Input lag is killing me

[Mussels]

In all my years I have never touch this because the type of games I play I don't think it will make any difference., but for the first time in the year 2021 I will take a closer look at this.

it absolutely makes a massive difference, we're talking upto 100ms -TV's are not made for interactive content, they'd buffer and delay content so they could process it and turn interlaced signals into progressive and so on

you 100% need to turn game mode on and all processing features off, on any TV used for any sort of gaming

 

[Lkzz]

I have a laptop, for a desktop the picture may be different. Try adjusting the driver.View attachment 195878

Some theory _https://www.techspot.com/article/2192-screen-tearing-fix-pc-gaming/

If possible test the monitor with another computer with a discrete graphics card.

Oh yes I already tried that, but thanks!

It's the monitor. 5ms is ugly. Plug in a different screen and confirm.

Also, in NV control panel, look for low latency mode, can try that as well. Still think it's the monitor.

The problem is that I dont have another screen to confirm, if I had 100% sure that the problem is the monitor, trust me, I would have already bought

Depends how it means 5ms right ?, BTW,GTG or what they ever please to do these days.,

Yeah that makes sense

it absolutely makes a massive difference, we're talking upto 100ms -TV's are not made for interactive content, they'd buffer and delay content so they could process it and turn interlaced signals into progressive and so on

you 100% need to turn game mode on and all processing features off, on any TV used for any sort of gaming

Man, right after I started playing, I'm 80% sure that one of the first things that I did was activating the "Game mode"

5ms is the standard for the last like, 10 years. Pretty sure it's just some setting that got flicked or the TV is just really, really bad.

Is it possible that I somehow got addicted to the another monitor with 2ms and then when I got back to the 5ms I felt this "input lag"? I really want to buy a new monitor, but first I need to be sure that the monitor is causing the problem, because like I said, I will have to buy a new watercooler, cause mine it's a little bit old and it's making some noises. So I'm afraid I spend tons of money on a new monitor, and that doens´t fix my problem.

 

[Mussels]

the whole 2ms 5ms thing is total bullshit - ignore that. they're likely not even comparing the same thing on the displays.

Go find another display, it's going to give you a better experience no matter what. Old TV's were not made for low latency.

 

[Lkzz]

the whole 2ms 5ms thing is total bullshit - ignore that. they're likely not even comparing the same thing on the displays.

Go find another display, it's going to give you a better experience no matter what. Old TV's were not made for low latency.

Thanks man, but are you sure this is going to solve my problem? I would love if I could run some tests on another monitor, but due to this pandemic, covid and blablabla is really hard to go to some friends house and test. Because I will have to buy another watercooler, that's for sure, and having to spend more money on another monitor is really hard, especially right now, but if it's going to solve my problem I can try, but I want to be sure that's the only solution. And I have to admit, it's kinda funny that this whole thing started after I changed my monitors, but if you're saying that this response time difference is total bullshit I believe.

 

[Toothless]

Thanks man, but are you sure this is going to solve my problem? I would love if I could run some tests on another monitor, but due to this pandemic, covid and blablabla is really hard to go to some friends house and test. Because I will have to buy another watercooler, that's for sure, and having to spend more money on another monitor is really hard, especially right now, but if it's going to solve my problem I can try, but I want to be sure that's the only solution. And I have to admit, it's kinda funny that this whole thing started after I changed my monitors, but if you're saying that this response time difference is total bullshit I believe.

Well you're gonna want a new monitor anyway so if it doesn't fix this problem, it'll fix a different one.

 

[Lkzz]

Well you're gonna want a new monitor anyway so if it doesn't fix this problem, it'll fix a different one.

Yeah I'm looking for other monitor, but what other problem will it fix?

 

[Toothless]

Yeah I'm looking for other monitor, but what other problem will it fix?

The entire problem of using a tv for games.

 

[Lkzz]

The entire problem of using a tv for games.

Well you're right about that, I'm looking for some monitors that I can buy, but it's going to be really hard if that doens't fix my problem. Also I need to buy a new watercooler...

