Need to upgrade parts of my current build. Asking for advises.

[winterwonderland]

Youi could take a look at the Asrock Fatal1ty B450 Gaming K4 and Asrock B450 Pro4.
I haven't done any research on those but I do know they both have decent VRMs.
So I'd recommend you check reviews of them to see how well (or not) they were rated.

And possibly the Gigabyte B450 Aorus Elite, which again I have NOT researched at all.

Those were well enough my budget, but by the looks of reviews and specs, it doesn't quite match up to the likes of B450 Tomahawk Max and Strix B450-F Gaming that you've previously listed, which are both nicely within my budget line. So yeah, it will most likely be either of those 2... but which one, that is what i need to decide on, but there's still time. I am not upgrading until END of november...

some 1660 super leaks show it's worth waiting for,just like 5500xt

if this ends up 10% faster at same/reduced price it's gonna be really good for the money.

may wanna wait for 5600xt too,might be an absolute price/performance killer,though if you're looking for a card for streaming turing might be better thanks to its very good encoder.


@minstreless list a couple of b450 boards that are within your budget,we'll pcik the best one.


god damn this build is turning out to be really nice for the money.
2700x and 1660 super are gonna do a fantastic job for 1080p streaming both for now and well into the future and it won't cost you that much.

Wohaa! That 1660 Super sounds like a rock solid deal, for sure. Especially if it will end up costing about the same as the 1660 cards you have previously mentioned.

When it comes to the B450 mobos, i can afford B450 Tomahawk Max and Strix B450-F Gaming. Not sure if there are other mobos that cost the same or are in the same class, but according to @NoJuan999 they seem to be pretty nice with good specs and that will work well with the 2700X.

Yes, i believe it is starting to look like a proper build that is well within my budget. THANKS a bunch for them advises!

 

[holyprof]

I found this thread a bit late, but here's my advice:
Stay away from X470 MSI motherboards. My MSI X470 Gaming Plus was pretty expensive compared to MSI's B450 but .... the B450's BIOS got updated and my X470 didn't.
Also, at that (low) RAM speed, my guess is that benchmarks you see online using 3200 MT/s or higher frequency RAM, will not be very precise for your DDR4-2166. I guess the Zen2 (Ryzen 3600 or 3700X) will benefit from their enormous cache memory even more when using slow RAM. So I would prefer the 3600 instead of the 2700X - check https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-3600/22.html
the 3600 beats or ties with the 2700X while consuming less energy.

 

[winterwonderland]

I found this thread a bit late, but here's my advice:
Stay away from X470 MSI motherboards. My MSI X470 Gaming Plus was pretty expensive compared to MSI's B450 but .... the B450's BIOS got updated and my X470 didn't.
Also, at that (low) RAM speed, my guess is that benchmarks you see online using 3200 MT/s or higher frequency RAM, will not be very precise for your DDR4-2166. I guess the Zen2 (Ryzen 3600 or 3700X) will benefit from their enormous cache memory even more when using slow RAM. So I would prefer the 3600 instead of the 2700X - check https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-ryzen-5-3600/22.html
the 3600 beats or ties with the 2700X while consuming less energy.

Interesting, but yeah, I am quite certain that i will go for the B450-F Gaming mobo.

Here is another question: WHAT would be a step UP from Ryzen R7 2700X or R5 3600. Would that be R7 3700X, perhaps? If so, how would the 3700X work with the B450-F Gaming mobo? I am asking because I might be able to put more more into the CPU... And what about the GPU? What would be the next step after the 1660 Super? Any inputs on those Q's @NoJuan999 and @cucker tarlson ?

 

[cucker tarlson]

3700x,but not worth it for what you need it for.IMO when it comes to Ryzen 3000 either go 3600 or 3900.
5700 or Rtx 2060 would be a step up from 1660 super but the current card will do more than fine,buy that for now,upgrade once NVIDIA/amd next gen drops and sees price cuts.

