I Want Bigger & Better Than This!!

[BarbaricSoul]

thank you for putting up with all my questions

That's one of the reasons I hang out here, to help others with thier computers. It's fun for me.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

The point is you wont see jack for difference in your fps, now don't go playing a movie, some music and a virus scan and run a benchmark with the game.....

I have another machine with Vista x64 e6420 @ 3.2 and 4gb of ram the only game I ever get any performance difference in is Supreme Commander, which is a memory HOG in long 4+ player games.

Remember where free ram is vista will use, it doesn't mean your going to get anything out of it.

I mean that may change in the near future, but currently its absolutely minimal.
Not saying don't buy 4gb, just saying the difference is nill is existent at all.

Dude, what the hell are you talking about? The RAM is needed to help ensure the game runs smoothly and loads the game AND Windows quicker. If you dont have enough ram, game performance will suffer resulting in a loss of FPS.

 

[CrAsHnBuRnXp]

Solid state disks arent worth the money at this time. Dont even bother with them.

 

[bigtye]

To op,

Also consider http://www.pccasegear.com.au/

I have used both scorptec and pccasegear and found them to be both v good. Sometimes though there are price differences between them that are worth taking advantage of. So check both sites before ordering.

You can find cheaper elsewhere online but with some less reputible business, you can order and pay for something shown as available and then be told the item is not in stock and they can take a long time to get it for you, like weeks/months. Never had this problem with though with scorptec or pccasegear.

Tye

 

[mlee49]

oh my god the price $2,099.99

if i change a previous Video Card by the newest

$17308.36 - $1,319,98(old vga) = $15 988,38
new vga $8399.96 ($2,099.99*4)

$15 988,38 + $ 8399.96 = $$$ 24,388,34

ok you want start crazy prices take this

ASUS P5E64 WS EVOLUTION LGA 775 Intel X48 ATX Intel Motherboard
this mobo with 4 way crossfire $359.99

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131300

ATI 100-505509 FireGL V8650 2GB PCI Express x16 Workstation Video Card
it is work station card but sure it run games better than anyone , so make it 4 crossfire
$2,099.99*4=$8399.96
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814195055

Meh,$24k please! Cray has a new $100K super computer that will get like a million fps in rollercoaster tycoon.

Seriously though if your fine with installing drivers and OS and you don't mind being your own tech support then build one, but anything over $1000 is a bit too much imo. I would think about what you want it for and build around that, not around the latest hardware or software.
I hope you enjoy the new build and find a computer that fits your needs.

 

[5Babies]

Thank you Tye for the link I'll be checking them out as well, scorptec are pretty good with their prices compared to some of the other sites I've visited, even with the P&H cost.

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/AirCooling/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2123&ProductName=G-Power

I know I need one of these for the CPU, what I don't know is, does it come with the CPU when I buy it or do I have to purchase it seperately?

I like this one cause the case I'm getting has a see through side panel & this will look really at night

 

[bigtye]

The CPU cooler that you have a link to is an aftermarket one. Normally when you buy a boxed CPU new, they come with their own HSF (heat sink+fan). These are fine for normal operating temperatures.

If you want to overclock or prefer the look of an after market one then simply don't install the one that comes with the cpu, you should keep it though 'cause if you seel your CPU later on, you sell it with the hsf it came with and keep your nice one.

Some of the guys here could point you in the right direction for good heat sinks, there are heaps out there but some are not much better than the stock one that comes with your CPU, and are a waste of money.

Cheers

Tye

 

[5Babies]

Thanks Tye, I wasn't sure about the HSF coming with the CPU, now I do & I can save my money.

I'm so glad I found this site, I don't feel like an idiot when I'm asking for help

 

[BarbaricSoul]

Thank you Tye for the link I'll be checking them out as well, scorptec are pretty good with their prices compared to some of the other sites I've visited, even with the P&H cost.

http://www.gigabyte.com.tw/Products/AirCooling/Products_Spec.aspx?ProductID=2123&ProductName=G-Power

I know I need one of these for the CPU, what I don't know is, does it come with the CPU when I buy it or do I have to purchase it seperately?

I like this one cause the case I'm getting has a see through side panel & this will look really at night

we already talked about them Babies, remember?

If your not gonna do any over-clocking, no need to get any aftermarket coolers(HHD, RAM, or CPU)

 

[5Babies]

Oops I forgot Thanks for reminding me BarbaricSoul. My memory's not the best when I'm pregnant.

Well I'm proud to say that I've bought 3 things already for my new PC, a Memory Card Reader, a DVD Burner & a Wirless Keyboard & Mouse Combo

I'm going to try & get something everyweek, so hopefully I should have it all up & running before bubs arrives.

 

[5Babies]

Ok! Now I'm totally freaked out, just looked at the step by step instructions on how to install all these components. It just looks like to much for me, the wires going everywhere have me totally
Spacers for the mobo, make sure this plug goes to this socket, make sure the wires look like this etc.
I can handle putting in the DVD Burner & Card Reader myself, but the rest might be a too big a job for me
Scorptec will install the major parts for me for $50 so I might just do that, seen as though I'm getting most of the components through them anyway, just at the moment, decisions decisions

 

[BarbaricSoul]

putting a computer together isn't nearly as hard as it sounds, most the wires are designed so they can only be plugged into the correct ports. It's really not that hard, if you have the patience and persistance to raise 4 kids with a 5th on the way, you can handle building a computer.

