Is It The 1080 TI The Best GPU Ever?

[jesdals]

Well for me it was the R9 290 that was my best card. But back in the day my Matrox Millenium card was the best unfortunately I took the advice of my older brother and only bought the 2 mb version so only upgraded due to small memory size but that did become my start with ATI and their Rage Fury - that 32 mb memory was an insane jump

 

[Outback Bronze]

Hmm, The HD 5870 was an underrated king for many years. Nothing came close to it for a Single GPU. It was caning everything with very good power efficiency and a decent price to boot. It was keeping up with dual GPU's.

First DX 11 card and I don't think NVidia toppled it with the power hog GTX 480 that was later its competitor.

It wasn't until 2 years had passed when the HD 7970 & GTX 680's were released was it finally superseded. The HD 6970 2GB had very similar performance to it and the GTX 580 was slightly better.

NVidia needed three card gens to really knock it off its perch. AMD/ATI needed two.

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Voted Not Sure....Maybe

Edit: Honorable mention 8800 GTX

 

[Beginner Macro Device]

The 2080 Ti gets a whopping 38 FPS at 1080p in Alan Wake 2 with RT enabled.

Yeah, let's go ahead and bring the heaviest RT title as the valid "this GPU is dead" argument. Outside AW2 and CP2077, this GPU fares okay in RT. Not great but it's playable.

It was also completely overpriced, a ripoff.

I'm aware of that. About 1.5 grand for a GPU should've come with something more than this, you're arguing with the person who stated the same thing as you.

DLSS was non-existent to a vaseline smear for a year 1/2 to two years after the 2000 series launch.

As expected for a new technology.

If we are talking today, it's really not that important given the 1080 Ti can run FSR and XeSS.

FSR from 2024 is still much worse than DLSS from 2020 and XeSS is devastatingly slow on async compute off GPUs like 1080 Ti. At low resolutions (1440p and especially 1080p), DLSS is the only reasonable upscaling solution. Rarely do we see 4K users still sticking to a 7 years old GPU. And this is the minimum resolution for FSR to be of some validity. So no, it's mega important.

A 16 - 25% performance increase (depending on res) isn't great

Excuse me, what? This is just outright incorrect. 2080 Ti is faster by at least 30 percent in DX12 Ultimate titles and by at least 20 percent in other games, occasionally hitting 50+ percent difference (Cyberpunk 2077, Alan Wake 2).

$ per FPS, 2080 Ti is leagues worse. But it can do things 1080 Ti can't. That's why I don't call it a complete failure.

 

[Keullo-e]

Hella yes it is. The last Nvidia card I had in my main PC.

 

[mama]

This type of question only makes sense for comparing contemporary GPUs. The 1080Ti does not have the feature set of more modern cards and therefore lacks modern amenities and improvements. For its time, maybe it was the best.

 

[adulaamin]

Ahh the 1080 TI FTW 3. Man I wish EVGA were still making cards. I had two of them in SLI. Not worth it I know but I had some extra money and the missus was ok with it. I sold one then thought I'd keep the other but someone offered to buy it for a really good price. I kind of regret selling the second card. I wish I had kept it. It's the best card I've ever owned and for the longest time too but I don't think it's the best GPU ever. I'd say the 8800 GT/GTX.

 

[xorbe]

I wouldn't take these sorts of videos too seriously. The original Titan also had pretty good legs.

 

[Vayra86]

No its not. I think its the last truly sensible GPU in the Geforce line up though. Nvidia went straight into silly land after that and hasnt stopped.

Its pretty striking though to see it classified as a 'goat' after 3 gen of RTX. Nuff said, kind of underlines my take. Every top end card after this has been losing its value much faster. This will soon include the 4090, too.

In 2024, the true game changer for Pascal is mesh shaders. Not RT. Not lack of horsepower or VRAM... Just a dx12 feature every recent card can run nukes it. 7-8 years later.

 

[Calmmo]

A lot of it was circumstance. It was a good GPU on a new node after 2 generations being stuck on 28nm (people forget 900series came out using the same node as 700sereis - kinda reminiscent of what happened with 40series actually - (4090 mostly since nvidia butchered the die sizes on all other dies down the stack) the difference with 40 series was it was mostly due how poor samsungs node was) and also it was a generation that was extended due to extenuating circumstances (the bitcoin mining craze, nvidia were happy to keep selling the same gpus that were becoming cheaper and cheaper to keep producing over time) and then that series was followed up by a generation that pushed hw features which also took up die space leading to reduced raster gains while also jacking up the prices... Lots of words to say that yea while 10 series was good it was made to look better due to a whole lot of other things happening that aided in making it look better than it probably was.