 

[Toothless]

Well you're right about that, I'm looking for some monitors that I can buy, but it's going to be really hard if that doens't fix my problem. Also I need to buy a new watercooler...

Your cooler is fine. The pump works, and your chip isn't overheating or throttling.

 

[Lkzz]

Your cooler is fine. The pump works, and your chip isn't overheating or throttling.

But I'm a little worried because the pump is making a little noise, and also this watercooler is pretty old, almost 9 years.

 

[Toothless]

But I'm a little worried because the pump is making a little noise, and also this watercooler is pretty old, almost 9 years.

Cooler easily wouldn't fix your issue, although you could save money by going air cooling and out that savings to a monitor. Your new chip doesn't pull too bad in terms of power so something like a NH-D15 or Mugen 5 should keep it under control. As for monitors stay away from AOC.

 

[Lkzz]

Cooler easily wouldn't fix your issue, although you could save money by going air cooling and out that savings to a monitor. Your new chip doesn't pull too bad in terms of power so something like a NH-D15 or Mugen 5 should keep it under control. As for monitors stay away from AOC.

What do you suggest for a new monitor? And whats the problem with AOC?

 

[Airisom]

Looks like we have a bit of confusion going on here. Pixel response times aren't signal input times. It may take 5ms for a pixel to go from grey to white and back to grey, but it could take 32ms for you to see your mouse input on the screen. That type of latency can vary dramatically depending on the model.

 

[Lkzz]

Cooler easily wouldn't fix your issue, although you could save money by going air cooling and out that savings to a monitor. Your new chip doesn't pull too bad in terms of power so something like a NH-D15 or Mugen 5 should keep it under control. As for monitors stay away from AOC.

Well compairing the price between the NH-D15 and the watercooler I was thiking about playing, the watercooler is cheaper. But I will see if I really need to buy a new watercooler rn

 

[Toothless]

What do you suggest for a new monitor? And whats the problem with AOC?

Every AOC I've had and seen has been a faded, dead pixel mess. I made the mistake of buying three and two had dead pixels. Tigerdirect wasn't gonna help me so I'm stuck with them still.

I'm running an LG ultra wide and it's been fantastic with my card. Look around to see what people are using and research for what features you want.

 

[Lkzz]

Looks like we have a bit of confusion going on here. Pixel response times aren't signal input times. It may take 5ms for a pixel to go from grey to white and back to grey, but it could take 32ms for you to see your mouse input on the screen. That type of latency can vary dramatically depending on the model.

Alright, so basically after all the information I gave at the first, a lot of people are saying that the problem is the monitor. I use a Samsung TA550 27'' Syncmaster w/ 5ms and they're saying that this is really old and slow for games, and probably buying a new monitor would solve my ''input lag'' problem

Every AOC I've had and seen has been a faded, dead pixel mess. I made the mistake of buying three and two had dead pixels. Tigerdirect wasn't gonna help me so I'm stuck with them still.

I'm running an LG ultra wide and it's been fantastic with my card. Look around to see what people are using and research for what features you want.

I will do a research, but I'm not very interested in a Ultrawide monitor, I will search for some Samsung or Asus monitors, or maybe a LG, but not ultrawide. I was thiking of buying the ASUS VG249Q

 

[Toothless]

Alright, so basically after all the information I gave at the first, a lot of people are saying that the problem is the monitor. I use a Samsung TA550 27'' Syncmaster w/ 5ms and they're saying that this is really old and slow for games, and probably buying a new monitor would solve my ''input lag'' problem

I'm not entirely sure the tv is the issue, but it's easily an issue.

 

[Lkzz]

I'm not entirely sure the tv is the issue, but it's easily an issue.

Yeah I'm not sure that the problem is the TV, but will make it better. But like I said twice before, I'm afraid to spend a lot of money buying a new monitor and that doens't fix my problem at all. And then after buying the TV I find out that the problem is something related to the memorys for example, and I have to buy another one, that'll be really really hard...

