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The only thing I can say, is grab a newer case... something nice and big... To bad you couldn't of grabbed the Rockfish when it was $40 at Best Buy man... But, i really don't see putting a res out side the case... could easily bump into it and break it....
 

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The only thing I can say, is grab a newer case... something nice and big... To bad you couldn't of grabbed the Rockfish when it was $40 at Best Buy man... But, i really don't see putting a res out side the case... could easily bump into it and break it....
exactly, Im thinking of getting the 1200 soon, but I just bought the gigabyte case about 4 months ago. So its a tough sell right now. But I need a new case for more HD's anyways. I have filled my case now, and Im using drive bay adapters just to hold my HD's.

Im also thinking of just saving up and getting the Lian LI PC2100 case, I like the fact it has room for 12 HD's, and much more stuff too! I wish something new would come out that is just monsterous like that.
 
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Asb, I'd save up for a Lian LI case... I remember when Erocker was looking into buying one.. I think it was one of his best buys. But, I really do think its a great case to grab. One that you can keep for a long time to come... The cheap-o's are good, and you can mod them to look pretty sweet, but not a real good holding on your things... Like you have said, you got to many hdd's... Lian LI would be a awesome choice for ya.
 

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get an old server case and mod the heck out of it :D
 

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get an old server case and mod the heck out of it :D
that would be fun :), any ideas on where I could get my hands on an old server case?
 

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go to a local resale shop you would be surprised how many have them or craigslist or something
 
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Looks like we may see a new wb in our futures. I've never seen a design like this before.
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Sidewinder is now selling aftermarket EK "TOP" for your D5 pump. There is no information if it improves head/flow rates.
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Looks like we may see a new wb in our futures. I've never seen a design like this before.
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Sidewinder is now selling aftermarket EK "TOP" for your D5 pump. There is no information if it improves head/flow rates.
Source
Ive been trying to find more info on the "top" of the D5, and I cannot find any info on it anywhere! Im still looking, but if someone knows of some stats on it, please post!
 

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I prefer the DDC pumps and that EK top looks pretty interesting. I have been using the Petras version for quite a while (Delrin is a superior material)

As to if the Koolance top helps the D5 pump I have no clue. I know the aftermarket tops do help the DDC though.(they eliminate the sharp 90deg bend of the intake)

I hooked a D5 pump to a bucket and also a DDC and the DDC just kicked the D5s butt in pressure and volume so I have been using them ever since.
 

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I prefer the DDC pumps and that EK top looks pretty interesting. I have been using the Petras version for quite a while (Delrin is a superior material)

As to if the Koolance top helps the D5 pump I have no clue. I know the aftermarket tops do help the DDC though.(they eliminate the sharp 90deg bend of the intake)

I hooked a D5 pump to a bucket and also a DDC and the DDC just kicked the D5s butt in pressure and volume so I have been using them ever since.
If Im not mistaken the DDC and the MCP355 are the same pump, are they not???

I use a petra's top on my mcp right now and the pressure/flow rate is good, but I would like to increase them, hopefully to drop a few more degrees.

I sold one of my vid cards, so it will only be a apogee GT, and 1 EK full cover 3870 block, and my temps are still WAY to high for my liking. I have the mcp355 with the petra top, 1 320 rad, and 1 220 rad. The 320 has 110CFM fans on it too, the high CFM honestly does nothing too, i run them around 30% (instead of 100%) and the temps will rise about 2 C at the most.

Im replacing my bay rez with a swiftech rez, and prob gonna add that second pump and hopefully that should get my temps back down.

Example of temps
Ambient -> 75 F
CPU -> 38 C
Cores -> 53-56 C
GPU's -> 39 C

Ambient -> 85 F
CPU -> 43 F
Cores -> 55-60 C
GPU -> 42 C
 

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yep the 350/355 is the Liang DDC pump (just Swiftech #s) Before everyone was talking about the D5 so thats why I mentioned it.

Those temps seem too high to me too. There seems to be a bit too much rad as well.(a double and triple) Seems like a triple would be plenty.

I am no expert in H20 (prefer air cooling) but I tried the full coverage GPU blocks and they ran hotter than the blocks like the Swiftech MCW60 and Koolance GPU 180/200s.
 
