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Maps, science, data & statistics tracking of COVID-19

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EarthDog said:
We've got another map for the US... vaccinations.. :)

coronavirus.jhu.edu

Vaccines - Johns Hopkins Coronavirus Resource Center

With dozens of COVID-19 vaccines now in clinical trials, it is important to understand the accelerated timelines for development, the different types of vaccines available, and the facts related to vaccine safety and efficacy. Additionally, as vaccines are approved, we will track data on...
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We hit the half a million mark yesterday, apparently next week it is ramping up considerably.

Edit: I can also report that my 88 year old mother in law had her first jab last Thursday, apart for a slightly sore upper arm for 24 hours she reports no side effects ….. ohhhhh well lets hope her 2nd jab does better! :)
 
Not a single locally transmitted case since April here...
A fair few imported ones though.
 
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Tatty_One said:
We hit the half a million mark yesterday, apparently next week it is ramping up considerably.

Edit: I can also report that my 88 year old mother in law had her first jab last Thursday, apart for a slightly sore upper arm for 24 hours she reports no side effects ….. ohhhhh well lets hope her 2nd jab does better! :)
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The issue with "sore arms" is that tensing up during the injection causes the soreness. But people tense up because you got sore the last time you got jabbed... so its basically a self-fulfilling prophesy.

I personally just look away entirely: I try to get the nurse to jab me at an unexpected time without warning, so that I don't have time to tense up. That seems to do the trick for me personally.
 
dragontamer5788 said:
The issue with "sore arms" is that tensing up during the injection causes the soreness. But people tense up because you got sore the last time you got jabbed... so its basically a self-fulfilling prophesy.

I personally just look away entirely: I try to get the nurse to jab me at an unexpected time without warning, so that I don't have time to tense up. That seems to do the trick for me personally.
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That's usually true for me lol, however one of my best friends is a nurse, and understands the basics heheh. She got hers over the weekend, and had a sore arm for a bit over a day, otherwise doing well so far. So, while for some people, it's a 'tensing' thing, I'm betting this one just makes your arm sore, period :)
 
dragontamer5788 said:
The issue with "sore arms" is that tensing up during the injection causes the soreness. But people tense up because you got sore the last time you got jabbed... so its basically a self-fulfilling prophesy.

I personally just look away entirely: I try to get the nurse to jab me at an unexpected time without warning, so that I don't have time to tense up. That seems to do the trick for me personally.
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I like to watch them doing it and always have ever since I can remember, I don't tense up probably just because I have had so many jabs and muscle injections are so much easier than finding a vein, there can be no surprise if you watch :)
 
Ahhzz said:
Still, they've been rocking the pandemic.
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To rock or to ride the waves... lol

Seems like we love surfing in Europe.
 
Vayra86 said:
To rock or to ride the waves... lol

Seems like we love surfing in Europe.
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lol In all seriousness, they have been doing what needed to be done, and they've made a serious dent in what could have been a hub for super-spreaders...
 
EarthDog said:
Can't say I believe this...ill leave it at that. :)
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Well, I mentioned there had been no new local cases since April and now this... :(
 
EarthDog said:
Right. I don't buy that they haven't had cases since April until now.

...but you are an island...so who knows.
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There hasn't been any local spread. Keep in mind that Taiwan got an early heads up in January, which they tried to share, but no-one listened.
Chinese citizens were banned from entry in February and there have been quarantine measurements in place since January.
Keep in mind that Taiwan was quite badly hit by SARS and they had the equipment in storage, so it wasn't hard to start screening people pretty much straight away.
So no, there has been no local spread since April, although there has been some 700 imported cases, so it's not like there have been zero cases.
www.worldometers.info

Taiwan COVID - Coronavirus Statistics - Worldometer

Taiwan Coronavirus update with statistics and graphs: total and new cases, deaths per day, mortality and recovery rates, current active cases, recoveries, trends and timeline.
www.worldometers.info www.worldometers.info
 
EarthDog said:
Right. I don't buy that they haven't had cases since April until now.

...but you are an island...so who knows.
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They also did more, and more earlier, than any other country in the world, and they don't have a healthcare system that restricts people's access to support. Showing symptoms? Go to the hospital and get tested. Covered. Positive? Get treated, including hospital stays, Covered. Positive, but can go home? Stay quarantined under penalty of a huge fine. They are more used to governmental interference in their daily lives, so this one wouldn't fly in the states, but worked well over there, and they're also very used to wearing masks to protect others if they're sick.. The Asian community in Japan, China, Taiwan, etc are very concerned with "face". They would be mortified to find out they'd not worn a mask and gotten someone else sick, unlike in the states where apparently people are expected to only look out for themselves, not their fellow humans.
 
