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Intel 14-nanometer Skylake Platform To Support DDR4, PCIe 4.0, SATA Express

Discussion in 'News' started by Over_Lord, Jul 3, 2013.

  1. DayKnight

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    This is the first ever time I am reading '2H'. :wtf:

    The norm or standard is Q1, Q2 etc. Not 1H, 2H etc.
     
  2. radrok

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    To be honest I'm pretty sure who can use more than the Z87's standard platform lane assignment can probably afford an X79 based build...

    The X79 quad + X79 motherboard combo doesn't cost that much more than a Z87 quad + Z87 mobo.
     
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    No 1H and 2H are pretty standard for first and second half. Read through some more news posts amd see youself.
     
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    Well there are 4 quarters and 2 halves in a year, 1H and 2H make perfect sense in the case where the exact quarter isn't known yet.
     
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    I was more or less referring to the cases where people use a RAID card or PCI Express SSD, but like you said in those cases you probably can afford a S2011 cpu and X79 mobo as well.
    Sucks though that X79 is an oldtimer compared to Z87.
     
  6. radrok

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    Indeed, X79 is like an old elephant in Intels building.

    Agreed.
     
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    Z87 has 3.0 lanes tho while 990FX only has 2.0.
     
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    Not entirely true there are some rev 3.0 990FX boards with PCI-E 3.0.
     
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    If by already you mean 2 years, minimum, from now, then yes.
     
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    So seems to be 10% per generation. So from sandy skylake supposedly would be a (ivy, haswell, broadwell, skylake) 40% more performance at stock clocks? My 2500k is going to last me a long time it seems.
     
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    That sounds about right, but don't forget that improvements in bus speeds and memory controllers count for a lot. Look at the difference between your Sandy and the Yorkfield (Core 2 Quad) generation - performance has doubled in about 6 years. So maybe overall performance will nearly double between Sandy and Skylake when you factor in DDR4 and SATA Express. I'm not upgrading my Ivy until then since there's no real reason to.
     
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    One answer for all of your "sheeple" issues.


    ODT
    On Die Termination.
    For memory operating at a significantly higher voltage than die traces can handle, meaning we either have to perform extra steps during manufacturing, or create more traces to dump the voltage.
    For PCIe, most of the same reasons listed above.
    For all other interconnects, see above.

    When all Intel or AMD had to do was create a chip and the NB handled the voltage power differences, termination, and much else it wasn't an issue. However now that it is on die it is becoming much more difficult to maintain signal integrity at lower voltages while assuring reliability with multiple manufacturers of memory, motherboards, PCIe devices.

    Add to this idea that if AMD has figured out heterogeneous memory, Intel is surely on the same path and as we approach the efficiency limit in processing serial data and find parallel falling behind without a "co-processor" added on that needs higher speed memory access we find the need to make the next jump in performance to occur.

    In short, the people you are calling people sheeple in a vain attempt to cover your lack of knowledge know what and why this is needed, so not only do you look like a dick, but a stupid dick.
     
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