 

[danc]

1080Ti offered a huge jump in VRAM at mainstream prices.

 

[chrcoluk]

Not really. It's just the third tier GP102 product behind the 2016 Titan X Pascal and the 2017 Titan Xp. It was more affordable than those two, and perhaps a little too good value for money. But the 1080 Ti is very much an obsolete graphics card nowadays. It'll run DirectX 11 games great, but... that's about it. It does what it has to do, if you buy even something as simple as an RX 7600 you have a much better graphics card today IMHO.

Also, don't expect driver support for much longer. Nvidia surprisingly hasn't pulled the plug on Maxwell, but I suspect they'll drop both Maxwell and Pascal at once. With them being 10 and 8 years old respectively, their support schedule is very much about to expire.

Well obviously more advanced tech comes out later, I think his view perhaps comes from the massive price drop it got, I brought my 1080 ti for £500 and a free AAA game booted in for good measure. Considering the placement of the 1080 ti on the product stack and what has happened since then that is a very decent product.

It has more VRAM than the 3080 that came 2 generations later as well.

Everything in turing was a joke, ampere was bearable by the RRP of the 3080 and Nvidia FE cards honouring that RRP. 4000 series is a joke again. As a product Nvidia havent matched it since, the product is a combination of price and tech, as an example a good card at £300 is a much better product than a very good card at £3000.

One of the best videos GN ever did was to forewarn people on how bad turing would be and advise the market to buy a 1080ti as they got heavily discounted to make room for turing stock, I followed his advice and never regretted it. Also with it being a flagship it held its value well, and my net cost to go to a 3080 was pretty small.

So best GPU ever? dont know, but I would say best in last 4 generations. I remember the 8800GT being a very good product as well to replace the not so good 8800GTX.

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/qjen12/_/his07za

 

[Onasi]

1080Ti offered a huge jump in VRAM at mainstream prices.

That’s a very weird definition of “mainstream” you have there. 700 bucks is firmly in the “enthusiast” territory, was then, was in the 00-s, is now. Mainstream shoppers are in the 200-400 range.

 

[chrcoluk]

That’s a very weird definition of “mainstream” you have there. 700 bucks is firmly in the “enthusiast” territory, was then, was in the 00-s, is now. Mainstream shoppers are in the 200-400 range.

Its starting price wasnt great but it got a pretty big drop end of gen. Nvidia had massively undersold it and had to clear stock, so pricing went to mainstream levels until they cleared the stock.

 

[#22]

1080 Ti legend is mostly made by comparison with awful (then) 2080 Ti and by people knowing Pascal from benchmarks, not reality of owning it.

2080 Ti's thing is rather obvious as dissappointing generational jump, the same VRAM and for all of it drastic price uplift. Reality was 1080 Ti being a highend card, so pass to pretty graphics and one for potentially longer service which year and half after launch started to lack ray tracing capabilities and help of DLSS (imo FSR looks too bad to be worth using).

Any card being released between big requirements jumps of next-gen-console games and lucky to not get obsoleted by technology like e.g. DirectX will give similarly "legendary" long run. Don't praise the card, but thank the consoles

 

[Onasi]

Its starting price wasnt great but it got a pretty big drop end of gen. Nvidia had massively undersold it and had to clear stock, so pricing went to mainstream levels until they cleared the stock.

That’s region and market dependent, I don’t really take those into account when discussing any pricing since it’s such a YMMV thing. Where I am I don’t think I ever saw the 1080Ti significantly below MSRP anywhere that isn’t second hand market.

 

[londiste]

1080Ti had two things going for it:
1. Nvidia was clearly afraid of Vega and looking at specifications that seems to be a reasonable fear. They rushed the 1080Ti quickly to the market to pre-empt Vega and made it better than the normal 80 > 80Ti jump would have been.
2. The following price increases and clusterfuck with progress, giving it more longevity than usual.

 

[Darthgrey]

Well, it was good, but I think not the best, because for today it would cost more than $1000 if you count inflation. Radeon 7950/7970 were also actual for a long time, some people still use them for gaming. The same for R9 290X, and billions of cheap RX480 8Gb, you can still find them everyehre (RX570, 580 and 590 are basically the same thing). Some may remember 8800GTX (and cheaper 8800GT), you could use it for many many years.

