Ket's & Tigger's P45 OC thread

[Ketxxx]

Seems as though EIST and\or C1E is coming into play, automatically throttling the CPU when its not under heavy use. If you dont like this feature (and most dont seem to like it out of who I have spoken to) just go into BIOS and disable both EIST and C1E.

 

[danszczerba]

Seems as though EIST and\or C1E is coming into play, automatically throttling the CPU when its not under heavy use. If you dont like this feature (and most dont seem to like it out of who I have spoken to) just go into BIOS and disable both EIST and C1E.

EIST? C1E? are these shown in bios exactly like this? or are they known under a different name? I am currently using bios 0506(your mbios1004 will be installed when i get my new 1066 ram)

 

[Deleted member 24505]

They should be called that,in cpu options i think.

 

[danszczerba]

man, are you guys fast with the replies-i love this forum

 

[danszczerba]

Seems as though EIST and\or C1E is coming into play, automatically throttling the CPU when its not under heavy use. If you dont like this feature (and most dont seem to like it out of who I have spoken to) just go into BIOS and disable both EIST and C1E.

are you talking about this ASUS SIX ENGINE energy saving function? Is this function useful? or is it just a advertising ploy? if i don't need it, how can i turn it off?

 

[Ketxxx]

EIST and C1E are CPU features, which is why you need to look for the options in the BIOS. The 6 Engine thing IMO is crap, to disable that just uninstall the software for it.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Its in advanced/cpu configuration.

C1E support-disable
Cpu tm function-disable
Intel speedstep-disable


The rest should be ok.

 

[danszczerba]

thanks peeps

 

[Fitseries3]

look at this beast! http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131326

if only it were ddr3.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

any pointers in here to work out why i am getting random bsods?

fsb---------------------------400
FSB Strap to North Bridge:----400
PCI-E Frequency:--------------101
Dram Freq--------------------1066
Dram timing control--------manual
cas latency---------------------5
dram ras to cas delay-----------5
dram ras precharge--------------5
dram ras activate--------------16
ras to ras delay-------------auto
row refresh cycle time-------auto
read to precharge time-------auto
---------------------------------
read to write delay----------auto
write to read delay----------auto
write to read delay(s)-------auto
write to read delay(d)-------auto
read to read delay(s)--------auto
read to read delay(d)--------auto
write to write delay(s)------auto
write to write delay(s)------auto
write to write delay(d)------auto
---------------------------------
write to pre delay-----------auto
read to pre delay------------auto
pre to pre delay-------------auto
all pre to act delay---------auto
--------------------------------
DRAM Static Read Controlisabled
DRAM Read Training:----------Auto
MEM. OC Charger:-------------Auto
AI Clock Twister:------------Auto
AI Transaction Booster:------auto
---------------------------------
CPU Voltage:--------------1.4250V
All CPU GTL Voltage Reference:Auto
CPU PLL Voltage:-------------auto
FSB Termination Voltage:-----1.3v
DRAM Voltage:----------------2.2v
NB Voltage:-----------------1.20v
NB GTL Reference:------------Auto
SBridge Voltage:------------1.10v
PCIE SATA Voltage:-----------auto

Load Line Calibration:---disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum:-----Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum:----Disabled
CPU Clock Skew:--------------auto
NB Clock Skew:---------------auto

Advanced CPU Settings: All Disabled except execute bit disable

My ram is single sided tracers pc8500 and they are on the boards qvl.

 

[Ketxxx]

DRAM static read: Disable or auto
DRAM read training: Disable
MEM OC charger: Enable
Ai clock twister: Try moderate, light or lighter
SB voltage: 1.2v
NB voltage: 1.3\4v
Load line calibration: Enable

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Thanks,i will try them settings.

I had these-
MEM. OC Charger:-------------Auto
AI Clock Twister:------------Auto
AI Transaction Booster:------auto

on their lowest settings,then i put them on auto and ran memtst,it passed 1 full test and i got 1 error on test 4 on the second pass.The ram is a few weeks old,that i got back from an rma.I have not ran it higher than 1066/2.2v since i got it back.It is pc8500 single sided tracers-BL12864AL1065.8FE5

Before i put them settings on auto,i ran mem test and it had loads of errors straight away nearly.

