Forza Motorsport discussion thread

[Deleted member 185088]

Hi people,

Forza Motorsport is finally here.

First impressions:

- Drives exactly like Forza.
- graphics looks ok so far, I am yet to try it on PC and compare it to GT7.
- Plays wonderfully on controller as usual for Forza.
- Awful commentary (for some reason they choose some American), French isn't much better either, I might try other languages to see.

What's your impressions so far

 

[i486]

Runs very badly, I think this is the worst performing game I've played so far for sure. Visuals are also unimpressive on "High", FH5 looks much better and I think in some scenes even FM7 looked better than this game, although I admit turning off RT probably doesn't help matters as it's a core part its visual presentation. Overall the game feels very unfinished which is what I've come to expect these days.

On a more positive note, the multiplayer is a genuinely great experience, which I did not expect from a Forza title. The handling model feels great also which is another one of my issues with the older games. It's a shame almost everything else was copied from FM7, if not dropped entirely...

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

runs amazing on my 6700 surprisingly
im loving it
Some minor issues but nothing game breaking yet
First game where i can comfortably use a wheel and controller

 

[Double-Click]

Decided to go console first since I have a nice big screen and just expect less issues there at launch.
So far I've completed the Builder's Cup (Mustang GT) and tweaked a few things.

The likes:
Gameplay. It is tight, seriously tight.
They definitely overhauled the physics, I could feel it just using a controller.

The dislikes:
I am not a fan of the new progression system so far (too RPG-ish), maybe that will change in time, I'll try and let it marinate.
Single player content also seems anemic just as it was with Forza 7...was really hoping to see more there.

The IDK:
Visually (XBX/performance mode) - not too impressive unfortunately.

It doesn't feel polished / consistent...something is off.
There are moments where it looks just ok- and others where it looks really good (like Flight Simulator good).

I've seen comments like this on PC too, so hopefully something addressed w/ update(s).

 

[Todestrieb]

Running on steam version. I almost got into trouble for linking the wrong MS account to steam account. (I used my brother's MS account to access FM7)
I AltF4'd to force quit->restart, only to get stuck in title screen.
Eventually fixed that with some local Admin account shenanigans. (can't find the link to solution right now)

That took too much time, and I only got past the Builder's cup intro.
Some minor things:
- My Dualshock4 controller can't auto config. Manual config will make L2&R2 digital. Have to use DS4Windows. (On FH5 it just works (TM).)
- The benchmark mode is not very accurate. I tried 1080p everything high (include raytracing, exclude mirror (medium), motion blur) and benchmark result is somewhere around 60fps. On actual race (Intro race 1 and 2) I got a rather inconsistant ~35fps, so I have to disable RT (which gives ~100fps).
- The RPG stuff is gonna be super divisive. I don't outright hate it, but I would like them to have a bit more parts on the get go.
- Loads of loads of understeer.
- The starter Civic got loads of loads of *unpredictable* understeer very often. Maybe that's because I'm an experienced potato though.
- I appreciate the game's mission of pushing player skills.

 

[Splinterdog]

I'm enjoying the racing and I like the segment timings as it makes you more competitive. I only use a keyboard to race and so far it's the same as FM 7 in that respect, although the handling has improved. I think the cars stick more to the track.
The practice laps should be easier to cancel, but that's not a big gripe.
I like the voiceovers which are a mix of British and American in soft, measure tones and not irritating in the least.
The graphics are demanding on my system Ryzen 5600X and RX 5700 XT with 32GB RAM and the FPS fluctuates a lot depending on the location and day or night.
The video cutscenes are all choppy and I can't see any spectators, unless they've all gone to lunch.
Question:
How to use FSR2?
I have a 1440p monitor over DP, so what would be the best resolution to set combined with FSR2?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Liking it so far just heavily cpu limited with a 4090, probably the same with a 4080.

How to use FSR2?
I have a 1440p monitor over DP, so what would be the best resolution to set combined with FSR2?

As far as I can tell upscaling is broken right now was watching videos not sure if it has been fixed.

At 1440p you will definitely be wanting to use quality mode with FSR2 otherwise the artifacts get pretty easy to notice.

 

[i486]

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but it'd be really cool to get benchmarks of this game by TPU given how demanding it is and how comprehensive the reviews are here

Then again, maybe a little more time is needed given how the game seems to be highly unstable and changing settings on its own (such as DLSS).

 

[freeagent]

It seems a little broken

 

[oxrufiioxo]

It seems a little broken

At least on Geforce it's just a bit wonky sounds almost unplayable on AMD cards ATM.