 

[winterwonderland]

3700x,but not worth it for what you need it for.IMO when it comes to Ryzen 3000 either go 3600 or 3900.
5700 or Rtx 2060 would be a step up from 1660 super but the current card will do more than fine,buy that for now,upgrade once NVIDIA/amd next gen drops and sees price cuts.

Ah, i understand. How big of a difference is 3600 vs 2700X and 3900 vs 2700X? Just wondering, just in case i'd somehow afford the 3900.

 

[cucker tarlson]

Ah, i understand. How big of a difference is 3600 vs 2700X and 3900 vs 2700X? Just wondering, just in case i'd somehow afford the 3900.

it's relative to what you need it for.
I'd choose 2700x over 3600 in your case,good enough for 60 fps and more cores/threads equals lower load for smooth streaming.For myself I'd go with 3600-better single core performance and high speed ram tolerance for high refresh rate gaming.

3900x is a great cpu if you can find it at msrp and you run something that 24 threads can do better than 16.In your case 2700x is just too good of a deal.It's 1/3rd the price of 3900x and you won't feel the difference most likely.

upgrade your cpu when you need to,,that 2700x will last you for quite some time.You're going from 4c/4t to 8c/16t,multitasking is going to feel ridiculously smooth with 2700x already.

get faster memory too.3200 c16 is the best bang for the buck ram atm,that 2133 is just miserable paired with modern cpus.might take aways as much as 20% from 2700x's performance at times compared to 3200 c16.

btw I found your other thread looking for a monitor,seems like you're looking at 1440p options.depending on what you'll be playing that 1660 super may do fine in a lot of games but fall short if you're targeting ultra in some of the more demanding games.may wanna consider 2060/2060 super.gotta know what you'll be playing to determine.

here's a 2700x with 1660ti at 1440p

 

[winterwonderland]

Ahh, i see. Yeah, for me, the problem seems to be that i cannot multitask with my current specs. Sometimes, it takes too long to load flash-powered sites if i have too many tabs/browsers open while i.e watching some youtube+streams. So that part MUST be heavily improved with the upgrades i am going to do. But yeah, that 3900 seems to be a tad bit over the top for me, i guess. So far, that 2800X seems to be the best buy for me, i guess.

Mobo seems to be decided, more or less, as that B450-F Ga0ming seems to be the most proper choice for me. But out of curiosity, what would be an upgrade to the B450-F Gaming? Hmm...

As for the memory, there i believe i can fire it up a notch. Currently, i have set my mind for @NoJuan999's suggestion of G.Skill Ripjaws V Black DDR4 3200MHz 2x8GB... but... will it be worth it to opt for the 3600MHz version of the same model or would it be useless for my purposes?

 

[cucker tarlson]

3600mhz ram is not possible for 2700x in the first place.

 

[winterwonderland]

3600mhz ram is not possible for 2700x in the first place.

Gee... how about if i'd do SOME reasearch first. :/ Saw it after i posted it. My bad.

EDIT: Didn't see you updated your previous reply, man. Thanks.

 

[(*^^*)]

MSI B450 GAMING PLUS ATX → BIOS ROM 128MB
MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX ATX → BIOS ROM 256MB
MSI B450 GAMING PLUS MAX ATX may be an option in terms of price if you don't care about the function.
It can be supported by BIOS update when it is changed to Ryzen 3000 in the future. In addition, you can update the BIOS with FLASH BIOS.

 

[NoJuan999]

Mobo seems to be decided, more or less, as that B450-F Ga0ming seems to be the most proper choice for me. But out of curiosity, what would be an upgrade to the B450-F Gaming? Hmm...

Asus ROG Strix X470-F Gaming is a definite Upgrade from a ROG Strix B450-F.

3700x,but not worth it for what you need it for.IMO when it comes to Ryzen 3000 either go 3600 or 3900.
5700 or Rtx 2060 would be a step up from 1660 super but the current card will do more than fine,buy that for now,upgrade once NVIDIA/amd next gen drops and sees price cuts.