 

[Ketxxx]

Thats the only bad thing with the P5Q boards, their right bastards when it comes to memory. My mBIOS sorts a large proportion of those issues out, but will never be able to fully fix the problems until Asus release a mature BIOS.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Hi there buds

I am switching my tracers for these-http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/partspecs.aspx?IMODULE=BL2KIT12864AA106A

This is the last chance for crucial,if these fuck up then i will buy something else.

Are these any good ketxxx?-http://www.aria.co.uk/SuperSpecials...gCartAdd&productId=26802&context=superSpecial i may buy some of these too for backup.

 

[Ketxxx]

Dont buy Patriot, they do not like the P5Q boards at all. Buying Geil, G.Skill, Corsair or Kingston are the way to go.

 

[Dajackal]

With Ketxxx's modified bios.

At 4ghz i get random bluescreens in windows....

 

[ENIAC]

EIST and C1E are CPU features, which is why you need to look for the options in the BIOS. The 6 Engine thing IMO is crap, to disable that just uninstall the software for it.

I used the EPU-6 Engine app as an instrument. In the turbo mode, under settings, as you know you can slide the % OC up, which basically only increases your FSB (as far as I could tell). With that, I was able to quickly baseline my system to know how far I could push the FSB with stock vCore, etc. I use wPrime between % bumps for a very quick stress test, not perfect but quick. So maybe the EPU-6 Engine app saved me 4 or 5 boots.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

To anyone else with a p5q-XXXX board,i have been reading on XS forum and the p5q-xxx boards seem to overvolt settings which are set on auto,you need to set them 2 notches above auto to stop it.You really should not have any voltage settings on auto with these boards.

Read more here-
http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/...189437&page=68

 

[Gonzoid]

I read the above last night as I was into my 8th hour of p95 testing @ 8x500 with everything set to AUTO. Needless to say, I put a hold on that test. I had a nice baseline going, but of couse it went poof upon manually setting voltages. I just finished 2hrs each of OCCT CPU/RAM/Mix and it was stable, but BSOD's with Hyper PI 32M testing. Could you folks point me toward what to tweak from here?

Ket's m1004 (huge thanks for saving me from having to fight with Asus betas)
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting:
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (the below is what bios set them to)

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 52
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 8
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 5
READ to READ Delay (S): 4
READ to READ Delay (D): 6
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 6

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: 14
READ to PRE Delay: 5
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: lighter
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO (sets PL to 13)


CPU Voltage: 1.38125
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.24
SB Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

Advanced CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled


What should I do with GTL vref/SB v/PCIE SATA v or can those be left on manual? I also disabled Load-Line Calibration after reading the last 10-15 pages of the above thread and am generally leaning toward leaving it that way. Once I get voltages dialed in, I guess the memory tweaking can begin. Would I maybe benefit more moving to 9x multi to possibly extract more from the RAM? 9x450 looks like I'd have 1068/1112 options available where 8x500 looks to leave me stuck 1000 (or does FSB rule all?). I ask as this Mushkin is reported to run nicely 1150-ish with proprer tweaking.

I've only had this rig set up for a few days and am getting the tweaking out of the way now before it becomes my only system. I'd like to ensure stability while extracting as much goodness as possible first. I ask your patience with me on this endeavor. I've OC'd my systems in the past, but since I only get to build one every few years (my current rig is a speedy Socket 754 build ), I get to relearn it each time.

 

[Ketxxx]

With Ketxxx's modified bios.

At 4ghz i get random bluescreens in windows....

My mBIOS fixes things, not creates miracles

 

[Ketxxx]

I read the above last night as I was into my 8th hour of p95 testing @ 8x500 with everything set to AUTO. Needless to say, I put a hold on that test. I had a nice baseline going, but of couse it went poof upon manually setting voltages. I just finished 2hrs each of OCCT CPU/RAM/Mix and it was stable, but BSOD's with Hyper PI 32M testing. Could you folks point me toward what to tweak from here?