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but it'd be really cool to get benchmarks of this game by TPU given how demanding it is and how comprehensive the reviews are here

Then again, maybe a little more time is needed given how the game seems to be highly unstable and changing settings on its own (such as DLSS).

Right now it's mostly cpu limited due to the game being highly single thread limited.

 

[Splinterdog]

I'll play around with the settings again, cheers!

 

[P4-630]

I can't see any spectators, unless they've all gone to lunch.

lol...



It's probably some setting to see those spectators...

 

[Lionheart]

Playing it right now, both comparing it on the Xbox Series X and my gaming PC and honestly, not a huge difference. I'm on Performance RT mode on the Series X and maxed out 4k using DLSS Quality hovering around the 58fps - 62fps mark capped at 60fps. On PC maybe it's a tiny bit sharper but the in built TAA ruins this game for me, so smudgy looking, some times the lighting is off and makes the cars look like plastic with no reflections and other times it looks good, just so wonky.

Game play wise I'm enjoying it somewhat, getting use to the car leveling and driver leveling system, might take a while but yeah, this game needs some work.

Make MSAA normalized again!

Should be called Forza Motorsport - Understeer edition lol

 

[freeagent]

At least on Geforce it's just a bit wonky sounds almost unplayable on AMD cards ATM.

Yup, I will check it out some more when I get home. It didn’t seem too bad at all and it looked great at ultra until I did something to cut the frames in half.

 

[BMfan80]

Just tried it on game pass, thankfully I didn't waste money on it.
Could of used the 120GB to download much better things.

The understeer in every car I tried was pathetic.
In the beginning scene where you drive that racing Cadillac, the Ferrari could corner quicker.
The game also didn't want to work with my Dualsense controller, I had to use DS4Windows to make it seem like a x360 controller.
Not sure if the software was messing up something.
I wont waste money on a X controller when the Sony one works great with Horizon 4 and 5.

Can someone also explain something to me?
I was watching a guy race around in an MX5, which even in his vid it was understeering like mad.
Every so often a notification pops up and says that his car has levelled up.
Do the cars in motorsport start off at a worst level than stock and while you are racing it levels up to stock performance?

I drove the stock MX5 in motorsport, then went to horizon and the stock MX5 turned a lot better in horizon.

 

[INSTG8R]

My gripe as usual with Turn 10 is they absolutely recognize my wheel but then break all down to button numbers. GriD 2019 can handle A B X Y etc etc..to make matters worse I‘m presented with all keyboard commands. The LEDs on my wheel are borked in game and after I exit they leave them on so I have to unplug it every time. The FFB is very numb and just feels like it’s just ”centering spring” okay almost that bad. I mean steering cars is absolutely manageable but things like rumble strips, surface changes are barely noticeable. It just feels absolutely “numb” when in any other game my. G923 registers every little thing with such precision I dunno why they can’t get clutc/manual right either(Horizon are just as bad) It has absolutely no consistency when I know that I am. Braking and downshifting into a corner is totally unpredictable it might do what Im doing or literally delay multiple gears, or just instantly drop and over rev. You just never know Frankly upshifts can be equally sporadic.
Bottom line this game screams for a wheel but just makes it an absolute mess of it.
I’ve been sim racing for years this game I’m “fighting“ against the wheel rather than it giving me a precision edge…

 

[SchumannFrequency]

There seems to be a strong consensus among those making the comparison.

its mad that gran turismo is now the game with the more dynamic cockpit camera, the hand movements and how the car balances its weight look kilometers better, i really expected more from a current Forza game, the interior views are really underwhelming.

The z looks so much better in gt7, still looking forward to motorsport considering how good the career mode looks to be, but visually its even behind gt7, and i remember so many times people belive that forza motorsport would destroy gt7 in graphics witch its just dosen’t, cars always look more realistic in gran turismo, forza has some advantage on track detail and enviroments,

I think GT7 got the best cockpit view. As a dude who played forza for a long time, GT7 got a better cockpit view based off the motion of they way you steer that somewhat the whole screen moves with it. The sound detonating of the inside of a car is so much similar to an actual car the way he speeds up and you slowly hear the turbos as the car gets quieter.

I know this version of Forza Motorsport is pre-release but I was expecting it to look at least a little better than Forza Horizon 5. It looks like Forza Motorsport 6...

Goddam that GT7 Footage is IMPRESSIVE.

THE MICRO CAMERA MOVEMENT IN THE COCKPIT ON GT7 IS GOD TIER.

I fully expected FM to look as good if not a little better than GT7. Its not even remotely close.

