Left 4 Dead

[Mussels]

death toll and dead air being Vs mode is great, but we still need *new* maps

 

[ShadowFold]

Wait so they aren't new campaigns? Just adaptations for VS mode? LAME.

 

[oli_ramsay]

death toll and dead air being Vs mode is great, but we still need *new* maps

Agreed, I think that should of been their main priority, the 4 campaigns are boring now.

 

[Mussels]

well at least with the SSDK we'll be getting third party maps.

 

[ChromeDome]

well, here is a little more...

But there's more if you're a PC gamer: "The first Left 4 Dead release for the Source Software Development Kit (Source SDK) will allow the creation of custom Left 4 Dead campaigns that will be discoverable via L4D's matchmaking system." The SDK update is also due this spring and will be free of charge to all owners of the full PC game.

so if you play on PC that is good news. and its my understanding the "Survival" mode DLC will add a fun new dynamic to the game. a somewhat whole other way to play multiplayer, as i understand

would be nice for Valve to get us some new official maps this year, however. although the 3rd party stuff looks promising, too

 

[Super XP]

Interesting? I wonder what else they can offer in MP?

They should have at least released more NEW campaigns. What is Valve thinking???

 

[Mussels]

assuming it uses the original maps, it could well be like what happened to me when a bug broke our MP coop game.

What happened, was swarms never stopped spawning. kill one and the next starts, with boss infected never slowing down. we had over 3,000 kills in the first level alone

 

[Teh Muffin Man]

I've heard they are releasing new maps and maybe new weapons. I've heard that from one or two people..Anyone got some proof to back that up? I think it would be awesome with some new weapons.

 

[ShadowFold]

I've heard they are releasing new maps and maybe new weapons. I've heard that from one or two people..Anyone got some proof to back that up? I think it would be awesome with some new weapons.

Valve hasn't said anything so it's BS for now.

 

[AphexDreamer]

Hey Left 4 Dead DLC is Free for both 360 and PC! Sweet!

Did no one read my post??? I posted this a while back? Ahhhh oh well.

 

[Super XP]

Oh, just to let you all know I noticed that using Melee attack in single player Expert Mode is completely useless if you are being swarmed by Zombies. Every time you hit a zombie with a melee attack you lose 5 points or so.

This is what happens.
It’s timed, lets just say you are in the process of a melee attack on 1 or 2 zombies, a 3rd or 4th or more zombie(s) will wait until your body is in full melee motion then it will attack you. So by the time you return to your melee starting position you’ve already lost more than half of your points unless your already stupid AI buddies help you out.

It seems the Zombies are somewhat intelligent where as your AI companions are stoned out of there head. But again, I think the game cheats on you in Expert Mode and requires bug fixes.

 

[AphexDreamer]

Expert ain't that bad... Only time it gets tough is with the tanks and if you get unlucky and a witch is directly in your path or your playing with a bunch of retarded ppl.

 

[Super XP]

Expert ain't that bad... Only time it gets tough is with the tanks and if you get unlucky and a witch is directly in your path or your playing with a bunch of retarded ppl.

I am talking about Single Player action so the only retarded ppl would be the AI assisting me. Expert is great, I like the challenge.
Usually one of the AI's attacks the witch if she is in our way. The TANK is a lot harder on Expert vs. Normal/Advance. He actually cheats. When he picks something up to throw at you where ever you move the, that object which he throws at you sort of follows you in the air. I've never seen this in Advance or Normal modes. I assume just more bug fixing needs to be done.

 

[AphexDreamer]

I am talking about Single Player action so the only retarded ppl would be the AI assisting me. Expert is great, I like the challenge.
Usually one of the AI's attacks the witch if she is in our way. The TANK is a lot harder on Expert vs. Normal/Advance. He actually cheats. When he picks something up to throw at you where ever you move the, that object which he throws at you sort of follows you in the air. I've never seen this in Advance or Normal modes. I assume just more bug fixing needs to be done.

