Don't ever Forget LG and their Phones!

[silentbogo]

G5 was my favorite. Got it from my bro after he broke the screen, fixed it in 5 minutes by removing a couple of screws and popping all the components onto the new assembly. Passed it onto my buddy's gf a couple of years later, cause she has a habit of frequently breaking screens (already did 3 more replacements, along with an earpiece and a rear camera). Sound was excellent(both, ext. speaker and DAC), camera was one of the best on the market, spare battery made it viable for very long trips, and replacement parts were super-cheap at the end of its lifetime (nowadays you can get an LCD assy. w/ frame for around $15, and apparently those are still quite in demand).
I wish there was some modern modular equivalent of this phone. And I mean not gimmicky modularity for the sake of modularity, but a slim and robust consumer-oriented phone that can be disassembled and reassembled with only a ph000 screwdriver and a prying tool.

 

[InhaleOblivion]

As a former Nexus 5, V10, V20, and V35 owner. I wish they didn't turn that line into a larger G series with the V30/35. That's when I jumped ship to OnePlus and haven't looked back since. RIP LG Mobile.
You deserved more flowers while you were alive.

 

[theFOoL]

My Friend bought two new brand of batteries from ALIEXPRESS. One is 3000mAH and the other one is 5500mAH

Plan on getting a 6000mAH one from brand Perfine who Ive had in the past. I think I had a LG G4 before my accident so who knows what happened to my phone

 

[chrcoluk]

we really need a phone company to step up to the plate and offer replaceable batteries again, and make the official battery for it affordable. its nonsense we have to throw away our phones after 2000 cycles of charges. horrible for the environment to boot.

100%

I have 2 daily driver phones right now.

The one I use for work I upgraded it last week to a moto g9 play, a budget phone, but what is really interesting about this phone is it combines a massive battery (over 5000mah) with a mid range cpu, and the result on battery life is really impressive, I not charged it for 4 days, and its still on 75%, estimated a whopping 12 days before charge.

Meanwhile my personal phone a previous flagship one plus 6, has a smaller battery which of course is now aged so not 100% efficient, and higher end cpu/gpu. I struggle to get 2 days between each charge now. I expect if I could swap the battery I would recover some battery life. As in all other metrics the oneplus 6 is fine for me, its still lightning fast and screen is fine. I feel when I replace this phone it will be for the battery. There has been days (when I use it more heavily) I cant get through the day without having to stop using it as battery gets below 15%, when charged the same morning.

I can take the back of my old work phone which is a cheap huawei, but the battery is not replaceable glued in place. My last battery swappable phone is my s5.

Its planned obsolescence sadly.

 

[Space Lynx]

100%

I have 2 daily driver phones right now.

The one I use for work I upgraded it last week to a moto g9 play, a budget phone, but what is really interesting about this phone is it combines a massive battery with a mid range cpu, and the result on battery life is really impressive, I not charged it for 4 days, and its still on 75%, estimated a whopping 12 days before charge.

Meanwhile my personal phone a previous flagship one plus 6, has a smaller battery which of course is now aged so not 100% efficient, and higher end cpu/gpu. I struggle to get 2 days between each charge now. I expect if I could swap the battery I would recover some battery life. As in all other metrics the oneplus 6 is fine for me, its still lightning fast and screen is fine. I feel when I replace this phone it will be for the battery. There has been days (when I use it more heavily) I cant get through the day without having to stop using it as battery gets below 15%, when charged the same morning.

I can take the back of my old work phone which is a cheap huawei, but the battery is not replaceable glued in place. My last battery swappable phone is my s5.

Its planned obsolescence sadly.

yep, and the truth is for what most of us use our phones for, we simply don't need faster anything. replacement batteries are the only way to a sustainable future, sadly short term greed dominates all humans, so I don't think it will ever happen.

 

[robot zombie]

Sadly, I suspect that part of the reason we don't see user-replaceable batteries as much is just water-resistance ratings. You will find that opening most devices with specific waterproofing ratings, if it can be done, totally voids the warranty because the seal can't be guaranteed if you open it and set it yourself. You could get a little something in there and wind up with ingress. The battery has to be back there, under the seal. A permanent or semi-permanent solution also offers considerably better protection from immersion. Making a seal that's meant for repeated removal and re-seating is harder. More complications, more risk of failure later on.