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I wonder if that is true.. Full Coverage is hotter then going with Universal... I can see it might be since the water has to move along the whole card... Hmmm..
 

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to me the first prob with full coverage is because its a long surface of the video card the chances of the card being flat is impossible.
So contact is gonna be poor, you would need that thick tape to bridge the gap, but it dosent work all that well.
The next prob is the big cooler basically traps heat in from all the other parts that arent making contact with the cooler. Where as a small cooler allows airflow to cool the whole surface.

I tried a DD full coverage block before and than replaced it with a maze4 and the temps were like 7 or 8C cooler with the modded maze4.

I wonder if that is true.. Full Coverage is hotter then going with Universal... I can see it might be since the water has to move along the whole card... Hmmm..
I am way too old to waste time lying to you..:twitch:
 
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oh MK, i'm not saying that your lying to me.. but I was wondering if others thought of it as being the same or what not.... But, I was thinking the same way as getting the GFX 2 combo

I don't think I'd ever think you'd lie to me.. Or anyone.. :toast:
 

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I don't think I'd ever think you'd lie to me.. Or anyone.. :toast:
I wouldnt go that far :laugh:

I really like how Dtek made the fins go the proper way for airflow to cool them. It is simple (just 1 plate) to cool all the stuff, but its kind of like how I was talking about before (it traps heat inside pockets.) If you used individual heatsinks air blowing over the top would cool the whole cards surface.
 
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Hows this!? I don't think you would lie about Computer parts... lol :toast:

But, a 8c drop from full to uni.. That's sweet
 

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Closer to the truth....;)

The point was (sometimes I have a hard time explaining myself) using H20 to cool the GPU and good airflow (that means the heat needs to be directed out of the case, not just swirled around or trapped underneath) will be the best solution.

One thing I do also is I epoxy the heatsinks on (dont like tape)
http://www.arcticsilver.com/arctic_silver_thermal_adhesive.htm
 
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Yeah, I get what your saying.. and since I went water, I won't put my side panel back on.. Just don't see a need to... I will think about grabbing that if, or when I do buy the GFX 2...
 

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yep the 350/355 is the Liang DDC pump (just Swiftech #s) Before everyone was talking about the D5 so thats why I mentioned it.

Those temps seem too high to me too. There seems to be a bit too much rad as well.(a double and triple) Seems like a triple would be plenty.

I am no expert in H20 (prefer air cooling) but I tried the full coverage GPU blocks and they ran hotter than the blocks like the Swiftech MCW60 and Koolance GPU 180/200s.
Could this be one of my problems???

Because the inside of my case is really cramped I have both radz outside the case, and I have one run of tubing going from almost the bottom of the case, all the up to the top to the second rad. The water is moving quickly still, but I wonder if the long runs could be causing that??

Im using probably 5 to 6 feet of 1/2 tube in the case, and I have been thinking thats my problem lately.

I used to have a MCW60 on the card, and it was great temps and it added almost no heat to the loop, but this full cover block is BAD, and with 2 its been horrible!

When I pull this card tonight Im gonna try and re-route as much tube as possible to shorten it up some. Having both radiators doesnt bother me much, as it can only help the cooling. At some point it might do nothing, but it cant hurt right?

When I buy my coolant today, what kind should I go with, I have always used Fluid-XP, anyone have any better recomendations?
 
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I just have distilled water and thinking of getting a dye bomb.. a little cheaper in the wallet... but, that is just me.
 

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I just have distilled water and thinking of getting a dye bomb.. a little cheaper in the wallet... but, that is just me.
the last time I used some fluid-xp, but that was only to get the blood red. Before then I have always used fesser dyes and distilled. Im thinkin of just going back to that.......
 

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Location
TX, USA
Processor Intel i7 4770K
Motherboard Asrock
Cooling Water
Memory Team Xtreem LV 16GB (2x8GB)
Video Card(s) EK Full WB HD7970
Display(s) CROSSOVER 27Q LED-P 27"
Case Danger Den Torture Rack
Audio Device(s) Onboard
Power Supply CORSAIR Professional Series Gold AX1200
Software W 10 Pro