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game-debate is like pinterest in that it completely overwhelms web searches with junk results but contributes nothing of value to the internet itself.

It's just a blight like pinterest and taboola/outbrain that you have to learn to navigate around in your travels across the web. Don't step in the poo and for the love of god, don't stop to play in it!
 

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I have a computer from 2010 and 2012, with gpus from 2014.. still plays games just fine :confused:

Maybe not like on a modern system, but good enough for 1080p. You future proof by buying the best you can afford. You don’t do that with an i5 and 1050ti.
 
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Future proofing in the PC space has never worked, there's only ever "good" investments. CPU's tend to outlast graphics cards though, that's the only constant I've found in 20-30'ish years.
 
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Benchmark Scores I once clocked a Celeron-300A to 564MHz on an Abit BE6 and it scored over 9000.
As for future-proofing, the stuff that lasts longest is usually the price/performance sweet spot any time there's a huge architectural change.

C2Q lived for a decade (it's still kind of usable today) because it was both an architectural leap and at the turning point from single-threaded to multi-threaded applications.
Sandy Bridge was another huge leap and if you have a quad core Sandy chip it's probably still coping just fine today.
1st Gen GCN was amazing and anyone still in possession of a Radeon HD7970 can probably still enjoy 1080p gaming.

I'm guessing here now but I'm willing to be that Zen2 will age well. It has brought big IPC and clockspeed gains, PCIe 4.0, huge cache size increases, faster RAM support and is timed to coincide with developers putting more effort into improving their application performance on AMD - because technological advances that enable new things are happening with AMD and Nvidia, not intel. Each of those things in turn is nothing to write home about, but they've all happened at the same time in one product launch.

I'd also put money on RDNA2. It's the new architecture that will dominate gaming from 2020 to 2025 at least, thanks to Sony and Microsoft's consoles. AMD may not be competing with Nvidia's flagships but you can expect an RDNA2 card to be well-suited to game engines for at least the duration of the next-gen consoles. That's nothing to sniff at!
 

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Lol. Just having "future-proof" and "1080p 60FPS" in the same sentence makes me giggle a bit :D
And i7-990x is defintely not up to the task. Had to part out my Westmere rig, cause even my "golden sample" X5650@4.2 couldn't keep up with some modern titles, and more so - multimedia and some productivity software.

Maybe not like on a modern system, but good enough for 1080p.
That's until you try new hardware. I gave up my bad-ass Westmere HEDT rig in favor of measly i3-6100, cause I wanted a quiet and cool ITX SFF, and to my surprise most games played much better with the exact same GPU, plus I get all benefits of faster I/O (e.g. not capping SATA-III SSD with SATA-II interface, the ability to use NVME boot drive, USB3.0 etc).
General PC performance, even in games, it's not just raw capabilities CPU and GPU, it's much more than that.
 
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When I think of "future proofing" I'm reminded of 2 people who pursued that philosophy.

One of them posted an extremely high end build and said he didn't want to have to touch it for 5 years. The only thing about his build that I remember was that he wanted to use 4 Titan Maxwells in Quad-SLI. This was about 4 years ago. Even then with SLI well supported this was a really bad idea. A couple of years later and Developers started backing away from supporting SLI. He was proposing spending $4,000 on cards to "future proof" his rig for 5 years. Well, look how that turned out. He would have been far better off buying 2 Titan X then and a 2080 Ti when that came out and would have saved $800 on top of it.

Another bought a Titan Z for $3,000 and was angry shortly thereafter when he said that Nvidia wasn't supporting his card as well when the Maxwells came out. He said he expected his card to be well supported for 8 or 9 years due to how much he paid for it. The fact is that by the time Maxwell came out the Keplers had already been optimized about as much as they ever would be.

How many people a couple of years ago even thought that real time ray tracing in gaming would begin to become a thing now?

Trying to build a "future proof" rig is like trying to drive in fog and see what's miles ahead. We can only see a short way ahead with any certainty.
Or driving in fog and crash into something that was suddenly "Just there" .... Or perhaps that Moose that stepped out at the last second - It was foggy and maybe he didn't see you coming.

The term "Future Proof" is beyond a misleading statement.
As long as technology is advancing such a thing is impossible. Build whatever, however you want today and enjoy it.

Even if it's doing well later you'll still come up with a reason/excuse to upgrade it later, we all tend to do that.
 
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Basically, your hardware is “future proof” only as long as it continues to be good enough for YOU.
 
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Never visited that site but it sounds like they are just throwing up some controversial crap click bait material for hits.

Frankly, it wouldn't surprise me if a genius all-knowing "AI" crunched some numbers from their crazy database to write that article... No humans involved.
 
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I'm future proofed. Alread pre-purchased AMD Ryzen Zen 8 - 0.065nm processor UltimateX-9899-XXX edition black with unlimited clocks and cores.

You suckers have on idea how far you're already behind and proofed for past tense referencing only. :toast:
 
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When I think of "future proofing" I'm reminded of 2 people who pursued that philosophy.