I agree, I would get the 2700x for now and in a few years upgrade to a 3700x or even a 3900x.
Same with the 1660 Ti, for what you are going to be doing it will work very well at 1080p.
If you want to play games at 1440p though, I'd get a 5700 XT or a 2060

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GTX 1660 Ti vs RX 5700 XT Game Performance Benchmarks (i7-8700K vs i7-8700K) - GPUCheck United States / USA

GTX 1660 Ti versus RX 5700 XT performance comparison. Compare graphics card gaming performance in 49 games and in 1080p, 1440p, and 4K at Ultra, High, Medium, and Low quality settings. Compare specifications, price, power, temperature, and CPU bottlenecks.

www.gpucheck.com

 

[winterwonderland]

Asus ROG Strix X470-F Gaming is a definite Upgrade from a ROG Strix B450-F.


I agree, I would get the 2700x for now and in a few years upgrade to a 3700x or even a 3900x.
Same with the 1660 Ti, for what you are going to be doing it will work very well at 1080p.
If you want to play games at 1440p though, I'd get a 5700 XT or a 2060

Nvidia GeForce GTX 1660 Ti vs. GeForce RTX 2060: Which Mainstream GPU to Buy?

In the GeForce GTX 1660 Ti, Nvidia has released its first long-awaited update to its venerable mainstream GeForce GTX line. But is this card worth buying, stacked up against Nvidia's own, slightly costlier GeForce RTX 2060?

www.pcmag.com

GTX 1660 Ti vs RX 5700 XT Game Performance Benchmarks (i7-8700K vs i7-8700K) - GPUCheck United States / USA

GTX 1660 Ti versus RX 5700 XT performance comparison. Compare graphics card gaming performance in 49 games and in 1080p, 1440p, and 4K at Ultra, High, Medium, and Low quality settings. Compare specifications, price, power, temperature, and CPU bottlenecks.

www.gpucheck.com

I tried to look at X470-F Gaming, but... it has weaker specs than B450-F, no? Ok, more USB-ports but no HDMI 2.0b. What else are the differences since you say it's definite upgrade? Would X570-F Gaming be the upgrade after that, hmm? The question would be if i should add more money to the mobo, gpu or cpu... heh.

Yeah, I was planning to do SOME 1440p gaming, but which 2060 and 5700 XT should i go for as there are sooo many choices...

I am simply lining up possible upgrades from the original setup that you guys have suggested to me, in case my budget suddenly changes for the better.

Thanks for the suggestions.

 

[NoJuan999]

The X470-F has much better VRMs so it can run a 3900x better than my B450-F would.
And I would Not even install a 3950x on my board but the X470-F would handle it just fine.
That is what I meant by it being an upgrade from my board.

As for the 2060's and 5700 XT's I'd have to read some reviews before I could recommend any specifically.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

I tried to look at X470-F Gaming, but... it has weaker specs than B450-F, no? Ok, more USB-ports but no HDMI 2.0b. What else are the differences since you say it's definite upgrade? Would X570-F Gaming be the upgrade after that, hmm? The question would be if i should add more money to the mobo, gpu or cpu... heh.

Yeah, I was planning to do SOME 1440p gaming, but which 2060 and 5700 XT should i go for as there are sooo many choices...

I am simply lining up possible upgrades from the original setup that you guys have suggested to me, in case my budget suddenly changes for the better.

Thanks for the suggestions.

You do not need hdmi 2b on the motherboard ,the graphics card can handle that ,the 470 is a better motherboard.
For longevity I would buy a x570 and cheapen out on a second hand ryzen so as to buy a higher core cpu then you can now in a year for less money.
Go with a sapphire rx5700 Xt nitro+ or a sapphire rx5700 pulse as a budget option.

 

[winterwonderland]

The X470-F has much better VRMs so it can run a 3900x better than my B450-F would.
And I would Not even install a 3950x on my board but the X470-F would handle it just fine.
That is what I meant by it being an upgrade from my board.

As for the 2060's and 5700 XT's I'd have to read some reviews before I could recommend any specifically.