 

[londiste]

So the question is simple Is It The 1080 TI really The Best Card Ever if we put following parameters as the most important:

1)Performance
2)Price
3)Tech Innovation
4)Longevity

What is your opinion is the 1080TI the best GPU ever if not what card do you believe is better then 1080 TI....share with us bellow.....

By those criteria it would probably have to be something based on the venerable G80 and derivatives.

 

[Lewzke]

Pascal architecture was a game changer except GTX1050 and 1050ti the whole series was the best in the Nvidia history, 1080(ti) and 1060 was a banger (perf/price ratio, huge performance step-up from the previous generation, large VRAM of that era, efficiency).

 

[DaemonForce]

The 1080Ti was an amazing enthusiast card with more memory and about double the gaming performance as my RX 580. Aside from the die size being MASSIVE, the terrible memory speed and awful FP64, it's a solid 1080p gaming card that could handle a 1080p144 monitor like my Nixeus without any drama. The only really bad thing about this card other than being extremely long in the tooth is the DirectX 12_1 feature lockout. Meaning it won't be able to handle newer games that force DirectX 12_2. Outside of that, it's a perfectly reasonable card for gaming and streaming. The packaging sucks because it's typically a blower card but there are blocks for it.

It uh.....Might be important to keep the loops separate but I don't use this kind of hardware and have no way to verify that. I would approach it with some caution.

 

[chrcoluk]

That’s region and market dependent, I don’t really take those into account when discussing any pricing since it’s such a YMMV thing. Where I am I don’t think I ever saw the 1080Ti significantly below MSRP anywhere that isn’t second hand market.

Well it was in America, and the UK, but yeah you right it might not have been everywhere. For that reason the 8800GT probably is the better product, as its value was baked into the MSRP and was cheap from day 1.

 

[faye]

It didn't offer any tech innovation, Pascal had been in-market for a year at the point it released. What 1080 Ti did was bring the same performance they asked $1200 for with the Titan X and sell it to everyone else at much more palatable $700. Which was a whole metric ton of performance at the time, no kidding, but then again if money was no object, Titan V came out the same year a full generational leap ahead of that and then some. Some people's enamored view of Pascal as an architecture endured due to the very high prices of Turing, but it was Turing that innovated and brought new things to the table, not Pascal.

The RTX 20 series were the first DX12 Ultimate compatible cards and the first true next-gen GPUs as we know today. The high prices due to die sizes/yield and lack of compatible software at the time made it an unattractive proposal to most people except those who wished to stay at the bleeding edge, for everyone else, the GTX 1080 Ti offered everything they wanted and more, at a discount price. No wonder it got so popular.

I don't have this romanticized view of it, especially since at the time I was an AMD diehard. I was riding with the Vega Frontier Edition at the time (2018-2020 timeframe) and eventually purchased a Radeon VII before I decided to buy the 3090.

I bought my RTX 2080 almost a year after release and it's still incredibly capable at 1080p, and in many titles, 1440p. Compared with the 980Ti SLI setup that came before it, improvement across the board. More power, less heat, much greater longevity, orders of magnitude better compatibility... And I /loved/ 980Ti SLI. Loved it. But there's nothing that comparatively "cheap" Zotac card doesn't do better. It's still in use in our second PC and I've yet to find anything it won't play "well enough" at 1080p with medium to high settings. Most on ultra. Many are 1440p or even 4K.

Is the 7900XTX better? Oh yeah. But it's not... Different. Not the way the 2080 was.

 

[cosminmcm]

Yes, GOAT card!

 

[Onasi]

Well it was in America, and the UK, but yeah you right it might not have been everywhere. For that reason the 8800GT probably is the better product, as its value was baked into the MSRP and was cheap from day 1.

Yeah, I always look at the product value from the standpoint of what it offers right off the bat. That’s one of the reason why this current gen is absolute clownshow. Sure, the 7600 is a pretty gucchi offer for the mid-range market… if we pretend that the second hand market doesn’t exist. Not like it’s hard for it to BE a decent offer considering it’s competing with the 4060 which is probably the most insulting NV SKU in a while. Same reason why the 7800XT/7900GRE are fairly well liked - they aren’t out of this world amazing value, but considering what else is there they might as well be.

With this in mind, I reiterate - the 1080Ti was a great value for money card for the high end, absolutely. It was essentially a Titan for almost half the price. But that’s all it was. The real impactful cards are either gamechangers technologically (and here even Turing beats it, funnily enough) or something that was so good and fairly affordable that it essentially became a go-to option for the majority of the market (your 8800s, 5870s and 1060s of the world). Compared to those, the 1080Ti is just kinda… there?

 

[RTX4070TI]

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