Is it a must to install Windows 10 from a flash USB Drive?

andiey · Nov 12, 2019

I have Windows 10 Install on a DVD disc. Since I am building a new system and want to know after setting up the hardware with NVMe only, when I proceed to the Windows installation part, do I need to use a Flash USB drive instead of from the DVD drive?

robot zombie · Nov 12, 2019

...not that I know of. Or at least I've taken that flash drive iso and successfully run off of a DVD. If you actually have an optical drive I don't see why you couldn't use the disk. Just gonna be much bigger updates from the older installer.

I dunno... if it were me I'd just use the tool to create an up-to-date installation drive. Hopefully save a little time later

jsfitz54 · Nov 12, 2019

Create a new USB Windows 10 drive from Here, only use the most current build: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/download-windows-10-esd.216164/

Be sure to scroll down to get Decrypter.

lexluthermiester · Nov 12, 2019

andiey said:
do I need to use a Flash USB drive instead of from the DVD drive?

No. Windows 10 will install perfectly fine from a DVD drive. It'll take about 5 to 10 minutes longer but should otherwise be identical.

hat · Nov 12, 2019

Another vote for the USB drive? Unless you have tons of blank DVDs laying around and no USB drive you can do for this, I see no reason not to create an up to date USB drive.

TheLostSwede · Nov 12, 2019

Keep in mind that for an NVMe drive, you need to use GPT rather than MBR, which is a lot easier with a USB drive than with a DVD.
Also remember to disable CSM mode in the UEFI.

Windows Setup: Installing using the MBR or GPT partition style - Windows 10 hardware dev

newtekie1 · Nov 12, 2019

jsfitz54 said:
Create a new USB Windows 10 drive from Here, only use the most current build: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/download-windows-10-esd.216164/

Be sure to scroll down to get Decrypter.

Also, why use that instead of just downloading the Windows 10 Media Creation tool and letting that do all the work with like 3 clicks?

trparky · Nov 12, 2019

jsfitz54 said:
Create a new USB Windows 10 drive from Here, only use the most current build: https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/download-windows-10-esd.216164/

Be sure to scroll down to get Decrypter.

You do know that there's an easier way, right? Just download the Windows 10 Media Creation Tool and it does it for you. It downloads the appropriate files, decrypts them, and makes the installation media for you whether it be a USB Flash Drive or an ISO file to be later burned to a DVD.

newtekie1 said:
Also, why use that instead of just downloading the Windows 10 Media Creation tool and letting that do all the work with like 3 clicks?

Crap, you got to what I was going to say first.

Zach_01 · Nov 12, 2019

I always go with the usb flash type, creating it with Win10 Media Creation Tool.
Always getting the latest version this way.

jsfitz54 · Nov 12, 2019

HOW DO I KNOW OP's IS OLD?

Omission in the mission statement.

Is 1909 available with the Media Creation Tool yet?

newtekie1 · Nov 12, 2019

jsfitz54 said:
Is 1909 available with the Media Creation Tool yet?

Yes. Not that I would be installing it on any machines yet.

jsfitz54 · Nov 12, 2019

newtekie1 said:
Yes. Not that I would be installing it on any machines yet.

That would be NO.

andiey · Nov 12, 2019

lexluthermiester said:
No. Windows 10 will install perfectly fine from a DVD drive. It'll take about 5 to 10 minutes longer but should otherwise be identical.

So, installing from DVD onto a NMVe will work, could you confirm that?

jsfitz54 said:
HOW DO I KNOW OP's IS OLD?

Omission in the mission statement.

Is 1909 available with the Media Creation Tool yet?

True , mine is 1903, from the previous media creator tool. Is there a new one available from Microsoft?

trparky said:
You do know that there's an easier way, right? Just download the Windows 10 Media Creation Tool and it does it for you. It downloads the appropriate files, decrypts them, and makes the installation media for you whether it be a USB Flash Drive or an ISO file to be later burned to a DVD.

Crap, you got to what I was going to say first.

ty!

jsfitz54 · Nov 12, 2019

andiey said:
True , mine is 1903, from the previous media creator tool. Is there a new one available from Microsoft?

Because you did not state 1903 in your opening, it could be a DVD from 1503. Small details help.

If you are inclined, you could skip to 1909, using the link provided in POST #3.

Do what is in your comfort level. Nothing wrong with 1903.

I find the USB easier.

newtekie1 · Nov 12, 2019

jsfitz54 said:
That would be NO.

View attachment 136276

MediaCreationTool1909.exe

The link to it is literally on the page you took the screenshot from...

jsfitz54 · Nov 12, 2019

newtekie1 said:
MediaCreationTool1909.exe

The link to it is literally on the page you took the screenshot from...

That's not from the PUBLIC link.
This is: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

That's May, which equals SPRING 1903 not Fall 1909.

newtekie1 · Nov 12, 2019

jsfitz54 said:
That's not from the PUBLIC link.
This is: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

That's May, which equals SPRING 1903 not Fall 1909.

Click on the button.

They updated the link to the 1909 tool, but not the words on the page yet.

jsfitz54 · Nov 12, 2019

newtekie1 said:
They updated the link to the 1909 tool, but not the words on the page yet.

Dear Microsoft, stop f'in with the public and please maintain your Web spaces accordingly....

:banghead:

@newtekie1 : Thank you.

@newtekie1 : What made you press the link after you read May?

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Nov 12, 2019

andiey said:
So, installing from DVD onto a NMVe will work, could you confirm that?

Why wouldnt it?

FordGT90Concept · Nov 12, 2019

DVD...I've had trouble getting Windows to install via UEFI/GPT.
USB...defaults to UEFI/GPT and it's much, much faster.

I use USB because...it has no downsides.

If DVD defaults to MBR, installing on NVMe will be difficult. You might have to go into the BIOS and figure out how to UEFI: DVD boot it. If my past experience is anything to go by, your mileage may vary doing that.

I bought a 32 GB San Disk USB3 stick that I use exclusively for Windows 10 installs. Never has a problem and I update it when I know Microsoft released a big update.

lexluthermiester · Nov 12, 2019

andiey said:
So, installing from DVD onto a NMVe will work, could you confirm that?

That one I haven't tried yet. However, it should still work.

potato580+ · Nov 12, 2019

nope, i try use mmc, and it "work" smh

newtekie1 · Nov 12, 2019

jsfitz54 said:
What made you press the link after you read May?

I was at work needed the tool to create a new flash drive, I didn't care if it was 1903(in fact I preferred it), but then noticed that it downloaded 1909. Luckily I had a 1903 tool on my home computer.

andiey · Nov 13, 2019

Can't believe how Asus overlooks this minor procedure in their manual.

I'm installing the M.2 drive. On the Z390-F motherboard it comes with a heatsink, underneath it is a pad. And on the pad there is a plastic cover, it says remove it. Do I remove the whole thing including the pad or just the plastic cover?

lexluthermiester · Nov 13, 2019

andiey said:
Do I remove the whole thing including the pad or just the plastic cover?

You're serious? Just the plastic cover... The pad underneath is heat conductive and will help keep the NVME drive cool.

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Is it a must to install Windows 10 from a flash USB Drive?

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