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[GoldenX]

Kubuntu on the notebook and Ubuntu on the desktop as dual boot.
I can get better WiFi and GPU performance on the notebook than on Windows, for a slightly inferior battery life.
I used to be an Arch user, but now I'm tired of changing default config files with usually awful defaults.
I should give Thumbleweed a test.

 

[cornemuse]

After Ubuntu 11(?) or so, I have not found any with a gui I like. I am using Mint Mate for occasional browsing, but dont especially like it. Is there any version/brand/flavor that is close to XP? (yeah yeah, but I'm 72 & stuck in my ways!!)

-c-

 

[GoldenX]

After Ubuntu 11(?) or so, I have not found any with a gui I like. I am using Mint Mate for occasional browsing, but dont especially like it. Is there any version/brand/flavor that is close to XP? (yeah yeah, but I'm 72 & stuck in my ways!!)

-c-

Current KDE/Plasma looks like Windows 7/10, Cinnamon, XFCE and Mate may be closer to XP. LXDE is basically Windows 2000.

 

[Arjai]

I haven't really looked, lately, at what each of my Crunchers is currently running. However, I know I have Mint and Kubuntu and Lubuntu and Win10. My laptop, I am writing on, is 8.1 (it is also a cruncher).

Next month, sometime, I am going to compare the different OS's for point's generated. So, far, Mint is in the lead.

 

[Liquid Cool]

I'm using Ubuntu 19.04. I'd usually stick to the LTS version, but the desktop has improved immensely in 19.04, everything is now pretty darn snappy....and smooth. I'll probably be sticking to Ubuntu for the foreseeable future because I still play quite a few games and I'm looking for as much compatibility(and testing) as possible.

Now with that said...my favorite distribution is actually straight Debian and that is what I would run on any secondary pc's or laptops if I had them. I don't really care which DE is on there. I like them all really....albeit gnome would be at the bottom of the list...yet I use it daily.

This morning I updated my BleachBit to 2.2, only to find out that now it supports Waterfox. Made me a happy camper....

BleachBit

Best,

LC

@cornemuse...you could give Zorin OS a try. Although...if it was me...I'd definitely go for MX Linux, the reason why is because of stability. Plus, it has the XFCE desktop and you can easily alter it to appear pretty close to Windows 7. MX Linux...excellent stable distribution. Period. End.

 

[Arjai]

Best,

LC

@cornemuse ...you could give Zorin OS a try.

@cornemuse
fixed that for you.

 

[Deleted member 158293]

Ubuntu here!

 

[Liquid Cool]

Since we're on this topic. I could use a little help myself. I've been trying to find a distribution that runs good on this machine here.

HP ELITE x2 1012 G1

It has a weird 1920x1280 resolution and touch screen...and support for higher resolution/scaling and touch doesn't seem to be a strong suit when it comes to linux distros. So...if you know of a distro, or hear of a distro that might run well on this device...have mercy and shoot me a pm to let me know. I've been trying to find something for awhile and I've had no luck.

I absolutely love this machine...I'd sure like to get linux running on it!

,

Liquid Cool

 

[notb]

I used to be an Arch user, but now I'm tired of changing default config files with usually awful defaults.

Arch is *awful* for everyday use. There's way too much tinkering, way too many compatibility issues. It constantly gets in the way of what you're actually trying to achieve. Well... unless what you're trying to achieve is advanced Linux admin skills.

That said, Manjaro is IMO the best Linux available for casual users - assuming it provides all the apps they need (there's no way to beat Ubuntu and RH family in that).
It's fast, it's light on resources, it's easy to maintain.
It's one of the best distros I've seen for running on VMs - it works perfectly with Virtualbox and is so fast you hardly notice it's not the host (even running on 1 core).

I haven't really looked, lately, at what each of my Crunchers is currently running. However, I know I have Mint and Kubuntu and Lubuntu and Win10. My laptop, I am writing on, is 8.1 (it is also a cruncher).

Next month, sometime, I am going to compare the different OS's for point's generated. So, far, Mint is in the lead.

