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I'm getting motion sickness when playing FPS games

Yeah, it will. :ohwell: I think not having the strobing on the whole time on the desktop will help to reduce the effect, though. Fiddling with FOV might help, too.

I've made a significant edit to my previous post if you wanna check it out. :)
 
qubit said:
Thanks, I'll try out those FOV settings.
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Do not hate on me for this,instead contemplated for a while in silence : stop playing video games, or don't play them so often. You don't need to adjust the settings. You need to get away from your computer.
There was a time when i used to spend ,work wise, a lot of hours on the pc. (I still do ). What i did i started jogging about 4 years a go. Ever since it all got better. I run for 30 minutes a day,maybe 1 hour / 3 days a week. I used to do 4 days a week. Depends on how tight your schedule is. Running out door (NOT indoor) NEVER indoor! Forget about that horrible running mill.
Running improves cardio, anxiety, free of stress, eliminates huge amount of toxins,and the rest you can google. Working out with heavy weights at the gym is not so benefic. You are in a room,mostly with other sweaty people, focusing your work out on a small group of muscles per training session. If you noticed most people that are hard core gymaholics, are almost always ina rage. There tens and "pumped up as they call it" . Applying pressure on certain muscles areas , without getting enough "brain ventilation". This way you are accumulating tension instead of releasing it.
I combined running with the gym. It was hard, i got good results but it toked up all of my time. Keeping a healthy diet, getting enough sleep, reading books instead of computer time. I did wonders for me for awhile. But you can't afford this life style forever. Not unless you have a very big bank account.
All i can tell you running got rid of my acne. After i have battled with this virus for many years.
Finding excuses how to set up your settings,just so you can keep spending long hours in front of your computer,is wrong. The whole thing is starting to take its toll on you.
Healthy physical exercises are the key.
 
Trust me, it's the FOV. I can play for 12 hours without a break if FOV is ok. But when I tried playing Battlefield 4 and Bulletstorm without FOV fix, I had to stop after half an hour because my eyes were in pain and I got a headache. And this is only happening now that lazy developers are making this narrow console crap FOV. In the pre year 2000 era, I NEVER ever had these issues. And I still don't for games that have good FOV. Usually PC only games. Anything that touches consoles usually gets corrupted with narrow FOV that (usually) can't be changed at all. Or so little it makes no difference (BioShock Infinite). Humans have 90° FOV with additional extended peripheral view. Stop forcing us this horrible 45° FOV for fucks sake developers.
 
Cvrk said:
Do not hate on me for this,instead contemplated for a while in silence : stop playing video games, or don't play them so often. You don't need to adjust the settings. You need to get away from your computer.
There was a time when i used to spend ,work wise, a lot of hours on the pc. (I still do ). What i did i started jogging about 4 years a go. Ever since it all got better. I run for 30 minutes a day,maybe 1 hour / 3 days a week. I used to do 4 days a week. Depends on how tight your schedule is. Running out door (NOT indoor) NEVER indoor! Forget about that horrible running mill.
Running improves cardio, anxiety, free of stress, eliminates huge amount of toxins,and the rest you can google. Working out with heavy weights at the gym is not so benefic. You are in a room,mostly with other sweaty people, focusing your work out on a small group of muscles per training session. If you noticed most people that are hard core gymaholics, are almost always ina rage. There tens and "pumped up as they call it" . Applying pressure on certain muscles areas , without getting enough "brain ventilation". This way you are accumulating tension instead of releasing it.
I combined running with the gym. It was hard, i got good results but it toked up all of my time. Keeping a healthy diet, getting enough sleep, reading books instead of computer time. I did wonders for me for awhile. But you can't afford this life style forever. Not unless you have a very big bank account.
All i can tell you running got rid of my acne. After i have battled with this virus for many years.
Finding excuses how to set up your settings,just so you can keep spending long hours in front of your computer,is wrong. The whole thing is starting to take its toll on you.
Healthy physical exercises are the key.
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You're right though. Moderation is good. I'm too lazy to exercise though.
 
I had a friend that used to get sick when he played Descent I & II.
The 360 degree rotational movement nailed him after 10 minutes or so. Nobody else that I knew had the issue.
 
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Just a quick update everybody.

It seems that I get this motion sickness mostly when I have a bout of migraines. They went away a few days ago and this sicky feeling went away with it. I can even have my monitor's backlight set to strobed the whole time on the desktop as well as when playing a game and I'm still ok.