Ket's m1004 (huge thanks for saving me from having to fight with Asus betas)
AI Overclock tuner: MANUAL
CPU Ratio Setting:
FSB Strap to North Bridge: AUTO
FSB Frequency: 500
PCI-E Frequency: 101
DRAM Frequency: Auto
DRAM Timing Control: Auto (the below is what bios set them to)

1st Information :

CAS# Latency: 5
DRAM RAS# to CAS# Delay: 5
DRAM RAS# Precharge: 5
DRAM RAS# Activate to Precharge: 18
RAS# to RAS# Delay : 3
Row Refresh Cycle Time: 52
Write Recovery Time: 6
Read to Precharge Time: 3

2nd Information :

READ to WRITE Delay (S/D): 8
Write to Read Delay (S): 3
WRITE to READ Delay (D): 5
READ to READ Delay (S): 4
READ to READ Delay (D): 6
WRITE to WRITE Delay (S): 4
WRITE to WRITE Delay (D): 6

3rd Information :

WRITE to PRE Delay: 14
READ to PRE Delay: 5
PRE to PRE Delay: 1
ALL PRE to ACT Delay: 6
ALL PRE to REF Delay: 6
DRAM Static Read Control: Disabled
DRAM Read Training: AUTO
MEM. OC Charger: lighter
AI Clock Twister: AUTO
AI Transaction Booster: AUTO (sets PL to 13)


CPU Voltage: 1.38125
CPU GTL Voltage Reference: AUTO
CPU PLL Voltage: 1.52
FSB Termination Voltage: 1.22
DRAM Voltage: 2.02
NB Voltage: 1.24
SB Voltage: AUTO
PCIE SATA Voltage: AUTO

Load Line Calibration: Disabled
CPU Spread Spectrum: Disabled
PCIE Spread Spectrum: Disabled
CPU Clock Skew : AUTO
NB Clock Skew : AUTO
CPU Margin Enhancement: Optimized

Advanced CPU Settings
CPU Ratio Setting: 8.0
C1E Suppport: Disabled
Max CPUID Value Limit: Disabled
Intel® Virtualization Tech: Disabled
CPU TM Function: Disabled
Execute Disable Bit: Disabled


What should I do with GTL vref/SB v/PCIE SATA v or can those be left on manual? I also disabled Load-Line Calibration after reading the last 10-15 pages of the above thread and am generally leaning toward leaving it that way. Once I get voltages dialed in, I guess the memory tweaking can begin. Would I maybe benefit more moving to 9x multi to possibly extract more from the RAM? 9x450 looks like I'd have 1068/1112 options available where 8x500 looks to leave me stuck 1000 (or does FSB rule all?). I ask as this Mushkin is reported to run nicely 1150-ish with proprer tweaking.

I've only had this rig set up for a few days and am getting the tweaking out of the way now before it becomes my only system. I'd like to ensure stability while extracting as much goodness as possible first. I ask your patience with me on this endeavor. I've OC'd my systems in the past, but since I only get to build one every few years (my current rig is a speedy Socket 754 build ), I get to relearn it each time.

Leave as much as possible on auto. General findings from a lot of people is that less is more with the P5Q series.

 

[alexp999]

Hey, will you guys give me a hand Ocing my CPU at the weekend? (Dont really have time in the week. )

here is what I'm aiming for:

E6600 @ 3.6Ghz
Mobo FSB: 1600FSB
Ram @ 1:1 , 800Mhz 4-4-4-12 (thats what its rated for anyway)

I know to set Ram voltage to 2.1v, but other than that I have no idea, how to get it stable with good voltages.

i know a fair amount about computers, but pretty much jacksh*t about OCing, lol.

Cheers!

 

[Dajackal]

My mBIOS fixes things, not creates miracles

This says otherwise
42 degrees celcius idle
56 degrees celcius load

 

[Ketxxx]

Says otherwise how? Sorry I dont have telepathic abilities to know what your system was doing before the mBIOS

ED - Nermind just seen your previous post, ok I admit, my mBIOS does seem to create some miracles

 

[Dajackal]

Well before your bios it didn't go higher than 3.6ghz...
My pc wouldnt even boot if i was going any higher than the 3,6ghz, sometimes i had to use the CPR function to revive it..