Yeah I know, his rock will actually curve in mid air. Some BS, but I actually like the challenge. They should have an Expert mode that Cuts the BS and then one above it which keeps it the way it is. That would make everybody happy.

 

[Super XP]

Yeah I know, his rock will actually curve in mid air. Some BS, but I actually like the challenge. They should have an Expert mode that Cuts the BS and then one above it which keeps it the way it is. That would make everybody happy.

100% Agreed.
I also don't mind the massive swarm of zombies that Expert Mode seems to always have, I say bring them all on and I’ll be waiting with my fully automatic black shiny shotgun with a smile.

 

[Super XP]

Oh, I also notice on Expert Mode the little buggers always seem to appear right behind you as your running backwards fighting off the TANK. The problem is if you don’t notice this in time, you lose most of your life which makes you move slower just in time for the TANK to take off your head. Just more Valve BS IMO.

 

[Chryonn]

i want an Insane difficulty mode. as for Valve not releasing campaigns, i say give them time. it takes awhile to make these things expecially to Valve's standards, sure it's easy to knock out a quick campaign, but you have to think about the littlest details to make it more immersive. i also think they won't be releasing just one campaign, but at least two or three, so it'll probably be in the summer. i know four campaigns is a little short, but i'm not tiring of them yet. the replay value comes from finding tricks/shortcuts in the maps and of course playing with various people who have differing style of play and lastly for the completion of those achievements.

 

[ASRockIQ]

when the Third Party Maps are completed and ready for DL where would we put them or how would we install them?

 

[Super XP]

when the Third Party Maps are completed and ready for DL where would we put them or how would we install them?

You will need to unzip them in your L4D Stream MAP folder from what I've read. Maybe somebody here can give detailed info about this. While playing any map level, you have to go into the games Command Console ~ and type the maps name file or something for it to work.

 

[Mussels]

You will need to unzip them in your L4D Stream MAP folder from what I've read. Maybe somebody here can give detailed info about this. While playing any map level, you have to go into the games Command Console ~ and type the maps name file or something for it to work.

yes and no.

In the release about the SSDK, they mentioned that the game browser now shows custom content, and that they can auto download.

So either you manually download and add the maps, OR you just join a server running it, and auto download it.

 

[ASRockIQ]

ao similar to CSS

 

[Mussels]

ao similar to CSS

L4D uses an updated version of CSS's engine, so yes. it will behave exactly the same, after we get this update.

 

[Super XP]

I am trying to beat the last level of the first campaign on Expert Mode and the darn AI just suck so bad. They keep dying on me. I throw a Molatol bottle at the TANK from far away to hit him and 1 or 2 of the AI run right into the fire to attack the TANK. WTF?

ALSO, Every time you throw a pipe bomb the AI freezes until the pipe explodes, then they continue to fight. So by that time they've already lost more than half of there life, so they attempt to heal themselves right away even though more Zombies are coming to attack. Then they get knocked down. WTF? This can't be Valve's doing, it must be a bug among many more bugs I've noticed with Expert Mode.

Any thoughts? Should we notify Valve about this nonesense

 

[DaedalusHelios]

I am trying to beat the last level of the first campaign on Expert Mode and the darn AI just suck so bad. They keep dying on me. I throw a Molatol bottle at the TANK from far away to hit him and 1 or 2 of the AI run right into the fire to attack the TANK. WTF?

ALSO, Every time you throw a pipe bomb the AI freezes until the pipe explodes, then they continue to fight. So by that time they've already lost more than half of there life, so they attempt to heal themselves right away even though more Zombies are coming to attack. Then they get knocked down. WTF? This can't be Valve's doing, it must be a bug among many more bugs I've noticed with Expert Mode.

Any thoughts? Should we notify Valve about this nonesense

Oh I have seen some weird stuff too. Its just gimpy AI programming. Its more than a few years behind but thats just part of the game really.

 

[Super XP]

I notified Steam and Valve about the problem.