eVGA GTX1080 FTW > RTX2080 worth it?

[cucker tarlson]

He probably believed every word written in that "just buy it" article on Tom's Hardware

to answer the question:
If you believe that mere 30% better performance is worth the upgrade go for it

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another one that can point out everything to that THG article but fails at computing percentages. this is 37% faster at 1440p., 97% is 1.37x of 71%
at 3440x1440 it'd be more than 40% cause it's 45% faster at 4K

 

[yotano211]

Reddit? Not exactly a safe way to buy.. I wouldn't.

Exactly. The upgrade from a 1080 to 2080 was something I fussed about. Wasn't going to and in the beginning was a fan of RTX. Then I saw what it could do and my mind was changed. Skipped over the GTX600's and GTX900's because the value wasn't there. The GTX1000's showed excellent value. Might be in the minority in this opinion, but I feel the value is there for the RTX's as well.

I have sold many many things, and bought some items off there and never an issue. I pay with PayPal.

 

[bajs11]

another one that can point out everything to that THG article but fails at computing percentages. this is 37% faster at 1440p., 97% is 1.37x of 71%
at 3440x1440 it'd be more than 40% cause it's 45% faster at 4K

that's only because they used games like Hellblade and Ghost recon wildlands
in both the rtx 2080 is between 40-50% faster but still far from 60fps

In most other games the difference was around 30%
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_RTX_2080_Founders_Edition/



I am not denying that the rtx 2080 is quite a bit faster than the 1080 but its only slightly faster than the 1080ti while costing way more than the gtx 1080 a card that was release two and a half years ago. That's not what I call a worthy upgrade

I hav enever seen a case where I could make an argument for a sigle generation upgrade.

the difference between the 980 and 1080 was huge at higher resolutions and totally worth the upgrade
the msrp of the 1080 is only 50 bucks higher while offering 2x the amount of memory 4gb vs 8gb
How much more VRAM do you get with the 2080? -.-

 

[lexluthermiester]

To be clear, I dont care at all about rtx. I just want a card that will give me higher fps than my gtx1080 at 3440x1440, so I hope the switch from gtx1080 to rtx2080 will be decent.

Then the 2080 will give you that.

 

[bug]

No? Why wouldn't I upgrade from a 1060 to a 2070+ if the budget allows? Its all about budget as they are all an upgrade. The difference is the 'worth' to the user and if they can afford it, right? So, the case for it will vary by person. You may not feel its worth it to upgrade one gen, others, do and can, it is just situation dependent.

I'm pretty sure he meant to say it's not worth to upgrade from one generation to the next _within the same tier_. In some instances, upgrading from one tier to another may make sense even within the same generation (think 960 to 970/980).

 

[EarthDog]

I'm pretty sure he meant to say it's not worth to upgrade from one generation to the next _within the same tier_. In some instances, upgrading from one tier to another may make sense even within the same generation (think 960 to 970/980).

Maybe! I was just going off the words written.

Still a 10x0 to a 20x0 is a decent upgrade. Perhaps not as much as the previous gap, but... it's there.

 

[bug]

Maybe! I was just going off the words written.

Still a 10x0 to a 20x0 is a decent upgrade. Perhaps not as much as the previous gap, but... it's there.

They're all decent upgrades (and not only video cards, the same goes for pretty much any consumer products). It's all a question of $$$ vs extra functionality. You will always find a bargain on the new product or an opportunity to sell what you currently have for good $$$ to mitigate most of the cost of the upgrade. But in general, upgrading every generation is not worth it.
Of course, seldom upgrading isn't recommended either, because you end up basically paying the whole cost for you new shiny

 

[Komshija]

Upgrading a working GTX 1080 to RTX 2080 is complete nonsense. Little performance boost for a lot more money.

I would rather add another GTX 1080 and upgrade PSU if you don't have a quality 850W or higher PSU. Two GTX 1080's will give a lot more performance than any single RTX 2080 or 2080 Ti.

 

[EarthDog]

Upgrading a working GTX 1080 to RTX 2080 is complete nonsense. Little performance boost for a lot more money.

I would rather add another GTX 1080 and upgrade PSU if you don't have a quality 850W or higher PSU. Two GTX 1080's will give a lot more performance than any single RTX 2080 or 2080 Ti.