Ah, I understand. So... I would probably be better off by just upping the mobo to a X570-F Gaming then to get all i need for the longevity purposes, huh? It's double the price of B450-F Gaming, though, but i believe it'd benefit me in the long run, in case i'd again would want an upgrade. heh.

Yes, i will also dive into reviews myself to see which one to opt for.

You do not need hdmi 2b on the motherboard ,the graphics card can handle that ,the 470 is a better motherboard.
For longevity I would buy a x570 and cheapen out on a second hand ryzen so as to buy a higher core cpu then you can now in a year for less money.
Go with a sapphire rx5700 Xt nitro+ or a sapphire rx5700 pulse as a budget option.

Ahh, i see. didn't know that. my bad.

Yes, that's exactly what i was thinking as well... the mobo would allow me to upgrade in the long run. Yes, perhaps 5 years from now, we'll have DDR5 RAM in place and such, but yeh... that's future, i guess. I would still be fine with X570-F Gaming even few years from now, i am sure.

Nice GPUs! 5700 Pulse is $100 cheaper for me, but the 5700 XT Nitro seems to be more powerful... Thanks for the alternatives.

BTW, fellas! Shouldn't i upgrade my PSU as well then, huh? Isn't 550W -too- little for all the work i'll be doing, huh? Remember, my setup is NOT for gaming only, but multi-tasking, heavy streaming, browsing, picture + video editing and some casual non-FPS gaming.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Ah, I understand. So... I would probably be better off by just upping the mobo to a X570-F Gaming then to get all i need for the longevity purposes, huh? It's double the price of B450-F Gaming, though, but i believe it'd benefit me in the long run, in case i'd again would want an upgrade. heh.

Yes, i will also dive into reviews myself to see which one to opt for.



Ahh, i see. didn't know that. my bad.

Yes, that's exactly what i was thinking as well... the mobo would allow me to upgrade in the long run. Yes, perhaps 5 years from now, we'll have DDR5 RAM in place and such, but yeh... that's future, i guess. I would still be fine with X570-F Gaming even few years from now, i am sure.

Nice GPUs! 5700 Pulse is $100 cheaper for me, but the 5700 XT Nitro seems to be more powerful... Thanks for the alternatives.

BTW, fellas! Shouldn't i upgrade my PSU as well then, huh? Isn't 550W -too- little for all the work i'll be doing, huh? Remember, my setup is NOT for gaming only, but multi-tasking, heavy streaming, browsing, picture + video editing and some casual non-FPS gaming.

To me the x570 could see out four years , i would pick up a cheap 2600,2700/3600 ,all good enough for now but what's coming should eclipse in two years by which time your x570 purchase Could pay offfor a highcore ryzen 4000 maybe 5000?.
Your Psu would be fine with my suggestion , if you're going high core And th 5700Xt i would consider a good 650/750 Psu from seasonic or evga though I like Corsair personally on the Psu front.

In five years PC's will require fully upgrading I would imagine/hope.

See my specs and you will see im following my plan, i started on a 2600 but I'll get a 32 core eventually..

 

[winterwonderland]

Okay fellas! I have finally made a decision on what i will be getting. These are the upgrades i will go for:
- Asus X570-F Gaming (IF B550-F Gaming manages to come out before i buy the upgrades, i'll probably go for that one, but for now, X570 is my choice)
- R7 3700X (3900X got both too overpowered AND over-the-top in terms of price for me, so i went for 3700X. which will go very well with the mobo, my budget and my purposes)
- G.Skill Ripjaws Black V 3600MHz 2x8gb (they're only $30 more than the 3200... it seems to go well with the rest of the system)
- Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ 2xHDMI 2xDP 8GB (this is the ONLY part i am a LITTLE bit unsure of.... it's gotten excellent reviews and such, but i cannot determine how "quiet" it really is... say, compared to my current gpu... any thoughts on that?)
- Adata XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB (compared to the SSD i have now, this should be doing the job both better and faster, i take it...)
- LG 32GK850F (yes, i even managed to get myself a new monitor as well...)