 

[Airisom]

Well, it could be the game you're playing too. You're not going to get uniform input lag on every single game as all game engines behave differently. If you can move your mouse around in windows fine with no perceptible lag, but you do when you play games, then you're most likely looking at a game-level latency. Lower framerates can increase that. You will feel more input lag at 30fps than you will at 60fps+ in most cases.

Playing with low latency mode in nvcp might help.

 

[Lkzz]

Well, it could be the game you're playing too. You're not going to get uniform input lag on every single game as all game engines behave differently. If you can move your mouse around in windows fine with no perceptible lag, but you do when you play games, then you're most likely looking at a game-level latency. Lower framerates can increase that. You will feel more input lag at 30fps than you will at 60fps+ in most cases.

If you're talking about low FPS, I'm pretty sure that's not the problem. I usually play only Valorant or CSGO, and always with more than 250fps, so low framerate I really doubt is the problem.

I was thinking could be something related to my mouse, I have a Hyperx Pulsefire Core, but I was searching and I couldn't find anyone with a similar problem, or saying that his sensor is bad and stuff like that. What do you guys think?

Also I posted something related to the input lag at NVIDIA foruns and they suggested me this, I can also try this later, but I'm don't think is gonna work

 

[AsRock]

Water cooler 9 years old ?, don't the rubber tubes loose water over time coursing bubbles ?.

Still think TV be your issue, you have no other monitor or TV you can plug in for a hour ?. I just replaced my old TV which was 12 years old as i was getting shadows and still get them with a newer one but it's a lot less. TV's are not ready for fast gaming yet and 40" monitors are like $800+. So i got one of the last 1080P panels i could find (2019).

 

[Lkzz]

Water cooler 9 years old ?, don't the rubber tubes loose water over time coursing bubbles ?.

Still think TV be your issue, you have no other monitor or TV you can plug in for a hour ?. I just replaced my old TV which was 12 years old as i was getting shadows and still get them with a newer one but it's a lot less. TV's are not ready for fast gaming yet and 40" monitors are like $800+. So i got one of the last 1080P panels i could find (2019).

I dont know about the cooler man, but it's probably the next thing I will buy. And unfortunately I don't have any other monitor that I can test. I have friends which have 144Hz monitors, but due to covid is kinda hard to borrow them for like an hour. I will try to go to a friend's house so I can test.

 

[Calmmo]

Pixel response time and input response time are separate things. For example you can try even old VA panels with double digit response times, you will be noticing blur/ lack of motion clarity not perceived input delays.

 

[Lkzz]

Pixel response time and input response time are separate things. For example you can try even old VA panels with double digit response times, you will be noticing blur/ lack of motion clarity not perceived input delays.

So whay do you think it's causing the problem?

 

[mouacyk]

Yes, basically I am using the same monitor now as I used with the old PC. I used one for a while because it had a smaller time response, it has 2ms and this one that I'm using now has 5ms, I'm not sure but the problem started next when I got my monitor (Samsung TA550) back. I don't know if it is a coincidence or the problem is really the monitor, but I need to be 100% sure before buying a brand new monitor.


View attachment 195857So as you can see I runned the test for like an hour I didn't show any problem. I runned while desktop, running CSGO and just searching random things on Google. By looking at it do you can tell if there's any problem?

Those latencies are high, because a good system is around 100us, 200us tops. Correct drivers for all motherboard components allow them to communicate most efficiently and optimally.

Based on Steam support:

Update Your Chipset Drivers​

Chipset drivers are responsible for controlling communication between various components in your system: the processor, the video card, the hard drives, PCI devices and system memory. Keeping these drivers up to date is important - especially if you are experiencing generally sluggish system performance.

Please visit your motherboard manufacturer's website to determine what type of chipset your motherboard has and where you can find the most recent drivers for it.

There are 4 Maximus 10 boards, so go to the Support section on the motherboard website and download the correct chipset drivers and install them. It's good to make sure you don't have any unknown devices in your device manager, and installing the chipset driver generally resolves that, because then Windows 10 can proceed to install the correct drivers for them.

Also post a screenshot of your running tasks/services from Task Manager. Sort it by CPU usage.