I'm bended to think Forza MS share the same model with FH, and to be fair the cockpit detail is much lower than expected, GT7 seems to be the benchmark yet. I was seriusly hoping for more of this new Forza, and even a 360º virtual steering wheel they aren't able to deliver, shame.
Love the wobble in GT7 cockpit, those subtle soft movements makes it very immersive!

Sad to see that FM8 doesn't look nearly as good as GT7 and FH5 despite being a next gen console game. Hopefully the gameplay can make up for that.

Gran turismo 7 colour is nice

Does not looks like that much of upgrade tbh.. even interior sound still better in fh5 than fm in my opinion.. I know its not final quality yet but 3 months are quite hard to pull for much better graphic than in this gameplay.

I dont know what it is... but Gran Turismo 7... i just wanna kiss it!!! It looks amazing!

Gran Turismo 7 is more realistic the materials of the interior and the why the car handles also the vibration of the suspension system way better than forza always "oversteering"

Why does fh5 look better than forza motorsport...
damn from all the talks they were saying fans , devs ,…. I was ready to be mind blown but I cant see anything better on forza rather than environment and thats it

The material response in FM has nearly caught up to GT, but they're using the wrong color paint! The car body in the Forza games is just a bit different than what you see in GT7 as well. I'm going out on a limb and saying the people that actually race cars in real life probably got the right model into their game... that game being GT7. The singular still image shows that the windows are just strange looking in FM 2023. In isolation FM looks ok (not great not even from this generation) but it looks... ok. But GT7 just looks like it's from another generation.

I can’t believe fh5 look’s better than FM here
Honesty GT7 looks better. The interior view is better and more interactive. Even the outside racing looks better in GT7. Was not expecting this.

The car sounds more accurate on GT7, the camera on cockpit view is not as stiff as it is on FM which makes it more immersive, and then there's the graphics which just beats it out of the water.

Forza Motorsport looks last gen compared to the other two, especially GT7

damn FM looks like FM4

Yeah I'll stick to GT7

GT7 look's great

GT7 > FM in terms of quality of the car.
Fm7 has weak engine sound

Forza motorsport has different unrealistic shade of blue.
Where forza fans Boys

In forza you drive the car in gt7 you drive the track

It clearly says it’s a development build not final quality meaning that it will get polish for the release they have 3 whole months to fix everything

GT7 wins.

And the winner is: GT7

GT7

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GT 7 better

GT7 just blow Forza out of earth

You purposely selected the worst looking GT7 track but GT7 still wins by a mille.. Lol XD

 

[thesmokingman]

There seems to be a strong consensus among those making the comparison.

its mad that gran turismo is now the game with the more dynamic cockpit camera, the hand movements and how the car balances its weight look kilometers better, i really expected more from a current Forza game, the interior views are really underwhelming.

The z looks so much better in gt7, still looking forward to motorsport considering how good the career mode looks to be, but visually its even behind gt7, and i remember so many times people belive that forza motorsport would destroy gt7 in graphics witch its just dosen’t, cars always look more realistic in gran turismo, forza has some advantage on track detail and enviroments,

I think GT7 got the best cockpit view. As a dude who played forza for a long time, GT7 got a better cockpit view based off the motion of they way you steer that somewhat the whole screen moves with it. The sound detonating of the inside of a car is so much similar to an actual car the way he speeds up and you slowly hear the turbos as the car gets quieter.

I know this version of Forza Motorsport is pre-release but I was expecting it to look at least a little better than Forza Horizon 5. It looks like Forza Motorsport 6...

Goddam that GT7 Footage is IMPRESSIVE.

THE MICRO CAMERA MOVEMENT IN THE COCKPIT ON GT7 IS GOD TIER.

I fully expected FM to look as good if not a little better than GT7. Its not even remotely close.

I'm bended to think Forza MS share the same model with FH, and to be fair the cockpit detail is much lower than expected, GT7 seems to be the benchmark yet. I was seriusly hoping for more of this new Forza, and even a 360º virtual steering wheel they aren't able to deliver, shame.
Love the wobble in GT7 cockpit, those subtle soft movements makes it very immersive!

Sad to see that FM8 doesn't look nearly as good as GT7 and FH5 despite being a next gen console game. Hopefully the gameplay can make up for that.

Gran turismo 7 colour is nice

Does not looks like that much of upgrade tbh.. even interior sound still better in fh5 than fm in my opinion.. I know its not final quality yet but 3 months are quite hard to pull for much better graphic than in this gameplay.

I dont know what it is... but Gran Turismo 7... i just wanna kiss it!!! It looks amazing!

