Help with high cpu temps. Ryzen 2600x

[Vya Domus]

Regardless we are on the wrong path anyway I think.

Your CPU wasn't reaching almost 100c because of the voltages alone, that's for sure.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Nah, I just got 82 only playing apex. Imagine if I stream



I was using -0.1000 voltage offset before. Some ppl here say otherwise, cant decide but from what I see in my low knowledge. Until now what I had is what works better and has lower voltages.

Now im using -01000 in offset voltage since override doesnt work at all and reduced nb voltage to 1.10 from 115. Still high temps tho

You don't need an offset of your not overclocking the cpu, set it to around 1.2-1.25 wherever you are stable as your max volts have been above 1.4 in both screenshots. run ryzen master to see what your temps are on that.1.41v will make it toasty so yes reducing vcore will help 3rd time of asking are you getting the same temp readouts in ryzen master

 

[eidairaman1]

As about the water cooling sugestions, thanks but I dont think that for now I need that much cooling for a 2600x and a vega 56 and my case isn´t very big to that and i´m still confident the wraith cooler is enough for what I do, if not I will consider buying a cooler in the future specially if I Know I can transfer it for a future build. Water cooling look dope tho, one day will probably build one

Btw About thermal paste, my girlfriend step father gave me 2 thermal pastes tubes he used like 4 or 5 years ago, do they have any expire date? I googled it and got different opinions. One is Arctic Silver 5, other is supreme thermal compound from cooler master. If it hasn´t enough quantity to the "pea" can I mix them?

Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut (1g) 5.50€

Arctic MX-4 - 4gr 5.31€

Arctic Silver 5 3.5g 7.16€

1g will last for how many applications? Kryonaut looks super expensive.

Get the mx 4.

AS5 for 3G is pricey like the TGK of 1G.

 

[phanbuey]

Regardless we are on the wrong path anyway I think.

Your CPU wasn't reaching almost 100c because of the voltages alone, that's for sure.

+1 as XFR won't do that as your CPU will just throttle down to base clocks and volts will drop along with it... what is sounds like is the pump on the cooler dying or a bad thermal sensor.

Thermal paste doesn't make that much of a difference either, unless you literally forgot to put some on. Something is up with that cooler or there isn't enough airflow in the system.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

+1 as XFR won't do that as your CPU will just throttle down to base clocks and volts will drop along with it... what is sounds like is the pump on the cooler dying or a bad thermal sensor.

Thermal paste doesn't make that much of a difference either, unless you literally forgot to put some on. Something is up with that cooler or there isn't enough airflow in the system.

You haven't overclocked a ryzen with 1.45v then

 

[phanbuey]

You haven't overclocked a ryzen with 1.45v then

A ryzen won't clock itself and keep it there at 1.45v on full load - my 1800x (which is a MUCH hotter chip than a 2600x) would jump to that votlage at stock with xfr and easily hit 80C but then it wouldn't go much past there and voltage would drop. Sure if you manually set your voltage to 1.45v then you will hit 100C - but at stock settings it won't/shouldn't do that.

I have a feeling this is more to do with the cooler not being able to dissipate enough heat over time or the system heating up during gaming.

 

[ENEMY]

Regardless we are on the wrong path anyway I think.

Your CPU wasn't reaching almost 100c because of the voltages alone, that's for sure.

For sure, but while i´m here I like to learn and know what are the best settings anyway.

You don't need an offset of your not overclocking the cpu, set it to around 1.2-1.25 wherever you are stable as your max volts have been above 1.4 in both screenshots. run ryzen master to see what your temps are on that.1.41v will make it toasty so yes reducing vcore will help 3rd time of asking are you getting the same temp readouts in ryzen master

All the fix voltages I tried in override mode crashed my windows. I was able to reduce nb voltage from 1.15 to 1.10. Yes ryzen master shows the same temps.

A ryzen won't clock itself and keep it there at 1.45v on full load - my 1800x would jump to that votlage at stock with xfr and easily hit 80C but then it wouldn't go much past there and voltage would drop. Sure if you manually set your voltage to 1.45v then you will hit 100C - but at stock settings it won't/shouldn't do that.