Personally, I think your average person could handle it... I can't act like I've never opened a 20 bar dive watch and later taken it down with no issues. But actually making something to be accessible in a straightforward way, and have it still retain the ratings people want (hell, I roomed with a dude who always took his phone into the shower religiously,) is probably more costly, if not prohibitively difficult to execute. IDK. I've never seen inside a modern sealed phone so I'm not sure how they keep em tight. But if it's like most things like that, actually placing things to keep the whole seal can be delicate.

So probably not going back, without some creativity... and space. Of course, it works in their favor, and you can bet they're happy to have you need to send your phone out or risk your warranty to swap a battery, but it's also not totally that. If better water resistance is what people want, serviceability is the compromise you get. The tougher you make a complex device, the tougher it is to disassemble.

 

[silentbogo]

Sadly, I suspect that part of the reason we don't see user-replaceable batteries as much is just water-resistance ratings.

Not really. That's just an excuse, since most phones on the market (even some flagship solutions) don't even have an IP rating. Just slapping a sim tray o-ring and few seals around the charging port is an acceptable financial loss in perspective of making a $400+ sale in a year or two.
Monoblocks like my Nokia 8, or Xperia XZ2 are the worst, because a simple procedure of replacing a battery(or any procedure, for that matter) starts by removing the glued-in screen. Even nutty people like me have fear and doubt when performing this repair on older phones(especially with expensive early OLED screens). I only did it on my phone 'cause the screen was already f#$%ed up and I had to replace it anyways. Even newer iPhones are easier in this regard, 'cause at least you still have that metal frame protecting and reinforcing the screen.

 

[robot zombie]

Not really. That's just an excuse, since most phones on the market (even some flagship solutions) don't even have an IP rating. Just slapping a sim tray o-ring and few seals around the charging port is an acceptable financial loss in perspective of making a $400+ sale in a year or two.
Monoblocks like my Nokia 8, or Xperia XZ2 are the worst, because a simple procedure of replacing a battery(or any procedure, for that matter) starts by removing the glued-in screen. Even nutty people like me have fear and doubt when performing this repair on older phones(especially with expensive early OLED screens). I only did it on my phone 'cause the screen was already f#$%ed up and I had to replace it anyways. Even newer iPhones are easier in this regard, 'cause at least you still have that metal frame protecting and reinforcing the screen.

Eh, well it was a thought lol. Glued in screens are definitely not part of it lmao. Most of the phones I've looked at boasted some IP rating.

Come to think of it, I'm wearing a G-Shock on my wrist that actually is rated for 200m... and if you want to take it apart, it's just screws and gaskets. The module inside breaks down with your fingers. Even the mineral glass and solar film up front can be popped out - it's a mechanical seal... so tough to replace but possible.

Maybe they should ask Casio for help.

EDIT: Passing thought... Casio smartphones...

 

[theFOoL]

There are some Low-end Phones from SAMSUNG/Other that have A removable Battery

 

[chrcoluk]

Samsung phones that had removable batteries had IP ratings, and my one plus 6 which has nothing removable has no IP rating, so in short that's not the reason.

 

[robot zombie]

I don't think it's that the removable battery disqualifies it... it's about what solution they choose to block water ingress. Some could do it with battery access, some can't. It's probably going to come down to things beyond that.

I really don't get why it's so hard to see how having part of the device be openable inherently reduces its water resistance. It's kinda just self-evident. Doesn't mean a phone with a removable back can't boast some waterproofing. Just makes it harder to do, and thus less likely. Is that not just... an obvious thing? Of course they don't want you to open your waterproof phone. That was what I was talking about. Nobody is out there thinking all sealed phones are sealed for waterproofing. Some of them probably do it because they saw others doing it and saw a benefit in it for themselves.... or just wanted to make it that much thinner.

So yes, I would expect that waterproofing is ONE reason. Maybe not THE reason. But it DOES inherently give something more water resistance. It amounts to less places for water to get in. Though it obviously won't matter if other areas let it in anyway, hence why some sealed phones don't carry the rating.