Gran Turismo 7 is more realistic the materials of the interior and the why the car handles also the vibration of the suspension system way better than forza always "oversteering"

Why does fh5 look better than forza motorsport...
damn from all the talks they were saying fans , devs ,…. I was ready to be mind blown but I cant see anything better on forza rather than environment and thats it

The material response in FM has nearly caught up to GT, but they're using the wrong color paint! The car body in the Forza games is just a bit different than what you see in GT7 as well. I'm going out on a limb and saying the people that actually race cars in real life probably got the right model into their game... that game being GT7. The singular still image shows that the windows are just strange looking in FM 2023. In isolation FM looks ok (not great not even from this generation) but it looks... ok. But GT7 just looks like it's from another generation.

I can’t believe fh5 look’s better than FM here
Honesty GT7 looks better. The interior view is better and more interactive. Even the outside racing looks better in GT7. Was not expecting this.

The car sounds more accurate on GT7, the camera on cockpit view is not as stiff as it is on FM which makes it more immersive, and then there's the graphics which just beats it out of the water.

Forza Motorsport looks last gen compared to the other two, especially GT7

damn FM looks like FM4

Yeah I'll stick to GT7

GT7 look's great

GT7 > FM in terms of quality of the car.
Fm7 has weak engine sound

Forza motorsport has different unrealistic shade of blue.
Where forza fans Boys

In forza you drive the car in gt7 you drive the track

It clearly says it’s a development build not final quality meaning that it will get polish for the release they have 3 whole months to fix everything

GT7 wins.

And the winner is: GT7

GT7

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GT 7 better

GT7 just blow Forza out of earth

You purposely selected the worst looking GT7 track but GT7 still wins by a mille.. Lol XD

Polyphony graphics work is generally considered the best so your conclusion is no surprise. Though I would have expected FM8 would improve things shrugs. Modders been stealing models from GT games going way back. They just do 3D modeling better than the rest.

 

[The King]

I saw this review earlier today. Seems to have some issues.

 

[Blaeza]

I'm a broken man. No, I've not played Forza yet and I am still going to buy it, but everything you people are saying is like a punch in the face. Not running well on AMD, chronic understeer and not even being a good looking game? Where has Forza gone?

Seems like the edition released is still beta and we'll get the full game after a couple of years of add-ons and bug fixes, but TURN 10, WHAT YOU PLAYING AT???

 

[thesmokingman]

They just ignored what happened with CP2077 and others like that that shipped way before ripeness.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I'm a broken man. No, I've not played Forza yet and I am still going to buy it, but everything you people are saying is like a punch in the face. Not running well on AMD, chronic understeer and not even being a good looking game? Where has Forza gone?

Seems like the edition released is still beta and we'll get the full game after a couple of years of add-ons and bug fixes, but TURN 10, WHAT YOU PLAYING AT???

It looks fine I have this Forza Horizon 5 and GT7 they all have different pros and cons in the visual department. I would still say being open world FH5 looks the best but there is only so much you can do on a track based games. GT7 people seem to love the cars but in actual gameplay they look fake AF Replays are fine though.

As far as how the cars handle it's less arcady than FH5 and more Arcady than GT7 but I haven't driven or leveled up the cards enough to make a good comparison. Def not a sim though which I personally don't like anyways.

They just ignored what happened with CP2077 and others like that that shipped way before ripeness.

For sure it should have shipped with RTGI on PC and a lot of bugs considering their last couple releases have been pretty solid seems like M$ wanted the game out for the holiday season.

Also the visuals while still decent have been downgraded quite a bit from what they showed in 2022.

 

[Double-Click]

Nothing is new with the buggy-ness of the launch.

Forza 7 (Take 10)was a hot mess on PC when it launched, constant crashes and it wasn't even mostly fixed until many months later.
Forza Horizon 5 (Playground) was great at launch but then out of nowhere turned to crap back in May - it won't launch and/or has terrible load times.

PC always gets the short end w/ these games, it is the afterthought platform in their view.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Nothing is new with the buggy-ness of the launch.

Forza 7 (Take 10)was a hot mess on PC when it launched, constant crashes and it wasn't even mostly fixed until many months later.
Forza Horizon 5 (Playground) was great at launch but then out of nowhere turned to crap back in May - it won't launch and/or has terrible load times.

PC always gets the short end w/ these games, it is the afterthought platform in their view.

Never had issues with either game although I've heard this from others as well.

I had a Titan Xp/6700K System back in 2017 when it launched not sure if that matteres but maybe it was the huge amount of Vram that kept me from having crashes in FM7

 

[Deleted member 185088]

Played a bit more, I quite like the RPG system, surprising because I always avoided this, I prefer to get a proper racing car instead.

It seems a little broken

Indeed, crashed 3 times to the main menu on Xbox.