So. Any inputs on the set, hmm? I guess that it looks more than good now, right?

 

[holyprof]

Okay fellas! I have finally made a decision on what i will be getting. These are the upgrades i will go for:
- Asus X570-F Gaming (IF B550-F Gaming manages to come out before i buy the upgrades, i'll probably go for that one, but for now, X570 is my choice)
- R7 3700X (3900X got both too overpowered AND over-the-top in terms of price for me, so i went for 3700X. which will go very well with the mobo, my budget and my purposes)
- G.Skill Ripjaws Black V 3600MHz 2x8gb (they're only $30 more than the 3200... it seems to go well with the rest of the system)
- Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ 2xHDMI 2xDP 8GB (this is the ONLY part i am a LITTLE bit unsure of.... it's gotten excellent reviews and such, but i cannot determine how "quiet" it really is... say, compared to my current gpu... any thoughts on that?)
- Adata XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB (compared to the SSD i have now, this should be doing the job both better and faster, i take it...)
- LG 32GK850F (yes, i even managed to get myself a new monitor as well...)

So. Any inputs on the set, hmm? I guess that it looks more than good now, right?

This build seems nice and balanced. I just have one remark.

You are questioning about GPU's noise. That only matters if you plan to replace the stock AMD cooler that comes with the 3700X. In my PC, it makes considerably more noise than all other fans joined + GPU water pump. I don't see a CPU cooler on your list so I presume you will be using the (awesomely looking, barely adequate thermal performance) AMD Wraith Prism RGB. I have that same on my current PC (cooling the 3700X), while my previous one had a $30 Arctic cooler for my i5-4690K and it was inaudible in heaviest games. To actually hear it, I needed to use Prime95 or video encoding software.

TL;DR: don't worry about GPU noise unless using a good aftermarket heatsink on the 3700X.

 

[NoJuan999]

I Like it !!!
If I ever decide to get an X570 board it will most likely be that Asus ROG Strix X570-F.

PS
If you are looking for a good cooler at a reasonable price, I have the Arctic 33 eSports Edition cooler on my 3700x and it works great and is pretty quiet.
The newer Arctic 34 eSports Duo has better fans so it should work slightly better than mine does.

Freezer 34 eSports DUO | Tower CPU Cooler with BioniX P-Series Fans in Push-Pull-Configuration for AMD / Intel CPU | ARCTIC

The ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports is a powerful Tower CPU Cooler with a 120 mm BioniX P-fan. Compatible with Intel and AMD sockets.

www.arctic.ac

 

[AlienIsGOD]

The adata ssd will be awesome, I own the 512gb one and I'm very happy / impressed with it

 

[cucker tarlson]

Okay fellas! I have finally made a decision on what i will be getting. These are the upgrades i will go for:
- Asus X570-F Gaming (IF B550-F Gaming manages to come out before i buy the upgrades, i'll probably go for that one, but for now, X570 is my choice)
- R7 3700X (3900X got both too overpowered AND over-the-top in terms of price for me, so i went for 3700X. which will go very well with the mobo, my budget and my purposes)
- G.Skill Ripjaws Black V 3600MHz 2x8gb (they're only $30 more than the 3200... it seems to go well with the rest of the system)
- Sapphire Radeon RX 5700 XT Nitro+ 2xHDMI 2xDP 8GB (this is the ONLY part i am a LITTLE bit unsure of.... it's gotten excellent reviews and such, but i cannot determine how "quiet" it really is... say, compared to my current gpu... any thoughts on that?)
- Adata XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB (compared to the SSD i have now, this should be doing the job both better and faster, i take it...)
- LG 32GK850F (yes, i even managed to get myself a new monitor as well...)