To be clear, you'd rather pay around $680 to run SLI ( new 1080 + PSU) or ~$500 (used 1080 + new PSU) than to pay ~$400 for upgrading to a 2080 and selling the 1080?

Many would shy away from such a thing considering SLI/CFx is seemingly on the way out... it doesn't scale 2x (ever?) so there isn't 2x the performance for the price which also degrades the 'value' proposition being shared. Though in games that have good scaling it would be faster. But you are paying 50% more to be faster than the other setup. If someone NEEDS that FPS, that may be a good way to go, but just to spite a single card upgrade, doesn't sound like something I would do.

 

[trog100]

To be clear, you'd rather pay around $680 to run SLI ( new 1080 + PSU) or ~$480 (used 1080 + new PSU) than to pay ~$300 for upgrading to a 2080 and selling the 1080?

Many would shy away from such a thing considering SLI/CFx is seemingly on the way out... it doesn't scale 2x (ever?) so there isn't 2x the performance for the price which also degrades the 'value' proposition being shared. Though in games that have good scaling it would be faster. But you are paying 50% more to be faster than the other setup. If someone NEEDS that FPS, that may be a good way to go, but just to spite a single card upgrade, doesn't sound like something I would do.

you get some pretty impressive 3Dmark scores though..

trog

 

[xkm1948]

Since Pascal inventories are drying up, i say go for 2080. Better performance than 1080Ti with more features.

There has been a strange but steady wave of RTX haters lately. I understand that the launch price wasn’t pleasant, but the selective blindness to ignore the improvement on RT engines as well as Tensor cores in consumer GPU is just pure ignorance. At least Nvidia is activity improving GPU technology, unlike Intel who basically sit on its ass for a decade.

Get the 2080. It is a better card than 1080Ti

 

[moproblems99]

To be clear, I dont care at all about rtx. I just want a card that will give me higher fps than my gtx1080 at 3440x1440, so I hope the switch from gtx1080 to rtx2080 will be decent.

Look at any review with a 1080ti at that res and it is about what you will get.

 

[rtwjunkie]

EVGA is better then MSI in my book. But they're not too widespread in Europe, so Europeans are more familiar with MSI.

Historically, like the last couple generations (can’t speak about current Turing), EVGA has used reference PCB’s on cards, skimped on VRM a number of times, and run hotter and louder than MSI cards. MSI has consistently made their own more beefy PCB, built in more than adequate phasing and VRM cooling, and has had quiet coolers which cool very well.

There are specific model exceptions on both, of course, but overall I feel MSI has the edge on quality.

That being said, cost can be a big factor for many and I can’t fault them for paying less money.

 

[cucker tarlson]

that's only because they used games like Hellblade and Ghost recon wildlands
in both the rtx 2080 is between 40-50% faster but still far from 60fps
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In most other games the difference was around 30%
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/NVIDIA/GeForce_RTX_2080_Founders_Edition/



I am not denying that the rtx 2080 is quite a bit faster than the 1080 but its only slightly faster than the 1080ti while costing way more than the gtx 1080 a card that was release two and a half years ago. That's not what I call a worthy upgrade



the difference between the 980 and 1080 was huge at higher resolutions and totally worth the upgrade
the msrp of the 1080 is only 50 bucks higher while offering 2x the amount of memory 4gb vs 8gb
How much more VRAM do you get with the 2080? -.-

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45% was an average of +20 games. How can you get "30% in most other games" and "40-50% only in hellblade and wildlands" if the average of 22 games is 45% ?

 

[bajs11]

the op was asking about 1440p and the numbers for 1440p is just above 30%
read the whole review and do your own math

also this is what I said and the only objection I have towards the 2080 and 2080Ti
if you think the rtx is so worth it how come you havent gotten rid of your 1080ti?

I am not denying that the rtx 2080 is quite a bit faster than the 1080 but its only slightly faster than the 1080ti while costing way more than the gtx 1080 a card that was release two and a half years ago. That's not what I call a worthy upgrade



the difference between the 980 and 1080 was huge at higher resolutions and totally worth the upgrade
the msrp of the 1080 is only 50 bucks higher while offering 2x the amount of memory 4gb vs 8gb
How much more VRAM do you get with the 2080?

