using at least two cores, but apparently even more...

 

[Zareek]

Look at that, better boost clock than promised. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu....!!
I can't get 1MHz over 4.4GHz and I think I have tinkered with just about every related setting in the UEFI.

Agree on the Corsair RAM, although I got mine to 3066 in the end, but anything faster ended in BSOD after a little while. LPX I presume?

Yes LPX, on their approved list for Ryzen 3000 series too. I will be switching the 3800X to the G.Skill Flare X kit from the 1700X when it goes in the case. Not to rub it in but I'm getting those clocks on the included Wraith Prism/stock TIM. I'm a little worried the results might get worse going to the H60 now. We will find out Wednesday when the Kyronaut gets here...

 

[P4-630]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1150563418128056320

But, just one core.

TSAIK`s CPU Frequency score: 5911.3 mhz with a Ryzen 7 3800X

The Ryzen 7 3800X @ 5911.3MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the CPU Frequency benchmark. TSAIKranks #null worldwide and #3 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.

hwbot.org

 

[advanced3]

Look at that, better boost clock than promised. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu....!!
I can't get 1MHz over 4.4GHz and I think I have tinkered with just about every related setting in the UEFI.

Agree on the Corsair RAM, although I got mine to 3066 in the end, but anything faster ended in BSOD after a little while. LPX I presume?

Yeah, that's not working for me at all. Set the affinity, still using at least two cores, but apparently even more...

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I have never seen my 3700x boost to 4.4....It seems to max out at 4.325

 

[TheLostSwede]

Yes LPX, on their approved list for Ryzen 3000 series too. I will be switching the 3800X to the G.Skill Flare X kit from the 1700X when it goes in the case. Not to rub it in but I'm getting those clocks on the included Wraith Prism/stock TIM. I'm a little worried the results might get worse going to the H60 now. We will find out Wednesday when the Kyronaut gets here...

Yeah, same RAM then, but mine doesn't seem to work half as well as yours.

Anything you tweaked in the UEFI?

I have never seen my 3700x boost to 4.4....It seems to max out at 4.325

Yeah, I was stuck at 4.375 for the longest of times. Not quite sure what changed.

 

[Zareek]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1150563418128056320

But, just one core.

TSAIK`s CPU Frequency score: 5911.3 mhz with a Ryzen 7 3800X

The Ryzen 7 3800X @ 5911.3MHzscores getScoreFormatted in the CPU Frequency benchmark. TSAIKranks #null worldwide and #3 in the hardware class. Find out more at HWBOT.

hwbot.org

LN2 is like drag racing, I'd rather watch F1. That being said impressive

Yeah, same RAM then, but mine doesn't seem to work half as well as yours.

Anything you tweaked in the UEFI?


Yeah, I was stuck at 4.375 for the longest of times. Not quite sure what changed.

Nothing all stock. I updated to the latest F4d bios. I also have a POS graphics card it in it, I seriously doubt that brings any advantage.

Look at that, better boost clock than promised. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu....!!
I can't get 1MHz over 4.4GHz and I think I have tinkered with just about every related setting in the UEFI.

Agree on the Corsair RAM, although I got mine to 3066 in the end, but anything faster ended in BSOD after a little while. LPX I presume?

Yeah, that's not working for me at all. Set the affinity, still using at least two cores, but apparently even more...

Something else seems to grabbing CPU time. Also, have you tried re-seating the block/pump(air pocket maybe)? I bet you can hit higher clocks if you can do two things. Find out what is still grabbing CPU time from the other cores and get the thermals under 70C.

All core I will get 4.3Ghz for 30 seconds then it backs off to 4.26 and will hold there for 15 minutes but then the cooler starts loosing the fight and it will back down to 4.167Ghz and hold at around 80C. It seems to pull back when the temperature is over 70C and it is trying to set the best clock to hold 80C.

 

[robot zombie]

I've been blowing my build fundage on other stuff. I just bought a new camera... which I'll soon be buying another lens for. Next I'm probably gonna swing $800 on a new guitar...

Money stacks quick for me these days... chances are I'll wind up with a 3700x in a new 570 build by winter... full custom loop - my first one. But for the next several years I feel my 2600 x370 build will be my go-to machine. If I'm honest with myself my current build is so perfect for me I struggle to accept it at times.

But I kinda wanna do another just to do it. Go into excess just to have something to play with. I avoid fucking with the build in my specs because of how well it works for me. Zen+ hexacores are bangin chips! But I really miss having something to build up and improve on.

My main curiosity is how high end ryzen will handle 4k. 2600 build is great for 1080p in the bedroom... like it is just so efficient for 60hz/1080p gaming while also being a snappy multitasker. Very rare that it goes over 50w OCd to 4ghz all core. But it would sure be awesome to have a crazy Ryzen centerpiece build for gaming on the 4k TV in the living room. Obviously I could just go Intel but that's no fun Fwiw I'd like to have it crunch on downtime, too.

But I guess either way I have to wait to do that. Number one it needs time in the wild for limitations to be discovered and bugs worked out. Not to mention I'm not super big on 4k GPU options right now.

So no shiny new Ryzen for me for now.

 

[frostybe3r]

http://imgur.com/ZgzOCot