So. Any inputs on the set, hmm? I guess that it looks more than good now, right?

don't worry about the nitro card,it'll be quiet.
the 3700x needs a custom cooler or it'll be be hot and loud.

also,check the price of cs3030,if it's same as 8200 then go for the pny.

you've stretched the budget quite a lot.
imo should've sticked with 2700x and upgrade to ryzen 4000,same as the gpu,go with rx5500/1660 and upgrade to rdna2 (rx6000) or nvidia 7nm once they've seen price cuts in 2021.

as for the mobo,you can get a quality x370 taichi board much,much cheaper,and the only feature it'll be missing is pci-e 4.0 while the build quality and features are top tier level.

 

[Vayra86]

Ah, i understand. How big of a difference is 3600 vs 2700X and 3900 vs 2700X? Just wondering, just in case i'd somehow afford the 3900.

Don't overdo the CPU if you're casually gaming. If you are not chasing high refresh, a cheap Ryzen 5 1st gen will already carry you most of the way for 60 FPS. Not that you should buy one, but just so you get a relative idea.

For any other (heavy) workloads and multi tasking, any 6 core or better CPU will be sufficient, especially if it has SMT. Like @cucker tarlson pointed out a few posts back, put that budget to GPU, storage, other quality of life stuff first. Also, its worth spending a bit for mobo featureset or quality. Not too much though.

And yes, don't keep stretching the budget. The fun is (for me at least, I'm Dutch, so we're like that I guess) to squeeze max perf in a fixed budget. Get a reasonable number and go for it. The build you posted up there can do with a bit of skinning.

 

[winterwonderland]

WOW! Talk about this thread becoming alive again!

Stand by for a lot of writing.

This build seems nice and balanced. I just have one remark.

You are questioning about GPU's noise. That only matters if you plan to replace the stock AMD cooler that comes with the 3700X. In my PC, it makes considerably more noise than all other fans joined + GPU water pump. I don't see a CPU cooler on your list so I presume you will be using the (awesomely looking, barely adequate thermal performance) AMD Wraith Prism RGB. I have that same on my current PC (cooling the 3700X), while my previous one had a $30 Arctic cooler for my i5-4690K and it was inaudible in heaviest games. To actually hear it, I needed to use Prime95 or video encoding software.

TL;DR: don't worry about GPU noise unless using a good aftermarket heatsink on the 3700X.

Actually, i believe i DID mention a cooler somewhere, but easy to have missed out on it. anyway, it was a Noctua NH-D15. However, it costs DOUBLE the price than the mentioned Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo . How're those coolers when compared to each other?

Thanks for the input.

I Like it !!!
If I ever decide to get an X570 board it will most likely be that Asus ROG Strix X570-F.

PS
If you are looking for a good cooler at a reasonable price, I have the Arctic 33 eSports Edition cooler on my 3700x and it works great and is pretty quiet.
The newer Arctic 34 eSports Duo has better fans so it should work slightly better than mine does.

Freezer 34 eSports DUO | Tower CPU Cooler with BioniX P-Series Fans in Push-Pull-Configuration for AMD / Intel CPU | ARCTIC

The ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports is a powerful Tower CPU Cooler with a 120 mm BioniX P-fan. Compatible with Intel and AMD sockets.

www.arctic.ac

I am glad it's getting somewhat nice, yes. Much appreciated for all your inputs and effort answering my Q's along the way, man. MUCH, much appreciated! And thanks to you and @cucker tarlson - i will for the very first time try AMD!

As i mentioned above, how will the Arctic-cooler (the Duo) be compared to the D15? The e34 eSports Duo is about $40~ CHEAPER than the mentioned Noctua NH-D15.... And why is

The adata ssd will be awesome, I own the 512gb one and I'm very happy / impressed with it

Yes, it was THE ssd that i read great things about. Was a no-brainer that, i guess. First i will try out an internal ssd, hehe. Any measurement on how big the difference is from that M.2 to the one i already have? (pardon for lacking specific details about the ssd i have, but that's all i could find about it since it was included with my current setup listed in my specs...)

don't worry about the nitro card,it'll be quiet.
the 3700x needs a custom cooler or it'll be be hot and loud.

also,check the price of cs3030,if it's same as 8200 then go for the pny.

you've stretched the budget quite a lot.
imo should've sticked with 2700x and upgrade to ryzen 4000,same as the gpu,go with rx5500/1660 and upgrade to rdna2 (rx6000) or nvidia 7nm once they've seen price cuts in 2021.

as for the mobo,you can get a quality x370 taichi board much,much cheaper,and the only feature it'll be missing is pci-e 4.0 while the build quality and features are top tier level.