If I sit too close to the monitor so that it fills my vision and it's displaying certain kinds of motion, I can still feel it a bit though, but I suspect that would affect most people that way.
 
qubit said:
Just a quick update everybody.

It seems that I get this motion sickness mostly when I have a bout of migraines. They went away a few days ago and this sicky feeling went away with it. I can even have my monitor's backlight set to strobed the whole time on the desktop as well as when playing a game and I'm still ok.

If I sit too close to the monitor so that it fills my vision and it's displaying certain kinds of motion, I can still feel it a bit though, but I suspect that would affect most people that way.
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I advise getting some kind of blue UV light blocking glasses as suggested. Artificial blue light is high intensity and can cause eye fatigue, insomnia, headaches, and even nausea. The combination of that = motion sickness. It can also make your eyes blink less, causing dryness and actual physical damage.

Anyone that sits in front of a digital display for long periods is susceptible to it. The closer you are to the screen, the more your eyes see the screen vs surroundings. This is why it's worse for you when you sit close.

There are many brands of gaming eyewear now, but any yellow, amber or orange tinted lenses will block out blue light. Thus there are many, many options from sports glasses, to shooting range glasses to night driving glasses.

I'm considering getting a pair of Gunnar MLG Phantoms that I found for $62, but for now I'm getting by with some orange tinted Ryders I bought for mt biking a long time ago. My Ryders are a bit too dark for gaming though.

My Ryders do increase contrast and clarity, and I can tell when I lift them up and down to see with and without them that they very slightly magnify for better focusing like a lot of gaming and other glasses do.

Gunnars are a bit pricey, but they're designed by a former employee of Oakley, and Oakley always uses high quality materials, very durable coatings, and optically aligned lenses (which IS a thing believe it or not). I've had Oakleys before and they were very good.

Gunnars have been called overpriced, flimsy, etc, but the ones that have a lot of flex to them are made that way to accommodate a wide range of head sizes comfortably, and they use materials like stainless steel and alu-mag alloy. They also have silicone adjustable nose pads for comfort and fit.

Gunnars also have length adjustable straight temple pieces that fit comfortably under headsets and headphones. They will also guarantee comfort and fit for 30 days, offering no stocking fee refunds. They have 2.5x magnification, and are NeoScopic (made for close viewing).

I'm looking to go pale yellow, but any amount of tint WILL slightly change the effective saturation levels of the colors of your display. That however can be easily compensated for by toning down the color saturation of your display a bit, which can even make it last longer.

With something like glasses that you wear for long periods to protect your eyes, you get what you pay for. These are good for lots of things though. Extended gaming or general computer use, any stores or events with lots of displays or fluorescent lighting, night driving, shooting range, etc.

Just a disclaimer, don't forget that eyewear alone can't do it all. A lot of gamers forget to drink and eat, which can cause problems itself. And although you can game 3 to 8 hrs or more, doing it consistently gets your eyes used to focusing at one fixed distance, which is not good for them.

And as mentioned, FOV matters a lot too, many are very negatively affected by narrow FOVs. Check with WSGF.org if you cannot find FOV hacks for the games you're playing. Last resort would be moving back a bit from the screen as you noted.
 
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Thanks Frag. I've heard that those sort of glasses are meant to be quite effective at reducing eye strain. Don't they tint everything yellow though? Also, I'd need a pair that fit over prescription glasses, too.

I'll check out that website.
 
qubit said:
Thanks Frag. I've heard that those sort of glasses are meant to be quite effective at reducing eye strain. Don't they tint everything yellow though? Also, I'd need a pair that fit over prescription glasses, too.

I'll check out that website.
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Actually one of the reasons Gunnars cost more is because they also offer prescription versions, which obviously adds some overhead to their business.

Another option if you want to wear something over your glasses is a reputable brand of yellow safety glasses, which are made slightly oversized, and can be had fairly cheap. They look butt ugly though, so you'd look like super nerd at LAN parties, and they'd likely make use of headsets or headphones uncomfortable.

Gunnar also make clear versions for general computer use, but the tint is what specifically blocks the damaging blue light. It also enhances color and contrast. This is why shooting range and night driving glasses are made yellow. Less glare, more contrast, less fatigue.

You pay a bit more on the actual Gunnar site, an $80 MSRP for the models I mentioned, vs $62 from an Amazon sub vendor, but they have a 10% off offer on their site, plus it's a guaranteed way of getting their satisfaction guaranteed 30 day return privilege, and I would think any potential warranty issues would be handled faster and better too.