Played one hour, got cº 82,5 max at 1.425 max voltage.

 

[phanbuey]

Played one hour, got cº 82,5 max at 1.425 max voltage.

That looks right. Can you post a pic of your current fan setup.

You can try reversing one of your fans to feed outside air to the cooler, that can drop it another few C after hour of gaming.

 

[Vya Domus]

Looking at power readings from the posted screenshots they never exceed the expected ~90W for a stock 2600X. This means that whatever the voltages/clocks are they do not cause an abnormal amount of heat.

So, the power that's dissipated is normal, the 98c temperature is not. There are only 2 possibilities as far as I am concerned : the temperature readings are wrong or the cooling is not doing it's job.

 

[phanbuey]

Im guessing after a long gaming sesh the ambient temp in the case is rising considerably with that Vega 56 - and it's probably exhausting it's hot air right into the wraith cooler.

 

[RealNeil]

First, post a photo of the inside of your case so we can have a look at how things are set up.

Next, use the onboard jumper to reset your Mainboard's BIOS to factory stock settings. You're not overclocking anyway, so let the mainboard set itself up properly @stock.

If your temps are still high, then the CPU cooler is having problems of some sort. repaste/reseat cooler at this point.

If your temps are still high, bite the bullet and buy a better than stock cooler for your CPU.

 

[ENEMY]

That looks right. Can you post a pic of your current fan setup.
You can try reversing one of your fans to feed outside air to the cooler, that can drop it another few C after hour of gaming.

Posted a pic, its a Meshify C. I already bought 2 Noctua Redux 140mm. I pretend to install both of them in the front panel and transfer that current 120mm stock to the top back exhausting. Maybe they arrive tomorrow or tuesday.

Looking at power readings from the posted screenshots they never exceed the expected ~90W for a stock 2600X. This means that whatever the voltages/clocks are they do not cause an abnormal amount of heat.

So, the power that's dissipated is normal, the 98c temperature is not. There are only 2 possibilities as far as I am concerned : the temperature readings are wrong or the cooling is not doing it's job.

I agree, I think my cooler has something wrong, probably a bad instalation or Vega 56 is heating the case too much.

Im guessing after a long gaming sesh the ambient temp in the case is rising considerably with that Vega 56 - and it's probably exhausting it's hot air right into the wraith cooler.

Makes sense, but vega 56 is not getting really high temps. I´m running it on 1030mv and 1615mghz now because of this heat problem.

First, post a photo of the inside of your case so we can have a look at how things are set up.

Next, use the onboard jumper to reset your Mainboard's BIOS to factory stock settings. You're not overclocking anyway, so let the mainboard set itself up properly @stock.

If your temps are still high, then the CPU cooler is having problems of some sort. repaste/reseat cooler at this point.

If your temps are still high, bite the bullet and buy a better than stock cooler for your CPU.

Hmm, I know all I done in the bios. I changed my fan curves after this problem and made all of them with a more aggresive curve.

You can see in my second picture the rpm of all my fans. I dont know whats the max of the cpu cooler but it normally shows max 2800 or something. The default case fans are fractal xg2 which are suposely max rpm 1200. The pump as it shows is at 1331 rpm at max load. The "system1" I supose is the exhaust one and it shows only max 986 rpm.

In the bios settings I noticed that the smart fan graph for the system1 it onlly showed voltage and was at default 7v and I turned on the smart fan control and made an aggressive curve to it that goes 12 volts at max rate.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

Did you reseat the cooler?

 

[Vario]

Did you reseat the cooler?

I am certain thats the problem: his paste and mount is probably bad.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I am certain thats the problem: his paste and mount is probably bad.

I was saying this at the beginning of the thread though don't think he answered the question

 

[ENEMY]

I was saying this at the beginning of the thread though don't think he answered the question

I said I think that´s the problem too, but it´s sunday, I only have 5 years old thermal paste here and i´m not sure it´s enough to make a "pea size" to install it. That´s why I asked before If I could use 2 different thermal pastes and mix them before, which I doubt.