 

[cucker tarlson]

the op was asking about 1440p and the numbers for 1440p is just above 30%
read the whole review and do your own math

also this is what I said and the only objection I have towards the 2080 and 2080Ti
if you think the rtx is so worth it how come you havent gotten rid of your 1080ti?

he was asking for 3440x1440 so 4K is a fair comparison.
lol,do my math,can you do yours ?
In the review you linked,out of 22 games, 14 show 2080 leading by 45% or more, it can be +50% a lot of cases.
The rest is 35-40%, only one (Civ VI) shows 31%. That's the source of your "30% in most cases".

I'm not an advocate for 2080,but at least don't get your numbers horribly wrong.You think everyone bends numbers to their liking like you are doing ? You must be joking.

 

[bajs11]

how is "just over 30%" that different from 37%?
unless you agree that 1080ti which is around 30% faster than the 1080 actually much slower than the rtx 2080

 

[cucker tarlson]

how is "just over 30%" that different from 37%?
unless you agree that 1080ti which is around 30% faster than the 1080 actually much slower than the rtx 2080

37% was the avg. at 2560x1440, not 3440x1440.
lol,what's in it for you that you keep insisting on posting this fake 30% number.

 

[bajs11]

37% was the avg. at 2560x1440, not 3440x1440.
lol,what's in it for you that you keep insisting on posting this ?

so according to you
3440x1440 = 3840x2160
4.953mpixel=8.294mpixel

just admit you are just a troll nitpicking others

 

[cucker tarlson]

so according to you
3440x1440 = 3840x2160
4.953mpixel=8.294mpixel

just admit you are just a troll nitpicking others

3440x1440 is 35% more pixels than 2560x1440,, that's reason one. Reason two is at 2560x1440 you can still see instances of cpu bottleneck on a card that's faster than 1080ti. That's why taking the 4K is the real test for differences between GPUs. When you ask how much difference between cards there is, you take the most intensive gpu scenario not cherry pick results.

 

[bajs11]

even though 3440x1440 got 67% less pixels than 3840x2160...

 

[cucker tarlson]

even though 3440x1440 got 67% less pixels than 3840x2160...

3440x1440 has 40% less pixels than 4K.You still don't get percentages. "67% less" means 3440x1440 is 1/3rd of 4K.
And yes,you measure the diiference in the most gpu-bound scenario.

 

[lapino]

Just installed the MSI RTX2080 Gaming X Trio in my pc. Seems like one decent built card, very large and heavy. Framerates in BF:V seem a bit higher, it's not a generational leap, but I do see a higher average fps count. Worth the 400 euro it cost me? Well, depends. If I'd have been happy with 60fps, there was no need. Now I'm averaging around 100-120 at 3440x1400 which is pretty good. The card is reasonably silent, not much more silent/loud than my GTX1080 FTW.

Kinda mixed feelings about pc gaming overall the last few months, but maybe I'm getting old. Last weeks I spent around € 1.000 to upgrade my pc (cpu > 9700K, gpu > RTX2080) and while it does give me very nice framerates and gfx for my pc games, I have to admit that when I consider the whole cost of my pc, I can buy a nice laptop + 4K 65' LED tv + PS4Pro for the same money. Not that I need to (got all those anyway ) but if my daughter asks if she can play some games, I think I'll just get her a PS4 instead of a pc.

Pc gaming has become very expensive imo (at least if you want more than what a decent console gives)

 

[bug]

Historically, like the last couple generations (can’t speak about current Turing), EVGA has used reference PCB’s on cards, skimped on VRM a number of times, and run hotter and louder than MSI cards. MSI has consistently made their own more beefy PCB, built in more than adequate phasing and VRM cooling, and has had quiet coolers which cool very well.

There are specific model exceptions on both, of course, but overall I feel MSI has the edge on quality.

That being said, cost can be a big factor for many and I can’t fault them for paying less money.

Idk whether that's accurate. EVGA always had their SC line which was refence design+custom cooling and FTW line which was custom everything. Turing is a bit different, but that how it was till now.

 

[rtwjunkie]

SC line which was refence design+custom cooling and FTW line

Don’t be snookered. Those are the ones that have fallen down in comparison to their counterparts on many models.

I’ve owned several of the same model of each at the same time and have even seen for myself about the louder fans and less cooling. It doesn’t mean they were bad, just not as capable in those areas.