Ok, i'll be 'cool' about it... As i mentioned above; the D15 should do the job nicely, right?

Regarding the SSD, the PNY M.2 1TB is actually $20 CHEAPER than the Adata M.2 i listed.... what's the difference between those 2? Seem to have same write/read speed... different TBW or?

Yes, i found ways to stretch out the budget quite a lot, indeed. The thing is that i need to order the stuff on Black Friday, which is why i need to have a plan for it now. And since i will not be doing hardcore gaming or so, i believe that with the stuff i will buy now, it will be quite upgrade-friendly in the future (around 2021-2023), don't you reckon so as well?

Don't overdo the CPU if you're casually gaming. If you are not chasing high refresh, a cheap Ryzen 5 1st gen will already carry you most of the way for 60 FPS. Not that you should buy one, but just so you get a relative idea.

For any other (heavy) workloads and multi tasking, any 6 core or better CPU will be sufficient, especially if it has SMT. Like @cucker tarlson pointed out a few posts back, put that budget to GPU, storage, other quality of life stuff first. Also, its worth spending a bit for mobo featureset or quality. Not too much though.

And yes, don't keep stretching the budget. The fun is (for me at least, I'm Dutch, so we're like that I guess) to squeeze max perf in a fixed budget. Get a reasonable number and go for it. The build you posted up there can do with a bit of skinning.

Yes, that's what i've understood as well throughout this thread; get what i need and don't overdo TOO much. but as things are right now, it seems that i could afford the 3700X after all, which i believe will be more than good enough for my purposes and work. Initially, this was going to be my setup:
Ryzen 2700X
Asus B450-F Gaming
G.Skill Black V 3200 2x8gb
GPU i wasn't so sure of as the prices were so different
Adata M.2 1tb

That was my initial set of stuff to buy that would've covered my initial budget (listed in OP), but yeah, i managed to scrap together more money for some of the parts.

However, you mentioned skinning... How could i "adjust" the setup so it'd be cheaper and still have high performance to my purposes? Naturally, i am willing to listen to options and ideas, especially since i will not be buying ANYTHING until Black Friday, which is end of november. So yeah, there's still good time to "optimize" it all.

So, to wrap it up a little: So far, the list seems to be like this:
- CPU and Mobo: currently im set for 3700X, which would go well with X570-F Gaming (and the upcoming B550-F Gaming?), but if i would choose the 2700X, i cannot go for the X570-F Gaming, or?
- GPU: currently im set to go for the 5700 XT Nitro+, which is definitely the most costly item on the list. But again; here i can find alternatives to go for, such as Powercolor 5700 XT Red Dragon 3xDP 8GB or Sapphire Pulse 5700 XT (they're both about $50 cheaper than the Nitro+). Or other alternatives.
- Memory: currently im set for G.Skill V Black 3600 2x8gb, but that's if i will go for the 3700X + X570-F Gaming-set. I believe the 3200 of the same memory model will not work together with 2700X + B450-F Gaming, or?
- SSD: If that PNY 1tb ssd that cucker mentioned is better than the Adata ssd, i will probably go for that one, so that's nailed
- CPU cooler: currently not decided since Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo is about $40 cheaper than the D15....

So. Any thoughts on what i've mentioned so far, you lot?

 

[cucker tarlson]

WOW! Talk about this thread becoming alive again!

Stand by for a lot of writing.



Actually, i believe i DID mention a cooler somewhere, but easy to have missed out on it. anyway, it was a Noctua NH-D15. However, it costs DOUBLE the price than the mentioned Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo . How're those coolers when compared to each other?

Thanks for the input.