 

[eidairaman1]

I said I think that´s the problem too, but it´s sunday, I only have old thermal paste here and i´m not sure it´s enough to make a "pea size" to install it. That´s why I asked before If I could use 2 different thermal pastes before..

No dont mix thermal compounds.

 

[NdMk2o1o]

I said I think that´s the problem too, but it´s sunday, I only have 5 years old thermal paste here and i´m not sure it´s enough to make a "pea size" to install it. That´s why I asked before If I could use 2 different thermal pastes and mix them before, which I doubt.

You have a 100c processor I'd rather use what you have for a reseat until you can buy some more instead of my hardware dying, but that's just me .....

 

[ENEMY]

You have a 100c processor I'd rather use what you have for a reseat until you can buy some more instead of my hardware dying, but that's just me .....

By just looking at it, the installation looks even but can´t really guarantee it. But I dont have a 100c processor lol. I got a 98 spike while streaming a few days ago. I´m running 82 max only playing and now I opened the case and I´m having 75 max.

 

[IceShroom]

The solution for your problem is getting a better cooler. A 120mm tower cooler will sufficient and those are not that expensive.
Wraith Spire is good for running at stock 95W TDP, but not with PBO on.

 

[Caring1]

The Meshify-C is a high airflow case so shouldn't have problems with heat.
Try Positive case pressure having one exhaust fan mounted at the top, and all other fans as intake fans, including the one at the back.

 

[phanbuey]

By just looking at it, the installation looks even but can´t really guarantee it. But I dont have a 100c processor lol. I got a 98 spike while streaming a few days ago. I´m running 82 max only playing and now I opened the case and I´m having 75 max.

The fact that you're getting 75 with an open case kind of points to an airflow issue. Once you sort that out should be all good. The vega doesnt need to get that hot to create a heat cloud around the proc (try it, put your hand above it when gaming)...

Getting a better cooler wouldnt hurt things.

 

[ENEMY]

The Meshify-C is a high airflow case so shouldn't have problems with heat.
Try Positive case pressure having one exhaust fan mounted at the top, and all other fans as intake fans, including the one at the back.

I was wondering what positive pressure is and how it works. You say that config will do that? I could try different configs and see what´s best.

The fact that you're getting 75 with an open case kind of points to an airflow issue. Once you sort that out should be all good. The vega doesnt need to get that hot to create a heat cloud around the proc (try it, put your hand above it when gaming)...

Getting a better cooler wouldnt hurt things.

Really feeling I should get a cooler if I want to be able to stream. I actually got a max of 78 after I posted that message, even with an open air case, still too high. Like, even if replace the thermal paste and remount the wraith spire and even after the new fans I will probably get high temps if I stream right?

 

[eidairaman1]

I was wondering what positive pressure is and how it works. You say that config will do that? I could try different configs and see what´s best.




Really feeling I should get a cooler if I want to be able to stream. I actually got a max of 78 after I posted that message, even with an open air case, still too high. Like, even if replace the thermal paste and remount the wraith spire and even after the new fans I will probably get high temps if I stream right?

Positive pressure is more intake fans blowing, less exhaust fans.

So are you getting MX4 or are you sitting on your hands?

 

[ENEMY]

Positive pressure is more intake fans blowing, less exhaust fans.

So are you getting MX4 or are you sitting on your hands?

Ah ok, will try both setups then and see what´s best, but per example, if my 2 140mm intake fans are way superior to the 2 default fans I have and will use as exhaust, will that create positive pressure too?

How can I know if the 5 years old Silver 5 I have here it´s still good to go? Does silver 5 have a long time to cure compared to MX4 or it doesnt matter that much?

I have to go get the noctua fans I bought, it´s a store that is close to my house and they actually sell the lowest price MX4 I found out in the internet in my countrie so will probably buy it there too unless this Silver 5 is good tho.

About coolers I found a Be quiet Dark Pro 4 at 69€. Is it overkill for this cpu? In termos of upgrades, will I be able to transfer it to future sockets after AM4 is done?