If you're really concerned about performance, why use a big distro like the ones you've mentioned?
Move to a minimal, terminal-only setup. This could give you extra 2-3% easily, so it could have a bigger impact than moving between heavy distros.
Check if your clients can run on Red Hat family. Basic CentOS setup is the best compromise between minimalism and stability.

 

[Aquinus]

I'm still using Ubuntu and I'm still happy with it. I now get confused when I when I try to use a Windows 10 machine because I haven't had a Windows installation for at least 3 years.

 

[spectatorx]

Latest stable ubuntu budgie here, always since last few years. I like its desktop environment which is simple and highly configurable. Also people running project are nice and quickly respond on sort of livechat: gitter.

Some compare it to lightweight distros like lubuntu or xubuntu. Definitely worth to give it a try.

I'm using linux overall for lightweight tasks as webbrowsing, watching movies and for semi-pro web programming.

 

[remixedcat]

Using Mint Linux on 3 laptops and peppermint on my daktek plaidmate.

 

[Jetster]

Just loaded Mint on a C2Q and really enjoying it.

 

[remixedcat]

Linux is ok so far, one dripe tho the media players suck had to use wine to get media jukebox on it since I said to hell with it after trying 20+ players. most of them crash on my library

 

[HuggyB]

I like granular control and the ability to customize to my specific hardware/software environment - Gentoo

 

[Mindweaver]

I use Ubuntu daily. I did install Mint a few weeks ago to play around. I have puppy on a few older boxes.

 

[Deleted member 158293]

Branching out to different flavours of Debian/Armbian.

 

[FinneousPJ]

So I have Manjaro on my main system. I just installed Pop!_OS on a secondary system. In addition, I run raspbian (debian) on my RPis. My favourite is definitely Manjaro.

 

[HuggyB]

IMHO every Linux user that wants a better understanding of Linux as a whole should do an Arch or Gentoo build at least once. It really forces you to understand things in Linux at a level that most other flavors do not. You'll walk away with a better understanding of, for example, how USE FLAGS effect performance based on the hardware that you're building against as apposed to the more "generic for use on most PCs" strategy that most distros employ. The kernel that you'll build is tailored to your hardware specifications rather than, again, a more "one size fits all" kernel. There is much less bloat (to almost none at all depending on how in-depth you want to get w/optimization and kernel configuration). You install what you want/need rather than what the distro wants/thinks you need.

I'm definitely NOT saying that either of those are for everyone because they are not what anyone would consider simple to maintain. Everything is compiled, so package builds can be slower and more resource intensive, though not always You have to keep up with updates to prevent becoming so outdated that upgrading becomes near impossible. However, portage is the best (one of?) package manager out there and many other distros have adopted it's underlining source as their PM (MacOS comes to mind).

Let me repeat, these are not distros for everyone. I'm more saying that for someone that spends most of their time in Linux; building an Arch or Gentoo system at least once will enhance their overall knowledge of Linux OS's.

Also, the Gentoo community is great. #gentoo on freenode IRC.

 

[FinneousPJ]

IMHO every Linux user should do an Arch or Gentoo build at least once. It really forces you to understand things in Linux at a level that most other flavors do not. You'll walk away with a better understanding of, for example, how USE FLAGS effect performance based on the hardware that you're building against as apposed to the more "generic for use on most PCs" strategy that most distros employ. The kernel that you'll build is tailored to your hardware specifications rather than, again, a more "one size fits all" kernel. There is much less bloat (to almost none at all depending on how in-depth you want to get w/optimization and kernel configuration). You install what you want/need rather than what the distro wants/thinks you need.

I'm definitely NOT saying that either of those are for everyone because they are not what anyone would consider simple to maintain. Everything is compiled, so package builds can be slower and more resource intensive, though not always You have to keep up with updates to prevent becoming so outdated that upgrading becomes near impossible. However, portage is the best (one of?) package manager out there and many other distros have adopted it's underlining source as their PM (MacOS comes to mind).

Let me repeat, these are not distros for everyone. I'm more saying that for someone that spends most of their time in Linux; building an Arch or Gentoo system at least once will enhance their overall knowledge of Linux OS's.