There can be nuance to this. Waterproofing 101 says that the more permanent seals you can reasonably apply, the better, which is where I work from to come up with one reason for this change. A seal that is meant for frequent opening is inherently a compromise on that. It's going to be weaker because it can draw dirt and is reliant on the user closing it correctly each time. Fail once, and its game-over. To build around that can add size and more complications. This goes for any device. Doesn't matter if it's a phone, a watch, or a dive computer. Or even the plumbing in your home. What leaks the most often? Not your soldered pipes... it's gonna be threaded interference and gasketed stuff... compression joints, too. By making them removable, the ability to stop water from coming out is at least somewhat weakened and the potential for failure goes up. And as it so happens, the easier they are to remove, the more often they leak! However, when built and used properly, they can still hold up very well, to the point where some can be used in walls. But they're not usually cheap....

Regardless, I think we can all agree, replaceable batteries are enormously better.

 

[theFOoL]

If there's one thing I noticed till now which I didn't use before till now is the USB on the Battery Charger which is slow yes but does actually charge the battery like on the charger. I'll need to do more testing on the usage side of things on my LG G4 though. Much care guy's

 

[theFOoL]

What my Friend bought

 

[erocker]

Got 2 LG V50's both were defective. Previous LG phone a couple years ago broke after a month. Bye LG.

 

[JinuIslife8]

LG is still being used up to these days even though it's still not the best it's decent enough for most daily basis. Gaming and hardcore resolution/graphics not so much.

 

[theFOoL]

I'm on my G4 now. Good for Basic things with light Gaming in Mind​

 

[theFOoL]

Batteries from Perfine I adore 1 3000mAH and 1 6000mAH

 

[yotano211]

I've had the LG g5 3 times.

1st time, the phone didn't turn on, returned.
2nd time, the phone turned on, GPS didn't work, returned.
3rd time, phone turned on for 2 days, GPS turned on. After 2 days, phone didn't turn on again, returned.
The 2nd and 3rd phone also had screen ghosting affects which was common with the G5 model.
I went back to my Samsung s5, replaced the battery, bought smashing s8 4 months later. I've kept with Samsung phone ever since. I know rock a s10plus 1tb model.

All g5 models where from different eBay sellers with high ratings.

 

[theFOoL]

Hmmm seems the G5 was a flop. Sorry to hear. My G4 is going strong even on Android 6.0

 

[yotano211]

Hmmm seems the G5 was a flop. Sorry to hear. My G4 is going strong even on Android 6.0

It was about 2 years after that event that I found that the g5 has ghosting effect issues on their screens. It seems it was a regular thing on the g5. It mostly affected the early models of the g5.

 

[theFOoL]

My batteries... 1-Original @3000mAH 1-2900mAH 2-TQTHL @5000mAH [though I think ones is only @3000mAH] 2-Perfine @6000mAH an @3000mAH

 

[AsRock]

we really need a phone company to step up to the plate and offer replaceable batteries again, and make the official battery for it affordable. its nonsense we have to throw away our phones after 2000 cycles of charges. horrible for the environment to boot.

I think they are to busy following Apple sadly.

Other wise stop buying the crap, goes for any of them.

 

[Space Lynx]

I think they are to busy following Apple sadly.

Other wise stop buying the crap, goes for any of them.

Apple actually has a really good deal for batteries. It only costs $49 and they will replace your old battery with a brand new one. I mean for $700+ phones that seems fair to me. Samsung and other companies don't even offer a battery replacement deal to my knowledge. Third party ones maybe with sketchy sourcing of the batteries... never know if your getting new or not.

Apple is legit at least. I don't own any Apple products, but yeah.

 

[AsRock]

Apple actually has a really good deal for batteries. It only costs $49 and they will replace your old battery with a brand new one. I mean for $700+ phones that seems fair to me. Samsung and other companies don't even offer a battery replacement deal to my knowledge. Third party ones maybe with sketchy sourcing of the batteries... never know if your getting new or not.

Apple is legit at least. I don't own any Apple products, but yeah.

Sorry but it should be self replaceable.

Apple is legit at least.

yeah maybe for the battery. i know were i can get a good phone battery for a iphone and i don't even own one.

I believe Samsung were starting to be dicks about parts for their phones to some time ago. I stay away from the dam things personally they are like mobile viruses HAHA.

 

[theFOoL]

The wight of my G4 is usable if you care for a say slight heavy phone. It's the Perfine 6000mAH just the case is slippery so I bought a TPU black case to go over it

Here's the battery so far