I'm one that generally looks for alternative brands when I think a product costs more than I want to pay, but I really haven't liked what I've seen in other brands. Whether it be fit, durability, or styling, the Gunnars are the only ones that seem to have everything I'm looking for, and mind you I've checked into a lot of yellow shooting and night driving glasses too.

Thus I've kinda settled on the best price I can get on a pair of Gunnars, from a site that has a good customer rating.
 
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You can buy expensive glasses, I have no experience with them so can't say whether they really are worth it or not.

But there is also other stuff you can do. Well-lit rooms and adapting monitor brightness is one, another is F.lux.

https://justgetflux.com/

Really helpful, especially when the sun goes down.
 
You are just getting older. Don't forget to see the butt doctor for your annual colon cancer screening!
 
Just a heads up, I've actually been experimenting with trying the clear lenses in my Ryder glasses, as the orange ones are a bit too dark. It does seem to make a difference even though it doesn't block out a lot of blue light like yellow, amber and orange ones do.

I've not tried F.lux but I don't think I'd like it. Their demo seems to show the halo mode not just darkening the screen but changing colors somewhat. Instead I prefer to adjust my room lighting.

I have two semi dark shade (mica) torchiere floor lamps on either side of the displays about 11' apart and I also have venetian blinds I adjust backwards so the light spills upward on the ceiling.

I also have a 18" under cabinet light I got from Lowes, which I taped a bent piece of cardboard to to act as a shade to evenly distribute it's light around the back of my TV.

Between all this I can pretty much play any type of game any time of day depending how I set things up, though I prefer to play the darker horror type games at night for best lighting.
 
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Easy Rhino said:
You are just getting older. Don't forget to see the butt doctor for your annual colon cancer screening!
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And also get yourself checked for diabetes that can bork your vision and Bladder

"No I'M not Taking the piss"
 
Easy Rhino said:
You are just getting older. Don't forget to see the butt doctor for your annual colon cancer screening!
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And there's advice, told Easy Rhino style. :laugh: :D

True though, we all start to fall apart little by little as we get older, just like that old car. The sickie has greatly subsided though since I posted this. I think those cluster migraines had a lot to do with it.
 
You seem to go a while without posting lately Mailman, and at first you're non combative when you step back in, but invariably you always erode into a passive aggressive arsehole.

Your avatar is enough to cause a certain kind of nausea. :rolleyes:
 
My issue with motion sickness didn't really occur until after my brain surgery. Buying this expensive $800 Asus swift helps a lot though. tried playing on a 4k tv and it made me feel sick, but i don't have that issue with this monitor
 
Frag Maniac said:
You seem to go a while without posting lately Mailman, and at first you're non combative when you step back in, but invariably you always erode into a passive aggressive arsehole.

Your avatar is enough to cause a certain kind of nausea. :rolleyes:
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Its possible.....then again no.
 
I think the problem as described by OP was caused specifically by the strobing, which is known to cause CRT-like flicker. It's one tradeoff of G-Sync not commonly mentioned, despite being potentially the most harmful.
 
Frag Maniac said:
I think the problem as described by OP was caused specifically by the strobing, which is known to cause CRT-like flicker. It's one tradeoff of G-Sync not commonly mentioned, despite being potentially the most harmful.
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That's nearly right, Frag. I was getting it whether the display was strobed or not, but the strobing did make it somewhat worse, even just on the desktop. When I realized it, I ran the display unstrobed for a bit and it did help.

I did post somewhere above, that I was going through a period of daily migraines, or "cluster migraines" and now that it's gone, the sickie effect has gone away. Ok, I can still technically feel it a bit at times, but I think there can always be a shade of it for people as a whole, depending on the exact conditions eg type of motion, screen brightness, ambient brightness, how much it fills your vision etc.
 
When I was young, I got a good bit of motion sickness with Red Faction 2. Never really got it with anything else. That was back in the CRT days.
RealNeil said:
I had a friend that used to get sick when he played Descent I & II.
The 360 degree rotational movement nailed him after 10 minutes or so. Nobody else that I knew had the issue.
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Oh man I miss that game. Seems like if any game would make me green around the gills, that would be it, but never had issues oddly enough.
 
All what i can say is:
Many of us here are over 40 and one day or another we have to give up and accept that we are not that young anymore and that we can't pretend to be playing Games for hours and hours as we used to when we were 15/20:eek:
 
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