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Dilemma: Core i7 920 or Phenom II 955

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Dilemma Gone: Core i7 920 - But What RAM and Mobo ?

Okay. Here's the situation.

I am building myself a second gaming rig to sit at my parent's place and in general re-organizing my computer hardware. Currently I have:

Rig 1:
Q9650
DFI LP JR P45 TR2S
6Gb DDR2

HTPC:
Q6700
Abit I-N73HD
3Gb DDR2

My latest project is modding a small case. I wanted to put the DFI LP JR 790GX in there and get the Phenom II X4 940 for that rig. The small case was supposed to run my 9600GT with a 8600GT thrown in for physics. My parents are flying over to the states in a few days, and I asked them to bring me 8Gb of G.Skill Pi 1100Mhz.

I sold a huge bunch of stuff, and suddenly I have plenty of money I wanted to spend on the other rig and this got me thinking: Why not put my Q9650 in the secondary rig with the mATX board, and get a full ATX mobo and CPU for my main rig instead ? The price difference is minor, but that way I don't limit myself to PCI-E 2.0 x8 slots on both my systems and I make the leap to DDR3.

The dilemma is between 3x2Gb of DDR3 and the Core i7 920, or 4x2Gb DDR3 and the Phenom II X4 955.

What do you guys say ?
 
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i7 no contest.
 
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already, the PII 955 is a better choice than the 940... But i7 for sure...

Now the question is WHAT parts... I would go DFI DK x58 (220+ship = 230$), i7 920 (230$+tax from microcenter) and 3x2gb of cheap ddr3 1600mhz cas 7 OCZ RAM (about 80$... max 100$)

That should be about 550$! As gor GPU, wait for DX11 cards to come out in Q4 2009
 
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already, the PII 955 is a better choice than the 940... But i7 for sure...

Now the question is WHAT parts... I would go DFI DK x58 (220+ship = 230$), i7 920 (230$+tax from microcenter) and 3x2gb of cheap ddr3 1600mhz cas 7 OCZ RAM (about 80$... max 100$)

That should be about 550$! As gor GPU, wait for DX11 cards to come out in Q4 2009
I got my HD4870X2 for a GPU, it does a fine enough of a job for now.

I am not in the USA, nor the UK, so the store names don't tell me much. The only thing I'll be getting from the US is the RAM.
 
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i7, anything else is uncivilized ....
 

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Why is it even a dilemma? Would you choose between a Core 2 Quad Q9550 and Core i7 920? If the comparison sounds silly, so is that between X4 955 and i7 920. Though if you already have a big chunk of the hardware with you, (the DFI motherboard), then you can save a lot with the X4 955.

Core i7 any day.
 
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what do you need or want, do you want power or a reasonable system that is cheaper

if you dont want the best phenom II is fine but i7 is infinatly more powerful
 
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Tell us where you live so we can find best deal for you...

Tell us also where your parents are going in the US... if they can get to a Microcenter, get this ram.. and this i7
 

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Doesnt a heavily overclocked Q9650 give the same relative performance as a i7 920??? just curious because thats what I have heard/read/been told in a lot of places. It might not be super super fast like an i7 but its not too far behind it either.

My 2$ - build & dump the Phenom II 955 rig around your parents house. stick with the Q9650 as your main rig for now as it provides a lot fair bit of muscle over the Phenom II 955.

Also if budget is a issue try to cut a few costs, key factors to keep in mind - will your parents use your pc when your not around? will your dad load into some CoD4?? & finally how often are you around your parents house.

cuz if your hardly gonna be there it doesnt make sense to spend a lot of money on something your never gonna get the full benefit/use out of.

your a gamer not a antiques collector
 

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Doesnt a heavily overclocked Q9650 give the same relative performance as a i7 920??? just curious because thats what I have heard/read/been told in a lot of places. It might not be super super fast like an i7 but its not too far behind it either.

your a gamer not a antiques collector
Don't forget the Q9650 cost roughly $100.00 more than a 920 costs now :rolleyes:
 

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In a dedicated gaming rig running 1-2 high end GPU's, i7/Q9650/PII 955 @ 4Ghz are so close that it is almost irrelevant which you choose. They all trade blows depending on title. i7 only really stretches its legs once you give it 3+ GPU's to play with.

I personally have found that my PII's run cooler than 45nm C2D quads/i7 at high clocks, so keep cooling in mind as well.
 

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In a dedicated gaming rig running 1-2 high end GPU's, i7/Q9650/PII 955 @ 4Ghz are so close that it is almost irrelevant which you choose. They all trade blows depending on title. i7 only really stretches its legs once you give it 3+ GPU's to play with.

I personally have found that my PII's run cooler than 45nm C2D quads/i7 at high clocks, so keep cooling in mind as well.
whats the temps for your PII? my Q9550 ranges from 30-50c (55'c if its a real hot day) with a decent after market cooler - temps arent really an issue.
 

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whats the temps for your PII? my Q9550 ranges from 30-50c (55'c if its a real hot day) with a decent after market cooler - temps arent really an issue.
Please don't flame me for this :eek:

I've run my scythe infinity on my Q9450 and my 720BE with 4th core unlocked, both at 3.6Ghz, and the Heatsink felt considerably warmer to the touch with the Q9450. With the 720BE it felt almost cold. Keep in mind I was running fully passive on both so with a fan it could be moot.

I know that is about as unscientific as it gets, but I trust thermal sensors so little it is possibly more accurate making a comparison by touch than what numbers the different CPU's/mobos report.

I've heard a good amount of folks that I consider to be unbiased say the PII's are cool running chips, but that doesn't necessarily imply the 45nm C2Q's are hot running.
 
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My Q9650 runs 4Ghz/1.3v with my u120x cooler with load temps around 55c.

In any case, the decision has been made: I'm gonna get a Core i7 920.

Ram recommendations anyone ? I am willing to pay up to 130$ off Newegg (I am ordering to my relatives place and my parents will pick it up from them) for a triple-channel kit.

I also need Mobo recommendations. Any other ideas aside of the DFI DK X58 ? I love DFI, so this was my first idea also, but I am open to any other suggestions.

BTW, is there a way to reuse my u120x for the new socket ? I don't know anything about LGA1366 cooling yet.
 
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phenom 2 if you like easy oc. if you want something a bit more difficult, get i7 but performance wise, i7 wins
 
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As for the DFI board, we're talking DFI LANPARTY DK X58-T3eH6, right ?

Since this is the one which is relatively cheap here as well, H8 is tons more expensive.
 
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yes it is... the UT (H8) is actually probably worse... or at most equivalent
 
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Okay, mobo is decided then.

RAM is still up in the air.
 
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Do you like to OC your RAM?
 
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Do you like to OC your RAM?
I'd prefer RAM which is rated well enough so that I don't have to push it beyond spec when I OC the CPU. Less variables to hold me back that way. The goal is 4Ghz+.

I'll up the RAM budget a bit, 150$ off the egg is fine.
 

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Be Kool and buy AMD!
 
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don't up the ram budget... 110$ will get you awsome RAM... btw, when you OC the i7, it is NOT related to RAM AT ALL... and vice versa... btw, after 1600mhz cl7, RAM performance gains after that are basically almost 0.... so choose between the 2 RAMs I linked you and you'll have NO PROBLEM.... the crucials are a great deal... and if your not scared of OCing RAM, it is the perfect choice... if you don't want to OC, those OCZ will do you good...
 
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