One of them posted an extremely high end build and said he didn't want to have to touch it for 5 years. The only thing about his build that I remember was that he wanted to use 4 Titan Maxwells in Quad-SLI. This was about 4 years ago. Even then with SLI well supported this was a really bad idea. A couple of years later and Developers started backing away from supporting SLI. He was proposing spending $4,000 on cards to "future proof" his rig for 5 years. Well, look how that turned out. He would have been far better off buying 2 Titan X then and a 2080 Ti when that came out and would have saved $800 on top of it.

Another bought a Titan Z for $3,000 and was angry shortly thereafter when he said that Nvidia wasn't supporting his card as well when the Maxwells came out. He said he expected his card to be well supported for 8 or 9 years due to how much he paid for it. The fact is that by the time Maxwell came out the Keplers had already been optimized about as much as they ever would be.

How many people a couple of years ago even thought that real time ray tracing in gaming would begin to become a thing now?

Trying to build a "future proof" rig is like trying to drive in fog and see what's miles ahead. We can only see a short way ahead with any certainty.

There is future proof to a sensible degree, and there is nutcase material. Your examples are no. 2 :D

Future proofing in the PC space has never worked, there's only ever "good" investments. CPU's tend to outlast graphics cards though, that's the only constant I've found in 20-30'ish years.

Never future proof on GPU. Agreed. But storage, board, cpu, psu, case? Sure thing. Its the choice between that 256GB SSD or the 1TB instead, for example. Thinking ahead about your usage of available ports and case storage bays; Thinking about bigger GPUs in the future and scaling PSU on that instead... etc. And the best part is, most of those choices can and will turn out to save you money long term.

Basically, your hardware is “future proof” only as long as it continues to be good enough for YOU.

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You guys are silly.

You can't future proof a PC component of any kind.

PC proof is building to not purchase again. Not possible. In some amount of time, you buy a new PC or hardware within.

Think of bullet proof.
Bullet proof glass, will always be bullet proof. You don't have to do anything else to it, it's bullet proofed forever.
 

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Think of bullet proof.
Bullet proof glass, will always be bullet proof. You don't have to do anything else to it, it's bullet proofed forever.
Weeeelll.... technically only until it has been weakened by repeated bullets. But I get what you are seeing.
 
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Weeeelll.... technically only until it has been weakened by repeated bullets. But I get what you are seeing.

Doesn't matter. All of your electronics have a tested amount of hours of possible reliability. Should say it right in the manuals.
For example, my PSU is rated for 100,000 hours. Get more, get lucky, but not a future proof to be seen anywhere in electronics. Or we'd still be using risk processors as CPU for example.
But that thought is crazy right?? Using processors predated to X86 cores? Totally future proofed.

Imagine, you future proofed with that new shiney x2 FX Athlon and a pair of 7600's. So awesome SLI future proofed......

Like thinking your hardware now will be viable 15-20 years from now. Very not likely.
 
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6 cores is going to be enough for another couple of years.
Wow I dodged a bullet there. 6 core - checked :roll::laugh:
But then again for what I use it recently It's enough.
 

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The future is tomorrow lol. I retired my gtx 580 last winter, only because the vram just wasn’t cutting it anymore. There is a difference between bleeding edge, and still playable, especially 1080p 60fps lol. I still dominate nuketown no problem. Don’t get me wrong, I remember back in the day with 6600gt in sli with my 500fps in cod thinking how awesome it was lol. But I don’t have a new monitor so it’s not a big deal to lock it down at 60. GTAV runs great at 60fps with the candy on.
 
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No.... my 9900k/2080ti is already struggling in some games can't wait to upgrade again.
 
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My case is hermetically sealed!!! Take that future!!!!
 

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The only future/sure-proof items that will last or least amount of times you will replace are:
CPU - Spend wisely on CPU to fit your needs and it will last 3-5 years
Ram - 8GB is now deem minimum in gaming but below that might be fine for basic task?
PSU - Buy yourself decent wattage and known brand and this will last 5+years
HDD &SDD - Last until you need bigger storage or until they die
Case - Buy whatever case which fits all your parts and decent airflow and it will last. (Still rocking My Fractal Design define R4 which i've had since 2012/2013?)

GPU - Looking at the market right now most decent GPUs would last 2-3 years..or even longer if you bought a high end GPU.
 
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My case is hermetically sealed!!! Take that future!!!!
I can't believe this is what you're using!
 
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Basically, your hardware is “future proof” only as long as it continues to be good enough for YOU.

Also this.

I seem get away with entry ~mid range cards for 2 and half/3 years till I upgrade to yet another similar range card.
Same with CPUs,used my Phenom II x4 840 for 3 years and then the i 3 4160 until it couldn't handle new games like Far Cry 5,etc and it was struggling at 100%.

Probably my current 1600x will last me till 2022 or so,GPU I'm gonna upgrade to something like a 1660 Super or AMD equivalent if its out by the time I decide to buy.
Thought about a RX 5700 but I droped the idea,I just don't need it and rather spend that saved money on something else.

Not really playing anything too demanding and even if I do 45-50 FPS is completely fine with me,tweaked mid-high settings are also ok.
 
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Basically, your hardware is “future proof” only as long as it continues to be good enough for YOU.

stop with the common sense! Give in to peer pressure and get on the hamster wheel of chasing FPS, ray tracing, more pixels!

No.... my 9900k/2080ti is already struggling in some games can't wait to upgrade again.
...your definition of "struggling" may not match a lot of other people's definition...
 
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