Also, the Gentoo community is great. #gentoo on freenode IRC.

Strongly disagree about "every linux user". Like you say, it's only for those who want really in depth knowledge. That's certainly not every user.

 

[HuggyB]

Strongly disagree about "every linux user". Like you say, it's only for those who want really in depth knowledge. That's certainly not every user.

Agreed. I should have qualified at the beginning as I did at the end of the post. Those Linux users that spend most of their computer use time in Linux should. But, you're correct. Not the casual user. Edited the OP to reflect that.

I did my best to not sound like "if you don't use xyz then you're not a real Linux user" and point out that it is not for everyone and that it does have downsides.

 

[Aquinus]

IMHO every Linux user that wants a better understanding of Linux as a whole should do an Arch or Gentoo build at least once. It really forces you to understand things in Linux at a level that most other flavors do not. You'll walk away with a better understanding of, for example, how USE FLAGS effect performance based on the hardware that you're building against as apposed to the more "generic for use on most PCs" strategy that most distros employ. The kernel that you'll build is tailored to your hardware specifications rather than, again, a more "one size fits all" kernel. There is much less bloat (to almost none at all depending on how in-depth you want to get w/optimization and kernel configuration). You install what you want/need rather than what the distro wants/thinks you need.

I'm definitely NOT saying that either of those are for everyone because they are not what anyone would consider simple to maintain. Everything is compiled, so package builds can be slower and more resource intensive, though not always You have to keep up with updates to prevent becoming so outdated that upgrading becomes near impossible. However, portage is the best (one of?) package manager out there and many other distros have adopted it's underlining source as their PM (MacOS comes to mind).

Let me repeat, these are not distros for everyone. I'm more saying that for someone that spends most of their time in Linux; building an Arch or Gentoo system at least once will enhance their overall knowledge of Linux OS's.

Also, the Gentoo community is great. #gentoo on freenode IRC.

Not even just Gentoo with an installer, but manually doing a stage 3 install. If you really want to get into the weeds, that's the way to do it. I just use Ubuntu these days because i don't have the time to fiddle around with my OS, particularly if I'm using it for work, in which case time is money. The reality is that Gentoo really isn't significantly faster than a distro like Ubuntu or Debian, so it's really for the experience, not tangible benefit.

Strongly disagree about "every linux user". Like you say, it's only for those who want really in depth knowledge. That's certainly not every user.

I would agree that this isn't for every user. It's however, a good idea for every user who wants to understand how Linux works. Doing it once, even just in a VM, is a worthwhile exercise.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Didn't see any club, thought I would start one. If I'm wrong just point the way

Linux Club
What your favorite Distro, Program, bench test or game
Just wanted to learn more, never really seam to have time.
Do you run a server? RAID? ​

Traditional distro fav is Linux Mint, currently the XFCE variety. Non-traditional distro, AndroidX86.

 

[HuggyB]

Not even just Gentoo with an installer, but manually doing a stage 3 install. If you really want to get into the weeds, that's the way to do it. I just use Ubuntu these days because i don't have the time to fiddle around with my OS, particularly if I'm using it for work, in which case time is money. The reality is that Gentoo really isn't significantly faster than a distro like Ubuntu or Debian, so it's really for the experience, not tangible benefit.

I would agree that this isn't for every user. It's however, a good idea for every user who wants to understand how Linux works. Doing it once, even just in a VM, is a worthwhile exercise.

Yea, I should have said Stage 3 tarball install. In my head there isn't any other install, haha.

 

[phill]

Guys just wondering if someone might be able to push me in the right direction...

I've been having some issues with my SR2 with Mint 18.3, it seems to be loosing connection every so often and I'm not sure why.. It can access my home network, get out online but reports back it can't connect and as a cruncher (I don't run it 24/7, the power bill would kill me!!) I've had issues returning work units..

Tried different cables, network ports (considering a network card to rule that out) but is there anything else I could try? It also feels sooo sluggish at times with a fair delay between mouse click and it doing something... I just wondered if anyone had had anything before like it or not? Be great to hear back from someone