How is this card...

[hat]

So I was thinking about getting this video card. I can probably get it to do 600/1500. So, at stock levels do you think it's on-par with my x1800? Thing is my x1800 will lock up and crash my OpenGL games (doom3...) and I want an Nvidia card because they have better OpenGL support. Besides, this x1800 artifacts and is really nothing more than a hunka junk that lets me play some DirectX games.

I think this is a smart move since I got an SLI chipset I can throw another one in for SLI mode around Christmas time.

I think my 5200+ can keep up with SLI 8600gt, do you? I DO plan to OC it... just not now... because my stock cooling needs to spin at 5.4K RPM to keep my CPU at safe temps lol

 

[mullered07]

no if anything at least get a 8600gts the 8600gt is not that good and wont be on a par with ur x1800

 

[freaksavior]

i would get a gts if you can afford it. then it may be on par with the x1800

 

[insider]

The 8600GTS sucks, get a 1950XT to see real improvements over the X1800.

 

[niko084]

The 8600GTS sucks, get a 1950XT to see real improvements over the X1800.

You realize at the same time a 1950xt starts at about $80 above what he was looking at to start with.... And thats almost double.

 

[insider]

You realize at the same time a 1950xt starts at about $80 above what he was looking at to start with.... And thats almost double.

Yes but the 8600 series sucks compared to the X1800, the only other option is the X1950GT/Pro or 7900GT but that is barely better than his X1800.

 

[niko084]

Yes but the 8600 series sucks compared to the X1800, the only other option is the X1950GT/Pro or 7900GT but that is only slightly better than his X1800.

Well then it comes down to do you want DX10 or not?

 

[freaksavior]

the 8600gts card perform well enough for dx9 but in dx10 it sucks.

 

[niko084]

the 8600gts card perform well enough for dx9 but in dx10 it sucks.

Yes but you can get a card that performs better in dx9 for cheaper

 

[carrot]

hat didnt u already make a topic somewhere about getting a 8600 and everyone told u not to get one and u didnt listen?

 

[mullered07]

Yes but the 8600 series sucks compared to the X1800, the only other option is the X1950GT/Pro or 7900GT but that is barely better than his X1800.

thats why i had a x1950pro before this 8600gts and this trades blows with the x1950pro very well and beats a x1800 hands down while playing lost planet dx10 at average fps 35+, at least know what your talking about before your brain sends the signals to your hands to type

hat didnt u already make a topic somewhere about getting a 8600 and everyone told u not to get one and u didnt listen?

ppl were telling him to at least get the gts as the gt sux

 

[insider]

thats why i had a x1950pro before this 8600gts and this trades blows with the x1950pro very well and beats a x1800 hands down while playing lost planet dx10 at average fps 35+, at least know what your talking about before your brain sends the signals to your hands to type

That is contrary to all benches comparing the 8600GTS to the X1950 Pro

Average 35FPS is barely what you'd call a good framerate and at what resolution, at what settings?

 

[Tatty_Two]

No he was considering a 8500GT then.

 

[oldswab]

Almost right? Let me edit just a little?

Well then it comes down to do you want the box your card comes in to say DX10 in the specs area or not?

With an 8600 you get a *lovely green box* that says "Fully Microsoft DX10 Compliant" on the side. I doubt you'd actually want to try to run a full-blown DX10 game with DX10 eyecandy at any decent resolution with any decent amount of AA/AF and lighting/shadow effects. Add to that the fact that there aren't any DX10-only games in the pipe yet...and there won't be M$ breaks XP enough with their *patches* to force people to upgrade...and you get a big yawn on a DX10-spec'd video card(board) box.

x1950pro would be head and shoulders above an 8600 for about the same price, add combinations of esses tees and gees (tsgst? an anagram! to the 8600) you prefer. x1950xt would be MUCH better still but it's going to be about $60 more for even a cheaper one and the fan sounds like a dusbuster until you *fix it*. Oh, and you need a decent psu for an xt.

 

[niko084]

Almost right? Let me edit just a little?



With an 8600 you get a *lovely green box* that says "Fully Microsoft DX10 Compliant" on the side. I doubt you'd actually want to try to run a full-blown DX10 game with DX10 eyecandy at any decent resolution with any decent amount of AA/AF and lighting/shadow effects. Add to that the fact that there aren't any DX10-only games in the pipe yet...and there won't be M$ breaks XP enough with their *patches* to force people to upgrade...and you get a big yawn on a DX10-spec'd video card(board) box.

x1950pro would be head and shoulders above an 8600 for about the same price, add combinations of esses tees and gees (tsgst? an anagram! to the 8600) you prefer. x1950xt would be MUCH better still but it's going to be about $60 more for even a cheaper one and the fan sounds like a dusbuster until you *fix it*. Oh, and you need a decent psu for an xt.