 

[imperialreign]

Ok! Now I'm totally freaked out, just looked at the step by step instructions on how to install all these components. It just looks like to much for me, the wires going everywhere have me totally
Spacers for the mobo, make sure this plug goes to this socket, make sure the wires look like this etc.
I can handle putting in the DVD Burner & Card Reader myself, but the rest might be a too big a job for me
Scorptec will install the major parts for me for $50 so I might just do that, seen as though I'm getting most of the components through them anyway, just at the moment, decisions decisions

it's really not too bad - just take everything one step at a time

whenever I replace my case, or pull everything out for a through clean, my re-install typicall goes like this:


*intall case fans

*install motherboard spacers (if I removed them)

*install motherboard I/O panel at back of case

*install PSU

*install motherboard and CPU cooler

*install DRAM

*install ATX conncetor and CPU connector on motherboard

*install HDDs, ODDs, FDDs - connect to motherboard and PSU

*connect front panel, case fan connectors to motherboard

*install video card, audio card, connectors to PSU

*plug in all connectors at rear of case



If you handle each unit and piece of hardware one at a time, it's actually a lot less complicated than it seems.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

If you handle each unit and piece of hardware one at a time, it's actually a lot less complicated than it seems

exactly

 

[5Babies]

[/QUOTE]if you have the patience and persistance to raise 4 kids with a 5th on the way, you can handle building a computer. [/QUOTE]

Hmmmmmmm You'd think that hey. I'm worried about trying to have all the parts laid out without the kids getting to them, screws getting lost etc. I'll have a debate with myself with the Pros & Cons while I'm asleep & then I'll decide in the morning

 

[BarbaricSoul]

you might have to get a baby sitter for a few hours then

 

[5Babies]

Babysitter not an option, unfortunately kids won't let anyone but me or their dad look after them
Scorptec will test the pc before they ship it to me, it comes with a warranty, so I'm thinking I'll get them to do the mobo etc & I'll do the optical drives etc
So I'm letting them do the hard parts & I'll do the easy parts

 

[modder]

exactly!

 

[BarbaricSoul]

well unless they're gonna hook up everything in the case, your still gonna have to deal with hooking up all the wires to the motherboard for your HDs, disk drives, power supply, and if it needs one, power wire for your graphics card. I think all that $50 is gonna get you is a motherboard with the processor and RAM installed, which aint crap to do yourself.

 

[5Babies]

[/QUOTE]All Hardware Components Assembled and configured along with neat cabling. Overnight Burn-in Test Performed Once built. Windows or any other OS not included/installed. This fee is only applicable to 1-6 Hardware Components purchased from Scorptec. All Individual Internal Hardware Components are counted towards this total, including case (but not power supply if it comes with the case)

This is what Scorptec will do for $50 it also comes with 1yr Warranty or I can add more hardware & that will be $85 with 1yr Warranty.

So does this sound any good? or Should i try & do it myself. Had the debate with myself still couldn't decide Females hey

What does PSU with Cable Management mean? I know PSU is the power supply but Cable Management?

 

[BarbaricSoul]

first off, I thought you were gonna buy the parts one at a time, you'll need everything at once for Scorptec to assemble it.

second, $50 only pays for 1-6 components. case, motherboard, processor, 1 stick of ram, another stick of ram, video card, powe..... opps, that'll be the 7th component, and you'll still have your power supply, hard drive, cd drive/drives, and card readers, plus anything else you might decide to get.

third, they don't install windows, that's the most time comsuming part of a basic computer build.

I say for you to try to put it together yourself, or maybe find a friend that can do it for you. I just don't think what Scorptec is offering is worth $50.

 

[BarbaricSoul]

Also, take a look inside your current computer's tower, look around in there, see if you can make any sence out of what's going on in there. If you can do that, you can put a whole computer together.

 

[5Babies]

I was being a chicken about putting the PC together, just didn't want to stuff anything up. Lucky I'm not a quitter, I shall persevere & stick to my original plan of doing it myself.

I already have windows on my current PC so I was just going to use that on my new one. Also I have to agree with you Barbaric, it will be alot cheaper for me to do what I orginally planned. And I've also bought some of the parts already.

I'll blame my little melt down on being pregnant

 

[BarbaricSoul]

I already have windows on my current PC so I was just going to use that on my new one.

Sorry girl, but your gonna have to do a full reinstall of windows for the new system, the reason being is your new hardware will need totally new drivers to run. The only way to get these is with a fresh install. If you want to keep what's on your current hard drive(programs, music, pictures, videos) I suggest getting a new hard drive for your new windows install and use your current drive as a extra hard drive(slave drive) for storage.

 

[5Babies]

Nothing is easy hey, That's ok, I'll reinstall windows on the new HDD, also I didn't know that I could keep all of my pics & stuff on the current hard drive & then just put it into the new PC. I thought I'd have to store everything to a flash drive & then put it all back on the new PC.
Thank you Barbaric, you are a lifesaver