How do you feel about "Cloud Computing"?

[bobbybluz]

I'm old and still will never trust anything critical to something I can't physically touch if I want to. When doing A/V production I also make redundant backups while doing the projects.

 

[Bill_Bright]

There is no cloud, it’s just someone else’s computer.

And the big pipes between them. I just - like 30 minutes ago - was watching a Science Channel show on deep sea, transoceanic telecommunications cables. And they had some VP at Google explain how 98% of the worlds data is constantly being moved about between global industries/companies (including cloud/data centers), banks, governments, stock exchanges and individuals via deep sea fiber cables. It is multiple petabytes every second.

I trust the cloud will never lose my data. I don't trust the cloud will never be hacked. In fact, IMO, it is when, not if it will be hacked.

 

[claes]

Of course the cloud will be hacked, it has been multiple times. But when you have multiple, redundant servers, some offline, you simply patch and restore.

Of course that kind of redundancy is pricy, but following the 3-2-1 method, what’s better — one offline backup stored off-site that’s updated every now and again or multiple, online and off-site backups that are updated at will? Obvs “both” is best, but if you have to choose, and for practicality’s sake, the cloud has some advantages.

More, given the multi-billion dollar industry that is the cloud, there’s a level of insurance you’ll never get if someone steals or hacks your personal off-site backup. It’s one user vs another without the cloud, with the cloud it’s some hacking group vs thousands of white hats, billions in investment, and state and capital interests. There’s a reason banks and the like use the cloud rather than relying on their own IT team.

 

[Frick]

There is no cloud, it’s just someone else’s computer.

Microsoft is much better at handling storage than me.

Understood and I also did experience Onedrive. Its not bad, among cloud storage on Windows certainly among the best. But 100GB... thats 10% space on a regular sized current SSD even. Thats what, 10-12 bucks worth of local space. Of course onedrives dont go bad. But still...

See above. Not enough for universal backup, of course, but really important things, and for sharing big files it's ace.

 

[Solaris17]

See above. Not enough for universal backup, of course, but really important things, and for sharing big files it's ace.

So I wrote something on this god over a decade ago I think. I actually have a pretty legit trick if I do say so.

So with onedrive it duplicates all your stuff right? It creates a onedrive folder then has a preset list of user folders it copies to them, then it syncs those copies online.

So what I do to save space and backup more is I set one drive to be on a separate drive, I dont mean partition I mean separate drive.

Then I go into the user folder C:\users\usernamehere

These house all the core folders the account needs for windows to function. If you right click on these and select properties you will find an added "location" tab in which you can set where these folders exist.

Now folder redirection isnt new by any stretch, the key here is to change the location to INSIDE the onedrive folder on my other disk. You see when setting up one drive it asks you and provides a list of folders to backup, but this is just a user experience thing. EVERYTHING inside the onedrive folder gets backed up no matter what.

Once I redirect all the folders all my shit syncs down or up all the time. Onedrive also has versions by default. deleted? ransomware? just restore the previous version.

Everytime I format, nothing is on my OS drive. I just blow it away. Install windows, signin to one drive, redirect my user folders, all my shits back.

Second data drive gets wiped? It doesnt matter! You just have to download it all instead of having a local copy, but since your folders were initially redirected you still never lost a thing because it always sync'd


Anyway im crazy off topic. Listen. Users on this forum, in this thread and in life in general have TERRIBLE hygeine when it comes to patches and updates. Of COURSE cloud providers are going to get hacked and targeted, thats the dumbest shit I have ever read. Unless you are diligent in your patching of your device firmware and have a solid backup plan as far as security is in general (not in the sense of data per se) cloud providers run much more secure than any of your things at home. EVEN THEN the things at home are on slower security patch cycles than any enterprise software or gear so you are already behind the curve.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I always have offline backup copies not to mention different machines with the same files so I sure don't need third party cloud storage scrutiny of my files which is the best part of cloud your files are now theirs that own and hack the cloud
And if I did I'd just create my own cloud sure like my terms of use and penalties better than theirs

 

[lexluthermiester]

There is no cloud, it’s just someone else’s computer.

Exactly. Someone else's computer you ultimately have ZERO control over.. Can't trust what you can't control.

 

[Solaris17]

This is exactly why it’s a poor comparison.

It was

Time to move on.

Agreed play time is over you two.

 

[sLowEnd]

I avoid cloud whenever possible. It can be convenient in some cases, but I never use cloud as the sole repository for anything important. I might use it to share some temporary notes, memes, or things of that sort.

 

[trparky]

I use it as offsite backups for things like pictures from my vacations and of family that I simply can't lose.