Good point!

 

[hat]

I am getting the 8600gt because I don't have enough loot for a GTS, and I like the fact that it doesn't need a power connector. Like previously stated I can always run two 8600GT in SLI at christmas time.

Besides I am more experianced with Nvidia. The first card I overclocked was an Nvidia 5200FX. I can overclock this 8600GT in much the same way, and when I get two of them and overclock I will be getting some pretty good results.

 

[oldswab]

Besides I am more experianced with Nvidia. The first card I overclocked was an Nvidia 5200FX. I can overclock this 8600GT in much the same way, and when I get two of them and overclock I will be getting some pretty good results.

Then you'd do better ebaying the lone 8600 at xmas and buying a 320mb 8800gts (probably $215-$250 by then). Check your psu before you sli 2x8600's or before you buy a gaming card (if you eventually decide to do that) first. Your psu company seems to hide their technical specifications very well; I spent ten minutes poking around their website for detailed info on the amps, and couldn't find any. This is the one, right?

http://www.mdmm.com/spec.php?productid=114

also keep in mind there are limits to the power that a PCI-E slot can provide (75W); overclocking on slot power alone is...iffy sometimes. toss a second video card in there at your discretion, but if you're already overclocking your processor in a fully configured system...well, again check your psu to make sure you've got a good 27-30A on the +12v rail(s). active power factor correction wouldn't hurt, either.

 

[mullered07]

That is contrary to all benches comparing the 8600GTS to the X1950 Pro

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DO YOU WANT TO SEE MY BENCHES WHERE MY 8600GTS RIPS APART MY X1950PRO? IN 3DMARK AND IN GAMES WHERE GAMES INC: F.E.A.R, COD2, DOOM3, R6LV, GTASA. I COULD GO ON....

Average 35FPS is barely what you'd call a good framerate and at what resolution, at what settings?

I SAID 35+ PLUS BEING THE PROMINENT WORD HERE, IT WAS ON MED/HIGH SETTINGS @ 1440X900 RES AND ID SAYS ANYTHING ABOVE 35 FPS IS DECENT AS ITS MORE THAN PLAYABLE AS OPPOSED TO A DX9 CARD NOT PLAYING IT FULL STOP

and i know my 8600gts would pwn your 1950gt any day of the week, no matter what you say, im no fan boy my x1950pro kicked ass, now i have similar/better perf (game depandant) with an nvidia card and the added advantage of dx10 (kinda useless as dx10.1 is coming out, oh well will still run dx10.0 titles right?). its called best bang for the buck, i know my last rig was an X2 ill bet your gonna tell me the X2 pwns the core 2 duo's aswell are you

if amd/ati can come up with better when i come to upgrade next (wont be too long i see a 8800gts in the pipelines) then ill be moving over to amd/ati again, but tbh i dont see amd beating intels penryn (sorry amd) nor the hd 2*** series beating the 8*** anytime soon.
Edit: my bad was using caps to write up an essay forgot to switch

 

[kwchang007]

I am getting the 8600gt because I don't have enough loot for a GTS, and I like the fact that it doesn't need a power connector. Like previously stated I can always run two 8600GT in SLI at christmas time.

Besides I am more experianced with Nvidia. The first card I overclocked was an Nvidia 5200FX. I can overclock this 8600GT in much the same way, and when I get two of them and overclock I will be getting some pretty good results.

Wait till christmas and get a 8800 gts?

 

[hat]

I can't wait, there's alot of games I can't play cause this card malfunctions.
To oldswab, my PSU got 30A on a single rail

 

[InnocentCriminal]

Sounds to me Hat you're set on having a DX10 card now - that's all fine and dandy. I'd look on eBay for a 8600 - as you said you can easily OC the card(s) later on. I had an X1600 Pro until I bought a 20.1" TFT - couldn't hack not being able to play games at the native resolution of the TFT so I forked out for a X1950 Pro as soon as a 512MB AGP version was released. I guess you could say I wasted money on the X1600 Pro, but as I had broken my 9800 AIW I had t'have a card ASAP.

Choose wisely and read as many reviews on the card you're looking at as you can. I'd advise trying to find a 512MB version as the extra RAM will be a god-send for texture hungry games.

 

[cdawall]

do this one
http://guru3d.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=37979346

http://www.bootdaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=626&Itemid=56

clocks like crazy 800mhz core 2ghz ram

 

[hat]

do this one
http://guru3d.pricegrabber.com/search_getprod.php?masterid=37979346

http://www.bootdaily.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=626&Itemid=56

clocks like crazy 800mhz core 2ghz ram

I only got enough $$ for the Chaintech. I got no income and no way to save any money

 

[cdawall]

I only got enough $$ for the Chaintech. I got no income and no way to save any money

oh well should still oc like mad all GT's do