Is it still worth getting an analog controller if you play on KB+M ?

[cucker tarlson]

resurrecting the thread
what gamepad would you recommend for ace skies 7 ?

 

[kapone32]

resurrecting the thread
what gamepad would you recommend for ace skies 7 ?

I would get a Flight stick for that game like the Thrustmaster TM 1600.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I would get a Flight stick for that game like the Thrustmaster TM 1600.

But the OP asked for a gamepad though...


@cucker tarlson do you have an old wireless xbox controller? It might be worth getting a wireless dongle for your PC for that. I use a friends old wireless xbox 360 controller i borrowed from a friend that works for most things. (ive had it about 5 or 6 years now but shhhh. i dont think he remembers that i have it)

If you dont have one. Ask around. maybe a friend might have one lying around in their loft somewhere. Wireless dongles aint that expensive either.

 

[cucker tarlson]

I want something that would be more universal,for flight simulators and driving games.
no I dont have any controllers

 

[kapone32]

I want something that would be more universal,for flight simulators and driving games.
no I dont have any controllers

Then look for an Xbox 1 or 360 clone from Amazon. I have a Rock Candy Xbox 1 clone that cost me like $25 about 3 years ago.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Then look for an Xbox 1 or 360 clone from Amazon. I have a Rock Candy Xbox 1 clone that cost me like $25 about 3 years ago.

Im in Poland,not in Amazon land

 

[kapone32]

Im in Poland,not in Amazon land

Ok got it. I guess you can't use amazon.co.uk? That site actually has a better selection of OC peripherals than most other Amazon sites. They do ship to Canada where I live though.

 

[cucker tarlson]

yes I can but I end up paying 250pln for xbox wireless while I can get it for 200 pln here

 

[Chomiq]

There's no such thing as Ace Skies 7. There's Ace Combat 7.

Once again, get Xbox one pad. AC 7 is an arcade game, not a flight sim. Xbox one pad works great for things like Forza horizon.

 

[Vayra86]

I'm using a g903 and soon to buy a mk730 kb (using deathstalker now).
Do you still use an analog controller for any games ? does it perform better for any specific type ?

Mostly up to a difficulty aspect, that.

Many console ports are difficulty based on analog sticks wrt responsiveness, and even how the camera responds to certain things, the timing of events, etc. Add mouse/kb, which can be instant in any place on the screen... and the difficulty drops to almost zero sometimes. So I would say those are the game where you'd want an analog controller. I still use my DS3s from time to time. I did actually use it again with Sekiro, because you can just feel everything is tweaked to a controller there. Turning on your heels for example is a big thing in this type of game and just mouselook isn't going to provide the same sort of immersion or flow. And flow is important. You played RUINER. That's another one I believe very much fit for controller.

That is also why beat em ups prefer controllers, the combat flow and muscle memory are just different.

Racers... or any driving really is often better done with analog sticks. And even IF it works half decent with KB, it will still work better with sticks. Far Cry... good example. GTA V... another. With GTA V I had mouse/kb for anything on foot and switched to pad once I stole a car

EDIT: saw your thread revival message just now... I had a smooth time with a much older Ace Combat on PS2 and would definitely recommend PS3/PS4 dualshock for it. It'll work. I'd not go on the specific game but on the size of your hands. If you have typical Euro shovel hands, dualshock may be on the small side and Xbox controller will suit you better. I just got used to dualshock but in reality its really a tad too small for me. Not the most pleasant experience, can't use it too long these days.

But if you are going big on flight sims... how about a HOTAS? Gets you up into the right vibe for Star Citizen right in one go... because I do kinda know you will jump into that at some point. I know I will... I don't know how the support is for AC7.

Also another big one I think is going to be MS' new Flight Simulator. Jaw dropping, gateway drug into simulators really. OMG

 

[candle_86]

Always worth it to have multiple input options, I keep a Logitech dual analog controller, side winder precision 2 joystick, racing wheel and peddels just incase I need them.