Well aware of what they did and when. It's just unbelieveable is all. That 700 number is better than '0'. ;)
 
Ahhzz said:
They also did more, and more earlier, than any other country in the world, and they don't have a healthcare system that restricts people's access to support. Showing symptoms? Go to the hospital and get tested. Covered. Positive? Get treated, including hospital stays, Covered. Positive, but can go home? Stay quarantined under penalty of a huge fine. They are more used to governmental interference in their daily lives, so this one wouldn't fly in the states, but worked well over there, and they're also very used to wearing masks to protect others if they're sick.. The Asian community in Japan, China, Taiwan, etc are very concerned with "face". They would be mortified to find out they'd not worn a mask and gotten someone else sick, unlike in the states where apparently people are expected to only look out for themselves, not their fellow humans.
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Uhm, no, the government doesn't interfere with peoples lives here. That was a very long time ago and Taiwan is no different from most western countries when it comes to government involvement in daily life.
What people are used to, is wearing masks when they're sick, so it was not a big ask to make them wear masks when out in public.
People also don't question health care advice from the government in the same way as they do in the US for example.
 
EarthDog said:
Well aware of what they did and when. It's just unbelieveable is all. That 700 number is better than '0'. ;)
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Unlike Tanzania and China, Taiwan is counting all cases. Never said there was zero cases, simply no local transmission since April, until now.
 
TheLostSwede said:
Unlike Tanzania and China, Taiwan is counting all cases. Never said there was zero cases, simply no local transmission since April, until now.
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Yep.. I needed to read with a bit more comprehension is all, lol.

But surely it's understandable that there is a question on several countries over there and its reporting. This doesn't just go to zero unless you're a tiny (tinier) island nation that locked all the gates (along with other measures and the population buy in on such measures.. :)
 
EarthDog said:
Yep.. I needed to read with a bit more comprehension is all, lol.

But surely it's understandable that there is a question on several countries over there and its reporting. This doesn't just go to zero unless you're a tiny (tinier) island nation that locked all the gates (along with other measures and the population buy in on such measures.. :)
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Well, no, but it goes to zero when everyone follows the rules. When I came back in July after having been stuck in Sweden since February, I had to spend two weeks in quarantine and had daily calls or text messages from the government to check that I hadn't gotten sick. The text messages continued a week after the quarantine.
The government is super paranoid about it here and they track your phone. I went to the toilet and the signal cut out, as soon as my phone had a cellular signal again, I got a call from the local police, as they thought I'd breached quarantine. There are stiff fines for breaching quarantine of up to NT$1 million.
Not everyone followed the rules and after a few fat fines, people weren't so interested in trying to breach the quarantine.
 
TheLostSwede said:
Well, no, but it goes to zero when everyone follows the rules. When I came back in July after having been stuck in Sweden since February, I had to spend two weeks in quarantine and had daily calls or text messages from the government to check that I hadn't gotten sick. The text messages continued a week after the quarantine.
The government is super paranoid about it here and they track your phone. I went to the toilet and the signal cut out, as soon as my phone had a cellular signal again, I got a call from the local police, as they thought I'd breached quarantine. There are stiff fines for breaching quarantine of up to NT$1 million.
Not everyone followed the rules and after a few fat fines, people weren't so interested in trying to breach the quarantine.
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Not to mention how in Taiwan people doing something stupid is likely to get filmed and uploaded to youtube. A lot of journalists seek out materials from YT. Then everyone can see from local news who is the asshole putting other people's lives at risk.
 
TheLostSwede said:
Uhm, no, the government doesn't interfere with peoples lives here. That was a very long time ago and Taiwan is no different from most western countries when it comes to government involvement in daily life.
What people are used to, is wearing masks when they're sick, so it was not a big ask to make them wear masks when out in public.
People also don't question health care advice from the government in the same way as they do in the US for example.
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I slightly disagree. If I understood/remember correctly, people that were supposed to be self-quarantined were tracked via their phones by the government, which is something that the common public, at least in the states, really wouldn't tolerate. Google/Facebook/Apple, yes: government, no :)
 
Ahhzz said:
I slightly disagree. If I understood/remember correctly, people that were supposed to be self-quarantined were tracked via their phones by the government, which is something that the common public, at least in the states, really wouldn't tolerate. Google/Facebook/Apple, yes: government, no :)
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Well, if you want to enter Taiwan, you have to provide a phone number, so it's voluntary. If you don't want to, then you don't enter Taiwan.
 
TheLostSwede said:
I went to the toilet and the signal cut out, as soon as my phone had a cellular signal again, I got a call from the local police, as they thought I'd breached quarantine. There are stiff fines for breaching quarantine of up to NT$1 million.
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Funny as that is, it doesn't really jive with the earlier statement that in Taiwan Gov't there doesn't interfere in people's lives :)
 
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