I am glad it's getting somewhat nice, yes. Much appreciated for all your inputs and effort answering my Q's along the way, man. MUCH, much appreciated! And thanks to you and @cucker tarlson - i will for the very first time try AMD!

As i mentioned above, how will the Arctic-cooler (the Duo) be compared to the D15? The e34 eSports Duo is about $40~ CHEAPER than the mentioned Noctua NH-D15.... And why is



Yes, it was THE ssd that i read great things about. Was a no-brainer that, i guess. First i will try out an internal ssd, hehe. Any measurement on how big the difference is from that M.2 to the one i already have? (pardon for lacking specific details about the ssd i have, but that's all i could find about it since it was included with my current setup listed in my specs...)



Ok, i'll be 'cool' about it... As i mentioned above; the D15 should do the job nicely, right?

Regarding the SSD, the PNY M.2 1TB is actually $20 CHEAPER than the Adata M.2 i listed.... what's the difference between those 2? Seem to have same write/read speed... different TBW or?

Yes, i found ways to stretch out the budget quite a lot, indeed. The thing is that i need to order the stuff on Black Friday, which is why i need to have a plan for it now. And since i will not be doing hardcore gaming or so, i believe that with the stuff i will buy now, it will be quite upgrade-friendly in the future (around 2021-2023), don't you reckon so as well?



Yes, that's what i've understood as well throughout this thread; get what i need and don't overdo TOO much. but as things are right now, it seems that i could afford the 3700X after all, which i believe will be more than good enough for my purposes and work. Initially, this was going to be my setup:
Ryzen 2700X
Asus B450-F Gaming
G.Skill Black V 3200 2x8gb
GPU i wasn't so sure of as the prices were so different
Adata M.2 1tb

That was my initial set of stuff to buy that would've covered my initial budget (listed in OP), but yeah, i managed to scrap together more money for some of the parts.

However, you mentioned skinning... How could i "adjust" the setup so it'd be cheaper and still have high performance to my purposes? Naturally, i am willing to listen to options and ideas, especially since i will not be buying ANYTHING until Black Friday, which is end of november. So yeah, there's still good time to "optimize" it all.

So, to wrap it up a little: So far, the list seems to be like this:
- CPU and Mobo: currently im set for 3700X, which would go well with X570-F Gaming (and the upcoming B550-F Gaming?), but if i would choose the 2700X, i cannot go for the X570-F Gaming, or?
- GPU: currently im set to go for the 5700 XT Nitro+, which is definitely the most costly item on the list. But again; here i can find alternatives to go for, such as Powercolor 5700 XT Red Dragon 3xDP 8GB or Sapphire Pulse 5700 XT (they're both about $50 cheaper than the Nitro+). Or other alternatives.
- Memory: currently im set for G.Skill V Black 3600 2x8gb, but that's if i will go for the 3700X + X570-F Gaming-set. I believe the 3200 of the same memory model will not work together with 2700X + B450-F Gaming, or?
- SSD: If that PNY 1tb ssd that cucker mentioned is better than the Adata ssd, i will probably go for that one, so that's nailed
- CPU cooler: currently not decided since Arctic Freezer 34 eSports Duo is about $40 cheaper than the D15....

So. Any thoughts on what i've mentioned so far, you lot?

cs3030 bas better nand memory.toshiba's drives use micron's memory which is trash by today's standards imo,they're nice drives tho cause caching works very well.once the buffer runs out it can't keep up with v-nand/bics drives tho

d15 is nice,any dual tower will do great.

 

[NoJuan999]

The Noctua D15 is a Great cooler but the Arctic 34 eSports Duo would easily handle the 3700x.
I have my 3700x with PBO enabled and I use the Asus Performance Enhancer Level 3 (BIOS setting that uses PBO Tweaks by Asus and The Stilt).
My CPU idles at around 30c and maxes out around 62c after hours of gaming or encoding videos (my room temp is 21-22c).

If you plan on ever upgrading to a 3950x, I'd get the D15, but for the 3700x the Arctic works very well.