Fighting or GTA = controller
Need for speed or similar = wheel and peddels
Flight sim = joystick and peddels
Fps/strat/misc= m/kb

 

[kapone32]

yes I can but I end up paying 250pln for xbox wireless while I can get it for 200 pln here

I would honestly look for a clone.

Always worth it to have multiple input options, I keep a Logitech dual analog controller, side winder precision 2 joystick, racing wheel and peddels just incase I need them.

I totally agree with this. I have the TM1600 for space and flight sims, a Neogeo controller for shumps and arcade games and a Xbox 1 clone for console ports and FPS. I am pretty sure I have a Steam controller sitting around somewhere too.

 

[cucker tarlson]

thinking of xbox one s + charge kit

 

[Chomiq]

200 pln will buy you a controller. You still need bluetooth dongle or microsoft wireless adapter (the new one, which works at 2,4Ghz) for PC. So it's better to pay extra 30 PLN for combo pad+wireless adapter from MS.

 

[cucker tarlson]

200 pln will buy you a controller. You still need bluetooth dongle or microsoft wireless adapter (the new one, which works at 2,4Ghz) for PC. So it's better to pay extra 30 PLN for combo pad+wireless adapter from MS.

I have a bluetooth adapter for my pc

 

[Vayra86]

Big advantage of Xbox is also that the legends for Xbox are generally used in ports, and not the PS legends. Its proper confusing using dualshock.

 

[Chomiq]

For the cost of some no name charging station you can get yourself an eneloop charger with 4 rechargable AA batteries.

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As for DS4 - that thing will barely last you 6-7 hours of gaming, tops. XO lasts MUCH longer and when you ran out you just toss in a second set of eneloops and you're ready to go.

 

[Cheeseball]

If you're still looking for a good gamepad, this one would fit the bill. I prefer it over the generation 3 Xbox One Wireless Controller when I'm playing Fallen Order or Mechwarrior 5.

 

[Vayra86]

If you're still looking for a good gamepad, this one would fit the bill. I prefer it over the generation 3 Xbox One Wireless Controller when I'm playing Fallen Order or Mechwarrior 5.

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WoW! Its like a Nintendo NES and Dualshock got married. Love it!

 

[Cheeseball]

WoW! Its like a Nintendo NES and Dualshock got married. Love it!

It is a throwback BUT the amazing part is that it is really durable. I can seriously attest to this piece of hardware.

 

[cucker tarlson]

If you're still looking for a good gamepad, this one would fit the bill. I prefer it over the generation 3 Xbox One Wireless Controller when I'm playing Fallen Order or Mechwarrior 5.

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xos looks more comfortable

but this is sweet indeed

I don't know how it would do for a game like ace combat tho

god damn you really got me looking at this sn30+

 

[Cheeseball]

xos looks more comfortable

but this is sweet indeed

I don't know how it would do for a game like ace combat tho

Not too sure about (semi-)flight sims. If you can play the game fine with a normal Xbox One/PS4 gamepad, this one is fine.

I also use this 8bitdo controller with Forza Horizon 3 and 4. Works great because I can control the throttle and braking due to the analog (pressure-sensitive) triggers. This is why people on controller can still pull off amazing drifting in racing games.

It also works with the Nintendo Switch and Android/iOS phones, both wired and Bluetooth (4.2).

 

[cucker tarlson]

damn,amazing controller

 

[Cheeseball]

damn,amazing controller

I'm not sure how much it would cost in Poland, but Amazon US shows it at $49.99 (minus 5% with the Amazon promo at the moment). So if you have a distributor of 8bitdo products there, I would suggest checking them out before you purchase.

When connected to a PC (or Android/iOS), you can make it follow the Xbox (Xinput) controller standard. It also has support for DirectInput, for legacy software. The plastic is solid, rivaling the PS4 and Xbox One Wireless Controllers. The battery pack is rechargable through the USB-C port, but you can also replace it with 2xAA batteries. The directional pad (d-pad) is perfect for 2D platformers and fighters.

Hell, I use it over my Switch's Pro Controller. The only disadvantage is that it can't wake the Switch from sleep mode/off state.

 

[cucker tarlson]

I can have it for the same price as xbox one s