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Don't ignore SMART errors

qubit

qubit

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This video is mainly for our less experienced members to help them avoid falling into the trap, but it's interesting for everybody.

 
I've got a Raptor sitting on my desk, interface board removed, because I misread 3 months worth of warnings, thinking it applied to a data disk I replaced. Making assumptions is probably my worst trait....
 
I will never ignore a smart warning. I tjeck my drives regularly with Crystal disk info for warnings on my drives. Have saved me a few times by doing that from bad sectors on HDD.

I have never had a failed SSD yet since I started using SSD back in 2011. Only use Samsung and crucial throw. But the classic bad sector count on HDD I have had 3 times over the years. So to me SSD are more reliable than HDD and else i only use western digital HDD. But I have never had a complete HDD or SSD failure yet as in totally dead and Dit not even get the chance to make backup.

But my advice is, if there are any warnings in SMART, make backup as soon as possible and then stop using the SSD or HDD. At least only use it for none important files you can afford to lose.
 
Ahhzz said:
I've got a Raptor sitting on my desk, interface board removed, because I misread 3 months worth of warnings, thinking it applied to a data disk I replaced. Making assumptions is probably my worst trait....
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Oh no, that sounds gutting. You can't put a price on a decent backup regime.

I've still got my 150GB RaptorX from 2007, the one with the clear plastic top. Such an iconic 10K drive. Also, by far the noisest drive ever! You knew when it was seeking. :laugh: I replaced it in the end as much because technology had moved on and I needed more capacity as to save what little sanity I had left lol.

The best part was the expression on my friends' faces and the things they'd say when they saw it in operation. Priceless. It still works perfectly.
 
qubit said:
Oh no, that sounds gutting. You can't put a price on a decent backup regime.

I've still got my 150GB RaptorX from 2007, the one with the clear plastic top. Such an iconic 10K drive. Also, by far the noisest drive ever! You knew when it was seeking. :laugh: I replaced it in the end as much because technology had moved on and I needed more capacity as to save what little sanity I had left lol.

The best part was the expression on my friends' faces and the things they'd say when they saw it in operation. Priceless. It still works perfectly.
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I had a pair of WD velociraptor 150 gb. But after 8 years of use, I got bad sectors warnings. So it was time to replace them. But yeah, a little noisy but else pretty good HDD.
 
One of my secondary SSDs received a single reallocated sector after a power outage very long ago.


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Not sure if I should be concerned, lol.
 
S.M.A.R.T is all well and good when it knows what's going wrong but absolutely crap when it has no idea I have a HDD that is in the process of dying but oh smart tells me there's nothing wrong with it bullshit then why when I'm trying to copy stuff off of the drive does it start out ok 65~75MBps then dribbles down to 0MBps then sits there doing absolutely nothing. But there's nothing wrong with it according to S.M.A.R.T YEAH RIGHT
 
This intrigues me, as I have a Crucial M4 128GB from 2010 as my boot drive. It's at 89% health.
It's survived multiple brown-outs, 2 complete power-offs for 5 months each, and has:
1 erase fail
50 error corrections
50 raw read errors
10 reallocated NAND blocks

With 2555 power cycles and 38610 power on hours. It's a great drive, and I doubt I'll ever switch from Crucial after this. Never had any problems whatsoever with it.
Runs cool, too - I screwed a heatsink to it on the hotspot (likely the controller).

The only HDD I've ever had die was a 4GB one from a 98 SE machine that I dropped...
Twice.

After saving all the data on it (it was my cousin's and I figured he'd want his old school assignments).
 
All three of my old raptor adfd are gone now, same with my X. I had an M4 256 @ 99% health and my old revodrive kick the bucket. Intel ssds have been good to me so far. WD too but to early to tell right now. But their raptors didn’t stand the test of time for me.. 4/4 R.I.P.
 
SMART has never saved me, if the drive failed more so SSD's they fail instantly with 0 warnings. Of SSD's one OCZ and a Corsair, and a very suspect Intel SSD sata2 drive seems to be on the list next but no SMART warnings which is in that video but no error warnings or any thing.

According to to SMART the drives perfect HAHA.
 
AsRock said:
SMART has never saved me, if the drive failed more so SSD's they fail instantly with 0 warnings. Of SSD's one OCZ and a Corsair, and a very suspect Intel SSD sata2 drive seems to be on the list next but no SMART warnings which is in that video but no error warnings or any thing.

According to to SMART the drives perfect HAHA.
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Yeah, I've had that a couple of times.

Drives were recognized in the bios, heads hunting in futility and Hard Disc Sentinel showing a load of out of whack SMART readings. Thankfully, there was nothing important on them and I keep proper backups anyway. Thing is, even with backups, you can still lose the most recent changes, which can sometimes be pretty important, eg a Word file that you were in the middle of writing etc.
 
qubit said:
Yeah, I've had that a couple of times.

Drives were recognized in the bios, heads hunting in futility and Hard Disc Sentinel showing a load of out of whack SMART readings. Thankfully, there was nothing important on them and I keep proper backups anyway. Thing is, even with backups, you can still lose the most recent changes, which can sometimes be pretty important, eg a Word file that you were in the middle of writing etc.
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Aye

but there are tools like synctoy
 
AsRock said:
Aye

but there are tools like synctoy
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Looking it up, it seems to be similar to Karen's Replicator which I've been using for over a decade now and has proven to be very reliable. I'll check it out though, see if I like it better.

I used to have a once a day schedule for a mirror backup, but nowadays I find it more convenient to just make make them on an ad-hoc basis.

en.wikipedia.org

SyncToy - Wikipedia

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